Talk:Passiflora edulis

Name in English

According to Oxford Dictionary Online, 'passion fruit' is an alternative form in US English (or at any rate in their US English dictionary), while passionfruit is the form in their British and world English dictionary. I am changing the first paragraph accordingly, until somebody can cite a reference for the current claim ('passion fruit' in US and UK, 'passionfruit' in Australia and New Zealand). 109.84.1.42 (talk) 23:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC) Max Szabó

I am unable to find any reference to this being the case? Whens searching for 'passionfruit' on the Oxford Dictionary Online, it redirects me to 'passion fruit'. Can you cite a reference to your claim that it is 'Passionfruit' in the UK?--62.133.17.14 (talk) 13:51, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Question

Hello there! I am trying to find out what a fruit I remember from my childhood is actually called... it resembles a passion fruit very much - both the plant it grows on and the fruit itself. Instead of a semi-hard skin, this fruit has a soft, velvety skin that is bright orange. The inside is also similar to passion fruit - only the seeds are wrapped in a light blue sticky goo, and the seeds are somewhat bigger... We had one of there plants in our garden in Tanzania, but I have no idea what it is called. Please help. Thanks Tmbarfod@hotmail.com

I am looking for help to know the Bengali name of Passion Fruit, which is very prevalent in North East India. Can any editors help in locating the name and please add it in the section? Thanks. jchittoor@csdms.in —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jchittoor (talk • contribs) 05:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Anti Passiflora protest

On 30/07/2005 a group of people from Israel did demonstration against the Passiflora because it start the manufacturers start put this fruit in every product.

Passiflorafobia - afraid the Passiflora will take control of our life/world.

(The demonstration was cynical of course). here is the group site: http://www.pharsh.com/ here some pictures from the event: http://www.pharsh.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=11

Ripe enough to eat?

How do you tell if a passion fruit is ripe enough to eat please? --Rebroad 09:48, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

The skin of the Fruit is shrugged --Pinnecco 16:43, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

How the fruit looks like in Brazil

Here is a picture on how the fruit looks like in Brazil. It's more yellow: http://www.maria-brazil.org/newimages/maracuja.jpg

"Maracuja" redirect

Maracuja is currently redirecting to Passiflora foetida. Shouldn't it redirect here instead? --Cotoco 16:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Is passionfruit a citrus?

Is passionfruit a citrus fruit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.88.180.80 (talk • contribs) 19:47, 19 February 2007

No, definitely not a citrus. Nick 03:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The acidity of the juice reminds me of a lemon. Can someone confirm that it contains citric acid? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.84.205.186 (talk) 18:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It is quite definitely not a citrus fruit. Passion fruits are in the angiosperm family passifloraceae. Citrus fruits, such as oranges, lemons, limes, uglis, citrones, shaddocks, satsumas, clementines and grapefruits are in the family of angiosperms called rutaceae. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Origin of European name?

I had understood that it got the name passion fruit from Catholic monks in the Caribean because of some resemblance that they saw in its flower to the crown of thorns and the crucifix? 81.66.60.116 13:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

See Passion flower. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 02:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Seasonal availability?

Perhaps one should add what months of the year passionfruit is available in the Western hemisphere. 69.139.75.80 16:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Personal opinion

I removed this line:

I do enjoy eating passion fruit becuase it has a wonderful texture and velocity. Yum Yum. Yeah well as I have just said passion fruit is almost as yummi as mango which also rocks the boat.

from the page. Totally useless.

I agree but would like to know more about what parts of fruit are edible, beynod the pulp. Is the outer shell made into jam too?

Since it is very hard to separate the seeds from the yellow juicy pulp around them, is it ok to eat the seeds? Is it ok to crush the seeds, or swallow them whole?

Where is it native to?

