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What a horror of an article to read

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This is full of terse, over-complex prose, that comes with uninvitingly large paragraphs. Any help in cleaning this article up would be appreciated. My name isnotdave (talk/contribs) 14:11, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note on POV tag

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The POV tag is more an indication that there is perhaps too much repetition of negative views; I am of the position that the article requires a bit of a trim down. My name isnotdave (talk/contribs) 07:04, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe some negative views in the article are related to some mentions of political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union but these views reflect real facts acknowledged by the World Psychiatric Association. The article also contains many very positive views including the mention that psychiatry in Russia has begun to be regulated by the Russian Mental Health Law since 1993 for the first time. Psychiatrick (talk) 12:46, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if the template is still needed -- are we hoping someone is going to come in and do some more trimming? Or add some positive items?
I might be part of the problem rather than part of the solution, because I have just added another negative item -- although my wording tends away from complexity and interpretations so maybe not such a bad thing -- and also another template. My template is simply noting that the lede currently appears to talk entirely about the positive changes in recent decades, and does not even mention the negative aspects that currently dominate the rest of the article. It's therefore an inadequate lede for the article in its current state. MPS1992 (talk) 17:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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This article is neither neutral, nor substantive.

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As far as I can tell, apart from some history of Soviet era politicization of Russian psychiatry, nothing is about the headings provided at all. There are few to jo specific facts about current Russian federal law. It's mostly a copy&paste job from Thomas Szasz/Scientology, etc, anti-psychiatry sites, which is clearly designed to de-medicalize the issue, like if I attached a flat Earth criticism to the Geology article. This is really the worse spot on Wikipedia, and it should really be almost entirely deleted. 24.60.211.69 (talk) 20:45, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]