Talk:Sankar Montoute

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Review: September 25, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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Passed. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:43, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs) 23:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: WikiOriginal-9 (talk · contribs) 15:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
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Pass/Fail:

Notes

Add CFL to lead I guess.
Added cats.
"Sankar, refers to the Hindu god of destruction" There's probably a wikilink for this.
"to New York City, to live with relatives" not sure that comma is needed
"800m relay" Probably a link for this.
"He was named the school's most valuable athlete in May 1979" Change "He" to Montoute for less repetition.
"scout team" I think there's a link for this?
I made some uncontroversial copyedits to the infobox.
Get rid of the years for Saint Leo in the infobox and just put "basketball". Otherwise, it looks like he played football there. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @WikiOriginal-9: Addressed all but the years point. As for that, there doesn't seem to be much precedent for how to do it; looking at Antonio Gates (the first 'college basketball → NFL player' that comes to mind) it does seem to have the years. I added a note next to the years part – does that work? Also, per the disambiguation page Sankar his name refers to Shiva; the cited articles don't mention 'Shiva' but I added it anyway – do you think that's alright? Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  That looks good. Passing the article. Nice work! ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:42, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 talk 22:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Sankar Montoute was the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago?

Source: PFR

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jamaludin Malik (legislator)
Comment: Will do QPQ within next 24 hours.

5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 251 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

interesting hook. However the cited reference does not explicitly state that Sankar Montoute is the first player from Trinidad and Tobago in NFL. There are names of 5 other players from Trinidad and Tobago in this list. Cited source may be updated Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - @BeanieFan11:: You are right. Agreed. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 11:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarvagyana guru: What else needs to be done to approve this hook? If it is ready, are you able to approve this? Z1720 (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The article is long enough and well sourced. The hook is verifiable against the reference provided. Most of the references provided in this article are paywalled. But considering that this article is a Good articles/Sports and recreation, these can be accepted in good faith. The article has been recently substantially expanded. The article has recently undergone a successful GA Review and awarded Good Article status. The hook is interesting and article seems good enough for DYK. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 05:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tick mark suitably modified Sarvagyana guru (talk) 08:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11 and Sarvagyana guru: gonna quickly suggest:

ALT1: ... that Sankar Montoute became the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago in 1987?

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:34, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the need of specifying 1987? BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Meh. i thought it'd be more interesting if they joined later rather than earlier, and 1987 seems fairly late to me. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron:Suggest to retain the earlier hook

or in case 1987 is required to be mentioned, then maybe rephrased as
... that in 1987, Sankar Montoute became the first from Trinidad and Tobago to play in NFL?

Sarvagyana guru (talk) 07:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]