Where is this species indigenous to? The article should state this information. Badagnani 01:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, I think it's important. 92.232.121.101 (talk) 14:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/passionfruit.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.121.101 (talk) 14:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Removal of names section

I don't see any purpose that this section serves. We don't need to translate every word into every single other language on any pages. Unless this section describes the evolution and etymology of the word in a paragraph format, I don't see the need for a list of names in other languages and countries. Dav2008 14:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

When there is enough material, I usually do a "taxonomy" section and list and discuz interesting common and scientific names. But I would not swamp the intro with names (only when its a stub maybe), it is not reader-friendly. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 01:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

In fact, the names may be highly relevant as we may have two species here. See also first section on this page. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 02:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

flavicarpa

MV some bit from genus page here. Together with the info already here - which ought to be sourced - it really does not look like the yellow and purple ones are the same species to me. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 01:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Vitamin C

The Vitamin C content (apparently high) should be mentioned. Badagnani 05:28, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

HIgh temperatures destroy cyanides

As far as I know Cyanides are extremely stable compounds due to the triple bond between the carbon and nitrogen, and would not be easily destroyed by jam making temperatures. I am going to remove the uncited comment about jam making temperatures destroying cyanide molecules until an adequate citation is provided.24.65.95.239 (talk) 19:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Hydrogen cyanide has a very low boiling point. Boil an aqueous hydrocyanic acid solution, and you'll disperse HCN in things like bitter almonds as a gas ― especially dangerous, since inhalation of that gas can indeed be fatal. Then again, that right there is another thing to consider: Water dissolves HCN very easily, forming an ionic hydronium cyanide solution ― the prussic, or hydrocyanic, acid talked about above. So, simply wash the skin with warm water, and, presto! The cyanide dissolves in it and down the drain it goes. ―2602:306:BCA6:8300:350A:84EE:7DF3:788 (talk) 00:00, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Are seeds good?

Is it better to eat the juice only, or better to eat the juice and the small black seeds?

Mitragynine?

"Diabetic patients must take noted caution when eating the fruit as its mitragynine has been known to cause discomfort."

Added "Citation Needed" to the end of this statement. I could not find any literature suggesting that Passiflora species even contain mitragynine, let alone that mitragynine has any effect on diabetics that it doesn't on anyone else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.42.8 (talk) 19:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Malicious external links

I clicked the external link on how to grow passion fruit and it leads to a malicious site. Moderator for this page should check and remove bad links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.70.205 (talk) 13:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Split passionfruit into a separate article

I've always called fruits of Passiflora generally "passionfruits", that is, not restricting it to fruits of P. edulis only. On Passiflora, it states "Sweet Granadilla (P. ligularis) is another widely-grown species. In large parts of Africa and Australia it is the plant called "passionfruit"". Passiflora tarminiana opens with the statement "Passiflora tarminiana is a species of passionfruit." Searching Google for dictionary definitions of passion fruit gives several sites that define it as "the fruit of a passionflower, especially Passiflora edulis". It appears that passionfruit doesn't strictly equal the fruit of P. edulis. The information on the edible fruit should be split into a separate article that discusses all of the species of passionfruit.192.104.39.2 (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

size of the purple passionfruit

The article currently claims that the size of the purple variety is "smaller than a lemon," which I see three issues with: 1) The sentence is sourced, but the source given does not mention lemons or describe the size of the purple passion fruit in this way. 2) Lemons come in many sizes. Florida's Best Fruiting Plants by Charles Boning) states that lemons are between 2.5-5 inches in length (diameter), roughly 6-13cm. There are definitely lemons that are smaller than that. 3) I'm used to seeing purple Passiflora edulis fruit that are larger than most lemons, but those could easily be cultivars that are mixes between the purple and yellow forms. But, Passiflora, Passionflowers of the World by Ulmer and MacDougal says the purple fruit is 5-6 cm long (diameter), which would make them roughly equivalent in size to a small lemon. 68.230.108.118 (talk) 08:33, 15 March 2011 (UTC)ale

