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Discussions:

RM, Louis-Philippe I, King of the French → Louis-Philippe of France, No consensus, 22 March 2010, discussion
RM, Louis-Philippe I, King of the French → Louis Philippe I, Moved, 29 June 2010, discussion
RM, Louis Philippe I → Louis Philippe I of France, Not moved, 31 July 2023, discussion

Relation to Charles X

How was Louis Philippe I related to Charles X? This article says they were cousins, but I don't think they were first cousins. There are a few webpages that say they were second cousins, but I don't think that's right either. It looks like they were both the great, great, great, great grandsons of Louis XIII (both through all-male lines). That makes them fifth cousins at least, and there are a couple webpages that say they were fifth cousins. That may be the answer. Although it's only a couple webpages that say that, and I don't know if they were more closely related in other ways. - 2603:9000:E408:4800:2CE3:A59B:4947:6A9B (talk) 23:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They were more closely related in other ways.

Louis XIII

Louis XIV

Johann Friedrich
Duke of Brunswick

Philippe
Duke of Orléans

Louis Alexandre
Count of Toulouse

Louise Françoise

Françoise Marie

Philippe
Duke of Orléans

Louis
Dauphin

Marie Adélaïde

Francesco Maria
Duke of Modena

Charlotte Aglaé

Louise Élisabeth

Louis
Duke of Orléans

Louis XV

Maria Josepha

Marie Thérèse

Louis Jean
Duke of Penthièvre

Louise Henriette

Louis Philippe
Duke of Orléans

Louis
Dauphin

Marie Josèphe

Louise Marie Adélaïde

Louis Philippe
Duke of Orléans

Charles X

Louis Philippe I

I make it that their closest relationship was third cousins once removed (through two different lines). Opera hat (talk) 15:44, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphen?

Is there a reason for the missing hyphen in the name, compared to the french spelling (Louis-Philippe)? MeAmME (talk) 16:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage

The article says that Louis Philippe's father had a hand in the execution of Marie Antoinette, but that is incorrect. His father was a regicide and voted for the death of Louis XVI, but he was rounded up at the same time that Marie Antoinette was put on trial, and he survived her for only a few weeks. 169.253.162.2 (talk) 22:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Charles the Bald which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 12:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"The Spanish Renunciation"

The lead section contains a reference (added here in 2022) to "the Spanish renunciation" with a link to "Phillip V of Spain". As it's currently worded, the implication seems to be that Charles X abdicated because of the July Revolution and the Peace of Utrecht. I think it's actually trying to say that Louis Philippe's accession was (at least in part) a result of the ineligibility of Phillip V's descendants due to the Peace of Utrecht.

Frankly, I don't know much about this stuff. As it stands, the addition is confusing. Should it be there? Should it be reworded? Does this article need to discuss the Peace of Utrecht? If so, how should it be handled? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 21:01, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think that's what it's trying to say but I've removed it because it's a red herring and unnecessarily confuses. There was no prospect of the Spanish Bourbons coming to the throne - they weren't stepped over because of the Utrecht renunciation. The Orleanists came to power as part of a bourgeois revolution. The legitimism of the line of succession wasn't really relevant - anyone who cared about it would have supported Charles X and his grandson. DeCausa (talk) 10:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs serious work

Can we try to get as many people as possible working on this article? This article has a lot of information already, but needs a lot of work. For example, look at the French and Portuguese versions of the article. I can’t do this alone, since I’m a fairly busy person. I’d like a decent amount of attention payed to this article, since I believe it is necessary for it to be cleaned up. Henry Berghoff (talk) 02:19, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]