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Sayyid

According to wikipedia, sayyid is an honourific title for those who have Alid blood through their father's side. I'm not sure what place it has on Wikipedia in terms of listing everyone who claims to be a sayyid, such as Musa al-Sadr. Opinions? ناهد/(Nåhed) _speak! 14:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In general, it doesn't belong here when used as an honorific, except when it is used in a direct quote. ← George^[talk] 13:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Title, not honorific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.42.187.53 (talk) 15:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It means you have Fatimid blood (not the dynasty, just from Fatima az-Zahra). It's an honourific. ناهد/(Nåhed) _speak! 15:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"King", "prince" and "duke" means you have noble blood. They are titles. "Sayyed" also means you have noble blood. It is also a title, not an honorific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.42.187.53 (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What "official ruling"? Also, King, Prince and Duke are political titles. You do not inherit them because you are the child of a duke, you have to be sworn in as the formal heir and you have property rights and responsibilities under a legal system. Princes are the sons of a king and must also be formally recognised. Any random by-blow of a king is not a prince. Sayyids, meanwhile, are people who claim to be Fatimids/Alids. I think half of Pakistan uses the term to describe themselves. Hence it is an honourific title - it has no special value, it just means you claim a bloodline. ناهد/(Nåhed) _speak! 16:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many princes, barons and counts -most of them- hold the title without having any official political responsibilities. Same with sayyed. Regardless, this issue is not covered by WP:MOSISLAM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.42.187.53 (talk) 16:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Relationship with Dr.Shariati

Please make note of the fact that Musa Sadr also led the funeral prayers for Dr. Ali Shariati when he "mysteriously" died of a "heart attack" in London, after escaping from Iran.

"The successful concerted effort resulting in securing the transfer of Shariati's body from London to Damascus, Syria, whereupon the renowned Imam Musa Sadr led the funeral prayers" - Source : 'Man and Islam: Dr. Ali Shariati' translated from the Persian by Dr. Fatollah Marjani.

Sayyed Musa and Sayyed Muhammad Baqer

Why is the relationship between Sayyed Aqa Musa and Ayatullah Sayyed Muhammad Baqer called a "distant cousin"?? How closer of a cousing can one get that FIRST? Sayyed Musa was the son of Saderddin, while Muhammad Baqer was the son of Heydar. Haydar and Sadredding were brothers!--82.45.249.105 (talk) 00:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Born, raised and educated in Iran

Ok, can certain individuals cease making what looks as disruptive edits by removing categories and changing ledes even though the article specifically states that he was both born and educated in Iran, with an inline ref? I've several more references now as well. Heck, even his father had already settled in Iran. I'm sure enough bypassing people are willing to assume WP:GF, but please bring it to the talk page if this issue has been playing for longer, or try to search for some references yourself. It'll solve things much more adequately. Thanks - LouisAragon (talk) 07:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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