As of now, the article states that the "berry" (perhaps the botanically correct term, but to everyone I've ever known, it's the "fruit") is 1–1.4 cm long, and provides an appropriately supportive citation for that size. However, as a lifelong (60+ years) consumer of passionfruit, I've never seen a mature fruit that small - the typical size is about that of a hen's egg, with some varieties rather larger. In other words, the ovate (typically not "spherical) fruit is about 6–7 cm in length, a little smaller in width. But I can't find an online reference for this - can someone else help? Ian Page (talk) 02:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I addressed size, "berry", and the two varieties using a new source. Thanks! FourViolas (talk) 03:52, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Please be more comprehensive

Not all edible pasion fruits are passiflora edulis (although these are almost the only ones sold in supermarkets) so the opening is too narrow. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 13:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Here is some further information:

Between 50 and 60 of the species of Passiflora have edible fruits, although about only five of these are used commercially.

This can be found in Frost, L. & Griffiths, A. (2001). Plants of Eden. Penzance: Alison Hodge. ISBN: 0 906720 29X

I hope this clarifies, as a comment made above (as well as mine)indicates, that not all passion fruits are passiflora edulis. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I looked at this same issue awhile back (does the word "passionfruit" apply only to P. edulis), and I found mixed results from the reliable sources. If you could clearly establish it with quotes from a couple different top sources, then perhaps this article could be reworked to split off P. edulis into a separate taxon article, and this one could retain it's focus on the fruit, under the new name Passionfruit. --Tom Hulse (talk) 16:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Long list of translations

Is this really necessary?

granadilla (Germany,[2] South Africa, where 'passion fruit' is also, but less frequently used, and South America, although in Costa Rica and Colombia, granadilla is a completely different fruit), grenadille, or couzou (France),[3] pasiflora (Israel), parchita (Venezuela), parcha (Puerto Rico), maracudja (French Guiana), maracuja (Italy, Germany),[4] maracujá (Brazil, Ecuador, Peru, Paraguay), maracuyá (Peru, Colombia, Panama), chinola (Dominican Republic), lilikoi (Hawaiian), magrandera (Shona), markisa (Indonesian), and lạc tiên, chanh dây or chanh leo (Vietnamese).

This is an article on the English Wikipedia, not a translator. We don't need translations to ten languages for every single article out there and I hardly see the point of this long list. Comments before I remove it? -download ׀ talk 00:27, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Do it. White 720 (talk) 18:18, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Done. -download ׀ talk 04:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Taste

The article says "It tastes like lemons, guava and pineapple combined." However, the reference cited doesn't support this. It says "The unique flavor is appealing, musky, guava-like and sweet/tart to tart" and elsewhere refers to a tart flavor. But there's no mention of lemons and pineapple. I'm not disputing the flavor - maybe it does taste like that. But we need a reference that supports this. Omc (talk) 13:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Are the plants male or female? or both?

We have a vine, quit big and healthy looking, lots of flowers for two years in a row, but no fruit. Not a single fruit. The vine is about 3 years old. Is it a male plant? I have found no mention in the article about this. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.195.96.159 (talk) 21:45, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

No. Passiflora species all have hermaphroditic flowers ― in other words, they have both male and female parts. The reason why your vine in particular has no fruit on it is because no unusually large bees (the size of carpenter bees, at least) have found your vine. You need unusually large bees to pollinate them, because A, the pollen is extremely heavy, and B, the flowers are too odd-shaped for ordinary honeybees. Then again, use of a paintbrush to pollinate the flowers manually (something I've done) works as a profound substitute for them... ―2602:306:BCA6:8300:350A:84EE:7DF3:788 (talk) 00:06, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Need a liliko'i page that redirects to passion frit

Searching for lilko'i, the name used in Hawai'i, does not return any page. It would be lovely to have such a page that redirects to passion fruit. Many things, such as liliko'i butter, are sold in Islands as such, so this is the only term many have with which to search.

I've corrected the spelling of liliko'i in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.104.30 (talk) 01:40, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Which part of the fruit is edible?

Perhaps it would be a good idea to write about which part of the food is edible, whether it is the skin or the flesh. As far as I can see there is no mention of this. dom96 (talk) 12:18, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Diabetes

The article currently says the peel may be useful in treating asthma.

