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‎ This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. --Nancy talk 08:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In section The Earliest Information, how is the text "Lyon noted that all traces had by then long since been buried in their ruins, but from the remains of some ancient foundations which had been discovered, the site was probably on the brow of Broomfield, near the Mast Dock and adjacent to Sayes Court", referring to The history of the town and port of Dover and of Dover castle page 139, by John Lyon, printed in 1814, and freely available in full from Google Books, a Copyvio? --Robkam (talk) 18:56, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I took it out because it appeared to have been lifted from Deptford#Governance. I considered dealing with it as a content split & adding attribution for the copy but as it did not directly refer to the article subject - being about an adjacent property - I figured that {{main|Deptford}} would suffice. With regard to things being "freely available" this does not equate to being "free of copyrights" although in the case of a book published in 1814 this could be the case but the fact of it being on the web would have no bearing. Regardless though, any copying or paraphrasing of out-of-copyright sources should still be clearly identified as a quote. See for example Template:1911 which we add when we have used the text from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannia. Best, Nancy talk 18:05, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It has been in the Sayes Court article from the start, it was copied from there to the Deptford article, on 00:28, 9 January 2010. --Robkam (talk) 21:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for getting the dates the wrong way around. Look, you know better than I the scale of the cleanup task so it would really help the CCI team if you could make a start going through your contributions and removing the text that you know you copied or paraphrased. The full list of articles/diffs is at the investigation subpage. Please feel free to add notes to the talk page of the investigation noting what you've cleared but please don't mark anything resolved on the project page as it will need to be checked first. In particular help with the stuff taken from off-line sources would be incredibly useful; I've ordered some of the frequently used texts from my local library but they will take a while to come through. Thanks in advance, Nancy talk 07:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The copyright cleanup task is not relevant to the Sayes Court article, you should be posting this on my talk and not here. --Robkam (talk) 11:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added attribution for you regarding the text taken from The History of the Town and Port of Dover and of Dover Castle. Can you please make sure to credit fully any other PD sources you copy/have copied using Template:Source-attribution. Cheers, Nancy talk 08:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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