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A fact from Ray cat appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that color-changing cats could help us communicate with the future?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ray cat.

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-- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe)

In re review in progress

@Robert McClenon: I am the primary author of this draft, and it was submitted to AfC without anyone asking me. Now, draftspace drafts don't belong to anyone, but I had more that I planned to write, and if I'd been asked I would have said no, don't submit this, I'll just go ahead and finish it and then mainspace it myself. (I had only stopped because I'd offered someone else the chance to write a portion of it, and they never got around to it.) So, just to save you the time of reviewing something I intend to publish either way, I thought I'd let you know, if you'd like to put it on hold or procedurally decline or whatever is bureaucratically the best way to handle that. All the best. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 00:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tamzin - I have unmarked it for review. Any other reviewer may decline it. Any other reviewer may accept it if they have the Page Mover permission, or if they know how to request that a blocking redirect be deleted. (It is surprising how many reviewers don't know that they can tag a blocking redirect for {{db-afc-move}}). Robert McClenon (talk) 03:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) I'll try to finish it up tomorrow, and then I'll just mainspace it myself, since it was never intended as an AfC draft. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 03:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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An artist's impression of a ray cat

... that to create nuclear waste warnings that would still be understood in 10,000 years, two philosophers proposed genetically engineering cats to change appearance around radiation? Source: Beauchamp, Scott (2015-02-24). "How to Send a Message 1,000 Years to the Future". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on 2015-02-26. Retrieved 2023-01-15.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Beeper (company); Template:Did you know nominations/Sydney asbestos crisis
- Comment: This might make a good quirky hook.^(?) Note: Article contains about a paragraph total copied from Zhang 2014. This is done in compliance with WP:PLAGIARISM (Method articles are CC-BY unless stated otherwise), and is not enough text to bring the article below 1,500 characters of prose.

Moved to mainspace by Tamzin (talk). Self-nominated at 21:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ray cat; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Tamzin: Other than the already noted CC-BY content above, most of the Earwig responses are false positives. Hook is interesting and sourced. Good for length and newness. Tamzin is below the emergency QPQ threshhold and 1 QPQ has been provided. I'd be interested in seeing some variants of the hook. Currently it feels, verbose. Happy to proceed. No preference on hook. Image below looks fine as well. All good to go. Seddon ^talk 00:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Seddon: Personally, I think this is a good use case for a longer-but-still-quirky hook, but okay, how about:

ALT1: ... that to protect people in the distant future from nuclear waste, two philosophers proposed cats that change appearance around radiation?

-- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 01:15, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Seddon and Tamzin: note that as Tamzin has nominated more than twenty articles, two QPQs are needed as the emergency backlog mode is active. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 03:20, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Second QPQ added. Thanks for pointing this out. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 05:55, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bremps: I didn't propose the image because, great as it is, it's not-independently-significant fan art. But if that doesn't bother the reviewer and promoter, then I'd defer to them. All I'll add is that instead of (pictured) we would want to say (depicted) and then caption as "An artist's impression of a ray cat". -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 02:13, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Seddon ^talk 23:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tamzin, may this be used for the April Fools' Day set, particularly for the glorious image? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 18:56, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MyCatIsAChonk: By all means! If you want a hook that's more April-Fools-y, could do something like
ALT-4/1: ... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future?

-- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 19:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely amazing- it's been set! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added the main page image template to the top of the nomination, image checks out CC4.0 and is in article. You may wish to modify the image caption. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glowing green?

I can only see the summary online (animals can be bred that will react with discoloration of the skin when exposed) - do Bastide and Fabbri use any language in their 1981 paper that suggest a "glowing" aspect to this, or is that something that's crept in from others writing about the concept since? (I'm not sure how well this bodes for being able to transmit this specific idea intact for 10,000 years...) Belbury (talk) 22:15, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Belbury: The official English translation of the article is available for free at [1] (click "preview" to view online or "PDF" to download). Your comment has prompted me to look a bit closer at the original proposal, and interestingly they never specify what the appearance change should be, and even the usage of cats is only presented as one example. So I've updated the article to reflect that (and will update the proposed DYK hook in a sec). As to glowing, Bricobio did suggest making bioluminescent ray cats, although it's not clear whether they actually put any R&D toward that idea. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 22:44, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorporation into Paolo Fabbri (semiotician)

Greetings, editors! I was glad to come across this article by chance from DYK, having expanded Paolo Fabbri (semiotician) a few weeks ago. I'm not a semiotician and my only interest in Fabbri comes from his connections to Rimini, so I did not know the first thing about ray cats! That biography is very much focussed on his academic career from the various obituaries I found (and, consequently and unfortunately, it reads somewhat like a CV).

For the moment, I've added wikilinks to Ray cat in Fabbri's infobox and See also, but if editors who have worked on this article would be happy to incorporate, as they see fit, Fabbri's connection with ray cats to the main article body at Paolo Fabbri (semiotician), I am sure they could do a far better job than me, knowing much more about this topic. Thanks! IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 13:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]