There is also a claim that it is useful in treating diabetes: "Efficacy of Purple Passion Fruit Peel Extract in Lowering Cardiovascular Risk Factors in Type 2 Diabetic Subjects," Journal of Evidence-Based Complementary & Alternative Medicine, July 2013; vol. 18, 3: pp. 183-190., first published on February 6, 2013 Journal of Evidence-Based Complementary & Alternative Medicine http://chp.sagepub.com/search/results?fulltext=passion+fruit&x=0&y=0&submit=yes&journal_set=spchp&src=selected&andorexactfulltext=and by . I. Naga Raju, K. Kodandarami Reddy, C. Krishna Kumari, E. Bhaskar Reddy, S. Dattatreya Rao, C. Damodar Reddy, and Ronald Ross Watson. The article reports a double-blind study of 41 type two human diabetics. "A significant reduction in systolic blood pressure and fasting blood glucose was observed following administration of purple passion fruit (P < .05). Purple passion fruit was well tolerated, and no adverse events were reported" (from the abstract).

And here is a relevant animal study: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0101-20612010000300034&script=sci_arttext&tlng=pt, which is a citable source. It says that in diabetic Wister rates, "reduction of blood glucose levels (59%) and the higher increase of the hepatic glycogen level (71%) [were achieved]. The conversion of blood glucose into hepatic glycogen was considered the probable action mechanism involved" (from the abstract).211.225.33.104 (talk) 05:09, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Passiflora (passion fruit vine)

I am unable to discover the reproduction secret of natures' way of spreading the passiflora about in vast fields (such as in pastures) when there are no fruits in these pastures. Is it possible that the wind or maybe birds or insects somehow carry the pistola or someother part of the plant unintentionally bearing new life of another passiflora? I have tried unsucessfully except to transplant very carefully by not disturbing the entire root and plant to another location.Robaky (talk) 21:19, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

No section about diseases and pests

I'd like to add a section to this page about the types of diseases that are associated with the fruit. I'd also like to talk about the types of fungus that can be created from it and the pests associated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mouakell (talk • contribs) 18:22, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Go for it. The article could really use a section on cultivation in general, as well as more specific information on pests and diseases. Plantdrew (talk) 19:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if we could tempt Mgoodyear to offer any advice, if he's not to busy with his bloomin' daffs. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:34, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Well he is both planting and writing about them, so he can't really be diverted at the moment. But feel to plunder the resources I have placed in Narcissus, see the section Pests and diseases, and the corresponding section in the bibliography. I am actually having to write a lot of pest articles because they simply were not on Wikipedia to link to. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 22:22, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

This is all I have added. Please add more to where you see fit. I put a few important diseases here but there are a ton more out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mouakell (talk • contribs) 00:04, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Fyi, I intend to edit this new section further. Some of the content recently added is outside WP:NOTJOURNAL, i.e., it is too technical or too detailed for the general wiki readership. Please review WP:WWIN. Also, since user Mouakell appears to be the expert adding this diseases/pests information, please try to supply other general background using the correct template for citations, WP:CITE for cite web or cite journal. Your current method creates extra work for editors when you should be following this Wikipedia format yourself. --Zefr (talk) 01:32, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Ambiguity in the Introduction: Species, "Cultivation" and Hawaii listed independently from United States

Second sentence of the article had me stumbling through it:

"It is cultivated commercially in tropical and subtropical areas for its sweet, seedy fruit and is widely grown in several countries of South America, Central America, the Caribbean, Africa, Southern Asia, Israel, Australia, Hawaii (Liliko'i)[1] and United States."

Since Hawaii is part of the United States, this is confusing and should be fixed. It seems to me that someone has an agenda to push the Hawaiian name or place (it is not clear what "Liliko'i" means) on the reader in the present line. Passionflower has many names across the world, so there is no justification to single out this one and it seems left over from the changes made recently when the name was translated from many languages because someone couldn't let it go.

