Talk:Rhum Barbancourt

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Food and drinkWikipedia:WikiProject Food and drinkTemplate:WikiProject Food and drinkFood and drink articles

High

This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Food and Drink task list:

To edit this page, select here

Here are some tasks you can do for WikiProject Food and drink:

Help bring these Top Importance articles currently B Status or below up to GA status: Agaricus bisporus (i.e. mushroom), Beef, Bread, Curry, Drink, Food, Ham and eggs, Soy sauce, Sushi, Yogurt
Bring these Top Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Beer, French cuisine, Sugar
Bring these High Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Apple, Burger King, Fish
Participate in project-related deletion discussions.
Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review WP:Trivia and WP:Handling trivia to learn how to do this.
Add the {{WikiProject Food and drink}} project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects, select here.
Provide photographs and images for Category:Wikipedia requested images of food
Consider joining this project's Assessment task force. List any project ideas in this section

Note: These lists are transcluded from the project's tasks pages.

Haiti High‑importance

	Haiti portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Haiti, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Haiti-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HaitiWikipedia:WikiProject HaitiTemplate:WikiProject HaitiHaiti articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Spirits High‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spirits, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Spirits or Distilled beverages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SpiritsWikipedia:WikiProject SpiritsTemplate:WikiProject SpiritsSpirits articles

High

This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Spirits WikiProject task list:

This list is transcluded from the tasks page, to edit it click here.

Here are some tasks you can do for WikiProject Spirits:

Tagging all articles that fall under our scope with {{WikiProject Spirits}} and assessing their quality and importance to the project.

Opinion[edit]

THIS (STUFF) IS SO DAMN GOOD —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:209.89.37.202 (talk • contribs) 17:32, 8 October 2006

Why yes, yes it is! RevelationDirect (talk) 00:47, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ethyl carbamate[edit]

Is it true that Canada has prohibited Rhum Barbancourt due to high levels of the chemical ethyl carbamate? Badagnani (talk) 05:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's available at the British Columbia Liquor Store, so I doubt it's been banned at least at the federal level. Zelse81 (talk) 23:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is absolutely no evidence to support this claim. However, this seems to be a potential problem for spirits made from fruit (however not necessarily specific to Canada). See: Food Industries Manual Christopher G J Baker, M.D. Ranken, R.C. Kill Hope this helps in some way. Cheers! Savvyjack23 (talk) 00:00, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rhum Agricole or not?[edit]

There is some contradiction to whether Rhum Barbancourt is an agricole or not. In other words this means there is doubt whether the rums are made purely from sugar cane juice. Some sources say they use sugar cane syrup during certain times of the year. This would exlude some of their production from being defined as 'agricole'. There is also no mention on the labels of Barbancourt rums about agricole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Count Silvio (talk • contribs) 20:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. See: The Modern Mixologist: Contemporary Classic Cocktails by Tony Abou-Ganim, Mary Elizabeth Faulkner, Mario Batali; Rum by Ian Williams; World's Best Cocktails: 500 Signature Drinks from the World's Best Bars and Bartenders by Tom Sandham

There are tons of books on this. Also, sometimes bottle brands only refer to it as rhum, which is short for "rhum agricole." Savvyjack23 (talk) 00:07, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Serious mistake[edit]

To say that Dupré Barbancourt had no children is a serious mistake.

Jérôme Maximilien Xavier DUPRE BARBANCOURT, founder of the " Rhum Barbancourt" in 1862, first married Marie-Louise Pauline Germain, and together had 3 children, two girls Gilberte Barbancourt and Marie Amélia Andrée Barbancourt and one boy Max who died shortly after birth.

Gilberte Barbancourt married Léon Liautaud and Marie Amélia Andrée Barbancourt married Simon André Gardère and together had 6 children:
1- Louis Gardère
2-Renée Gardère Daniels
3- Denise Gardère Carrié
4-Max Gardère
5-Marcel Gardère
6-Anne-Marie Gardère (still living at ninety one in Boca Raton, Florida)

Pauline Germain died shortly after the death of her son Max in 1888. Dupré Barbancourt three years later married Nathalie Gardère and had no children with her.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramg007 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Ramg007, it seems that this no heir was added dating back to 29 December 2010 by IP 66.229.224.184 (shown here: [1]) based on [2], which cited Schutt-Ainé, Patricia (1994). Haiti: A Basic Reference Book. Miami, Florida: Librairie Au Service de la Culture. p. 41. ISBN 0-9638599-0-0. "Dupré Barbancourt left no heir and when he died the company passed to his wife Nathalie Gardère who managed it with the help of her nephew, Paul Gardère. When she died, Paul then directed the company’s destiny until 1946."

Thank you for your edit (whether this IP was you or not) for Delphine Nathalie Gardère [3], which agrees with the sources we have.

Still searching for the name inclusions (in bold) of Simon André Gardère Barbancourt [4] and Jérôme Maximilien Dupré Xavier Barbancourt [5] in reputable sources.

Please understand, that Wikipedia is only as accurate as the sources it is citing. We cannot accept personal information about the founder of the subject as true, unless it is formally presented through some sort of publishing, interview etc. Furthermore, the Barbancourt family to its own members seems like a more complex situation, which is why it isn't so clear in a handful of sources available to us. For example, there was a dispute over Jane Barbancourt and their usage over the name, which in turn, has been forced legally to change their name to Rhum Vieux Labbé. What we need is not first hand accounts, what we need are sources, whether that be in written form from published areas (Le Nouvelliste, Le Matin, publishings directly from Haiti), or perhaps a radio segment on Youtube etc. We have no control over what is published. If what you believe may be untrue, please contact these publishings houses directly and have them amended, so editors will not continue to reuse. Perhaps its the opposing family (Jane Barbancourt), that has clashed with this family in the media, which has caused this confusion to begin with vice versa.

If you could assist in finding sources to verify what you have written, would be really appreciated. Cheers! Savvyjack23 (talk) 21:04, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]