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Talk:Satu Mare, Suceava

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Țibeni

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  • 1) The relevant guideline in this case is WP:GEOLAND, and that is perfectly clear that places smaller than those legally recognized are not automatically considered to have standalone notability, but are to be "considered on a case-by-case basis in accordance with the GNG". (Incidentally, I note you've made no attempt to show how GNG validates an article on this topic.)
  • 2) The "all villages of other countries are on here" is a) unproven b) false and c) irrelevant to this discussion, simply because administrative systems vary widely among countries, and what is logical for one may not be so for another. For instance, neighboring Serbia is divided into just 150 municipalities, each covering dozens of settlements, and it may actually make sense to have articles on those. In Romania, the 2700 communes average six villages apiece - a size we can perfectly manage within a single article.
  • 3) Of course stubs are not problematic in principle, but the fact that one can exist does not mean it must do so. This very article, Satu Mare, Suceava, is a stub, has been one for eleven years - but a) the topic is clearly notable per WP:GEOLAND and b) the topic is at least in theory expandable, starting from the town hall site and moving on from there. Neither of those conditions is true for its village of Țibeni, which neither has legal recognition nor readily available sources covering the topic. - Biruitorul Talk 23:11, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That seems fair. I did not realize that the villages were not legally recognized, and thought of them as equal to the Czech or Croatian villages. My bad. But how come tiny unincorporated communities are considered notable then?--Seacactus 13 (talk) 02:56, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. On Wikipedia we learn from one another!
Personally, I disagree with that practice of articles on tiny hamlets. It’s an American thing, mostly. For Europe (France, Italy, Russia and so on), it really is the case, for the most part, that articles only deal with administrative units (communes, villages, selsoviets, whatever they may be called). There are exceptions, but that is the general rule. - Biruitorul Talk 05:10, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]