If the intention is to list different types of regions the passion-fruit is grown in the intro, that makes good sense. To do that properly, I would list the US and a subordinate clause of Hawaii, California and Florida, which are tropical, Mediterranean and sub-tropical climates and equally important in cultivation of this fruit. However, that is not all inclusive and "milder regions of North America" could be added alternately. That would cover Mexico where it is commercially grown on a smaller scale, but currently missing.

But, this article is schizophrenic in that the listing is for Passiflora edulis but as has been mentioned there are other species of passion-fruits. The Maypop, P. incarnata, is native to the United States (State Flower of Tennessee) and possibly native as far north as some southern areas of Canada, and is a passion-fruit that has been historically an important food and today both invasive and ornamental, in addition to being a backyard food enjoyed by many. The article needs to be clear on what it is covering whether it be edulis, or all edible species of Passiflora, which seemed to be the original intent. 98.82.130.131 (talk) 14:42, 7 June 2015 (UTC)Pupilla

Is passionfruit the name of the fruit or the name of the plant?

• For sure, with passionfruit one most commonly refers to the fruit and not to the plant.
• In this ITIS report the only reported alternative names of 'Passiflora edulis' are 'passionflower' and 'purple granadilla'
• See also this preceding talk section.

Also in the case that with passionfruit one could refer both to the fruit and the plant, like the term apple, then we can solve the incipit better, like Wikipedia article about Apple does: "The apple tree (Malus domestica) is a deciduous tree in the rose family best known for its sweet, pomaceous fruit, the apple." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esponenziale (talk • contribs) 21:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Nutrient content

I noticed that the serving sizes used in the nutrition section and in the nutrition table were inconsistent. I'm a newbie here. Is there a standard serving size (one whole fruit, 100 gram of whole fruit, etc) for fresh fruit used on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JudyCChan (talk • contribs) 15:23, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

In order to standardize nutrient contents for comparison across different food sources, most scientific publications and government labs who analyze and report nutrient composition use 100 grams as the standard amount. In Wikipedia articles on individual foods where nutrient tables are reported, 100 grams is the amount used. I saw that the title of the nutrient table for passion fruit was incomplete, so edited it to now state that the data represent 100 grams of fruit. --Zefr (talk) 15:36, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Health effects of eating passion fruit

This note below was added to the top of the page. Moved here to be in sequence.

Not even mention the purported calmative effect of the fruit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.208.61 (talk) 12:59, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

A supposed effect of eating any food on human behavior, such as a calming influence, would need to be supported by a high-quality clinical review per the WP:MEDRS guideline. To my knowledge, there has been no such research on passion fruit, so no comment about a calming effect can be stated in the article. --Zefr (talk) 15:25, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Culture: incorrect statement, inappropriate reference

In the "Culture" section, this reference is used to justify the following sentence: "Certain cultivars are resilient against light frosts, and thus can survive perennially, even in more temperate climates such as that of Great Britain." The reference, however, speaks of cultivars of other species from the genus Passiflora, and hybrids, not of Passiflora edulis, the subject of this article. Of Passiflora edulis, the reference has this to say: "Other species, including P. edulis (the passion fruit or granadilla), P. coccinea, P. racemosa, P. vitifolia and P. quadrangularis require tropical conditions and minimum temperatures of 10-16°C (50-61°F), depending upon the species. Their cultivation is not dealt with here." 2001:8A0:6CC7:AE01:D5A9:A84C:A581:BFF2 (talk) 01:42, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I've fixed that issue, and found a source which should be useful to give the section somewhat better detail in the process. FourViolas (talk)

Citations on 'Uses'

In the uses section of the article there is a lot of uncited information. I do not want to remove it as there is quite a lot and will look into adding citations and/or fact checking some things but if anyone else thinks it should be removed/edited then please do so. Thanks Lewis, of Campbell (talk) 05:43, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

What type of fertelizers is applied and what stage?

I need help 41.210.155.89 (talk) 05:08, 13 January 2022 (UTC)