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Khari bulbul is not endemic plant to Karabakh/Shusha

I am not experienced Wikipedia user, but I fixed error that mentions "plant grows only in Shusha" which is botanical misinformation. I edited the article, but somehow keeps reverted!

You haven't provided source. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 12:54, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided a source and changed wording accordingly. The source has a map that documents where samples of the flower were found and also studies it's growth in other areas. I don't know whether we should keep the legend of it only growing in Shusha or not. Kevo327 (talk) 23:56, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also I suggest that someone more knowledgeable about the geography of Azerbaijan adds the names of the specific areas where the flower grows from said source Kevo327 (talk) 23:58, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another source but needs translation: http://www.redbook.az/?options=project&id=Qafqaz%20qa%C5%9F%20s%C9%99hl%C9%99bi Kevo327 (talk) 00:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did provided source for it's distribution (Red book). There is also other books as well Zülfü E.Fərəcli (talk) 01:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At the end of this source the main distribution added in English too. I added that in the article before http://www.redbook.az/?options=project&id=Qafqaz%20qa%C5%9F%20s%C9%99hl%C9%99bi Zülfü E.Fərəcli (talk) 01:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moving page

If there are no objections, I will be moving the article to it's scientific name (while keeping and adding all relevant redirections and other stuff) as the geographic area of the article's subject surpasses Azerbaijan and has other native names in other countries. It is fairer for the article to be the scientific name and for it to include all the relevant local names and information artrivuted to it. Kevo327 (talk) 22:51, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. per WP:COMMONNAME. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 04:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CuriousGolden this name is only used in Azerbaijan and the flower also has native names in Georgian and Armenian. And it's "significance" of only growing in Azerbaijan has been debunked, Thus the previously existing rationale of keeping the article in it's Azerbaijani name is invalid. It would be more balanced for the article to be named by scientific name. Kevo327 (talk) 10:08, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can ping using the {{ping|username}} template btw. Also, the flower not only being in Azerbaijan isn't a reason for moving and "Khari-bulbul" only being used in Azerbaijan is also, wrong. Even if you google "Khari bulbul", you get 316,000 results compared to only 55,800 with "Ophrys caucasica", proving that "Khari-bulbul" is the WP:COMMONNAME for the plant. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 12:02, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Khari-bulbul is not used in Azerbaijan. Even scientific works use it. But, i still found it wrong to call it endemic to Caucasus! It is found in Anatolia and Iran... Zülfü E.Fərəcli (talk) 18:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

After reading and considering your points it would be a mistake on my part to move the article, thank you for bearing with me. Kevo327 (talk) 20:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong pictures

Most of the pictures in the gallery section are Ophrys mammosa flowers which is a related but independent flower Ophrys flower variant. I won't be removing the current pictures, but future editors of this article are adviced to replace them with the correct variant. - Kevo327 (talk) 16:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, could you please specify which ones? Or are all of them not the correct one (including the image in the stamp)? — CuriousGolden (T·C) 17:22, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CuriousGolden: as requested: per current revision; the image in the infobox is the correct variant, the images in the gallery are described (in the image detail on Wikimedia) as Ophrys mammosa and all but the last flower image are located in either Greece or Cyprus. The stamp shows the right flower. - Kevo327 (talk) 18:32, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I understand. I've deleted the wrong images. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 18:35, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]