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A fact from Love Is Embarrassing appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 September 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that while performing "Love Is Embarrassing", Olivia Rodrigo suffered an "embarassing" wardrobe malfunction?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Love Is Embarrassing.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that while performing "Love Is Embarrassing", Olivia Rodrigo suffered a wardrobe malfunction, which, according to her, was also "embarrassing"?

Source: People, Entertainment Weekly

ALT1: ... that Olivia Rodrigo wrote "Love Is Embarrassing" the day after she lay in bed replaying every embarrassing moment in her life and cringing at herself? Source: Billboard, Rolling Stone
ALT2: ... that Olivia Rodrigo decided to LIE on her album Guts even though her producer thought it was not a good idea? Source: Variety
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kanaria (musician)
Comment: ALT2 is a play on the song's initials "LIE" (Love Is Embarrassing). But I have kept the first two hooks as safe options.

Created by MaranoFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 69 past nominations.

N Ø 17:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral: - n
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article was nominated for DYK within 7 days of creation (counting calendar days). Article is more than 1,500 words in prose, with proper citations. Earwig picked up an "unlikely" copyright violation of 17.4%. QPQ is done. I would go with ALT0. In addition, in the third paragraph of "Composition" and the second and third paragraphs of "Critical reception" does not specify who these "critics" that were making the statements were, so it does seem promotional sometimes. lullabying (talk) 02:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both sentences were summary sentences in accordance with WP:RECEPTION. I have changed it to satisfy your concern with this edit though.--N Ø 03:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Clovermoss: could you help me get this promoted? After making the pretty serious accusation that the article is non-neutral, Lullaby has ignored multiple pings and a talk page message from me. I reject this categorization and generally consider this an FA-quality article. The hooks are superb in my opinion, and it is pretty frustrating to be made to jump through hoops on this when they are superior to a lot of others easily being promoted. There is literally nothing left to be done here.--N Ø 02:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- It has only been less than 24 hours since I first made the review and I also responded to your talk page message. No need for the hostility! Anyways, the edits seem to look good so I'll be passing it. lullabying (talk) 04:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Love Is Embarrassing/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: MaranoFan (talk · contribs) 11:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Medxvo (talk · contribs) 22:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Rodrigo wrote it with its producer, Dan Nigro. The song became available ..." → "Rodrigo wrote the song with its producer, Dan Nigro. It became available ..."
"Critics" → "Music critics"
"She included it ..." → "Rodrigo included the song ..."
"Rodrigo suffered a wardrobe malfunction while performing "Love Is Embarrassing" ..." → "She suffered a wardrobe malfunction while performing the song ..."
"The album was released in May 2021" → "Sour was released in May 2021"
"she revealed Guts's tracklist" → "she revealed Guts' tracklist"
Why some sentences in the composition part are in present tense, while the others in past tense?

Critical opinions could have changed since time of publishing so they are in the past tense. Whereas, sentences like "the song includes guitars" would be present tense as the studio recording has not changed.--N Ø 04:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for not clarifying this earlier, but I was mainly talking about the credits part, "Nigro played, Ray played, Stewart played, etc..." and I see that it's done now! Medxvo (talk) 06:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"one of Guts's "bops ..." → "one of Guts' "bops ..."
"Other artists it was compared to include ..." → "Other artists "Love Is Embarrassing" was compared to include ..."
"2013 song "Everything Is Embarrassing" ..." → "2013 single "Everything Is Embarrassing" ..."
"Jason Lipshutz described it as ..." → "Jason Lipshutz described "Love Is Embarrassing" as ..."
"Sheffield ranked "Love Is Embarrassing" as Rodrigo's 20th-best song in September 2023 and picked his favorite lyric: "You found a new version of me/And I damn near started World War 3". GQ included "Just watch as I crucify myself/ For some weird second string/ Loser who's not worth mentioning" in its list of the album's standout and "gutsiest" lyrics, and Nylon included it alongside "You found a new version of me and I damn near started World War III" in its list of Guts's most impeccable lyrics. Ragusa believed the former was an example of her sophisticated songwriting, highlighting the choice of the word "crucify" as immensely theatrical and the description of the crush as absolutely hilarious" → "In September 2023, Sheffield ranked "Love Is Embarrassing" as Rodrigo's 20th-best song, picking "You found a new version of me/And I damn near started World War 3" as his favorite lyric from the song. Nylon included the lyric alongside "Just watch as I crucify myself/ For some weird second string/ Loser who's not worth mentioning" in its list of Guts' most impeccable lyrics, with GQ including the latter in its list of the album's standout and "gutsiest" lyrics and Ragusa believing it was an example of her sophisticated songwriting, highlighting the choice of the word "crucify" as immensely theatrical and the description of the crush as absolutely hilarious". Any thoughts on this wording?
Ref 33 and 67; not archived

Everything else looks fine! This is a really well-written and well-sourced article. I will put it On hold for now; happy to pass once the issues are fixed or discussed. Medxvo (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the review, Medxvo! All done according to your suggestions. I have kept the sentence split for Ragusa's comment, though, since I felt the sentence was getting too long but switched to your order of wording.--N Ø 04:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks amazing now! @MaranoFan: Well done. I am going to ✓ Pass the article now, congratulations! If you have time, please consider reviewing Taylor Swift Productions, I would like to know your thoughts :) Medxvo (talk) 06:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]