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Requested move

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User:AlachuaSwamp has suggested the page be moved from Perry race riot to Perry race massacre. I think his opinion has merit, so I've brought it here for discussion and brought his edit caption forward as the basis for discussion... "I would like you to please change the Title of Perry Race Riot to Perry Massacre. I am citing the change in the name of the Tulsa Race Riots to Massacre and well as other humans rights and civil rights revelations that the white mobs lynchings, destroyed and in these cased the police and those in authority fabricated and did not arrest perpetrators that committed crimes against blacks. By calling it a "Race Riot" the insinuation is that blacks were either instigating or not victims."Jacona (talk) 16:29, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. I think AlachuaSwamp is correct, the term "race riot" is an attempt to pass responsibility from the perpetrators of the massacre to the victims. Jacona (talk) 16:29, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support deisenbe (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until a correctly formed "Requested Move" discussion is started, and without the extra capitalization. Please go to WP:RM and follow the instructions. Also, please point out at least one reliable source that calls it a massacre. Dicklyon (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for fixing the case above. Next, please find a source with "Perry massacre". I didn't find one on the article. Dicklyon (talk) 20:18, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I've gone ahead and changed it. I don't think we need a source for this. It's Tulsa massacre, Ocoee massacre, Atlanta massacre, etc. I agree "race riot" is trying to blame the Blacks. deisenbe (talk) 16:48, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think massacre is correct because the FBI defines massacre as four or more murders over a time without a cooling off period. Here the murders were spread over a period of more than a week, but the frenzied atmosphere described indicates no "cooling off" had occurred. It would be good to have more information about the 4th murder, of the man who lived in the town and wrote the offending letter. Right now, the article doesn't have his name and I couldn't find it. Pmdavis500 (talk) 20:15, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I've used Meghan Martinez's master's thesis to provide supporting details. She cites the specific newspaper articles but I only linked to her online thesis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmdavis500 (talkcontribs) 20:12, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]