Talk:Sex in the Hebrew Bible

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Many of the “references” on this page a clearly written from one POV. (If we were to name it, we might call it conservative evangelicalism.)

One particular example is the statement that “Romans 1:24-32 tells the story of how homosexuals turned from God”. This verse seems to talk about a wide range of "unnatural" behaviors. Also, the word “homosexual” never appears as such.

All the incidences in this list need to be accompanied by a references to the commentary of a biblical authority. Further, the commentary should reflect a wider range of interpretations. Currently, it seems to predominately reflect a literalist reading of the bible which would view these bible verses referenced as “laws regulating” sexual intercourse. It should mention that there are branches of Christianity that believe these verses are open to interpretation. Fixer1234 05:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Sexual Liberation: The Scandal of Christendom" by Raymond Lawrence might be a good start for another - more sex positive POV, unfortunately, I don't own a copy. Gwendelen (talk) 17:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"God forbids homosexuality" is hardly the only reasonable interpretation of that Leviticus passage. :S —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.127.79 (talk) 05:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was shocked by this article. When I looked at "Sex in the Bible" I was looking for parts of the bible that mention sex, not someone's interpretation of each passage. Wiki is not Sunday sermon, with a passage then what it means and all, leave speculation out of it... 24.63.111.174 (talk) 02:00, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is the result of this discussion, but why is the Romans 1 verse no longer present? This seems to imply that interpretation should be left out (unless we cite all common POV and link). However, the verse seems to clearly refer to sex. Would there be a problem with adding it back?

On a related note, what about the verses in 1 Corinthians and Ephesians which related marriage to sex? I will likely add these as well and let concensus sort them out, unless there is a significant reason not to. Bakkster Man (talk) 15:27, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Romans 1

I looked at a reference page, and there was no mention of premarital sex; only the word fornication was used several times, and the true meaning of this word is debatable, not to overlook that it is the King James version being used. This is an important topic to be discussed and researched as it is the only true mention in the article of premarital sex in the New Testament. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rucha58 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Age of consent

Add something no age of consent in the bible? - Rebeccah was 3 years old when she married Isaac (check the math). And so on. PiCo 16:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rebecca was 3 at the time of marriage according to Rashi, who passed along the counting on the Seder Olam Rabbah^[1]. However, others think that counting is incorrect, as it is based on counting from report of Rebecca's birth in Gen:22.

It does seem true the the Hebrew bible is silent on the age of consent, as the issue is debated in the Talmud. It also precisely her consent that is at issue, see Gen:24 57-58, where her leave from her family is by her consent. 108.83.67.57 (talk) 13:19, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.seder-olam.info/seder-olam-g18-isaac.html#rebekah

Sex in the Talmud

Apart from sex about the Bible, another topic that is arguably controversial is sex in the Talmud. There are all sorts of allegations that the Talmud promotes sexual immorality such as pedophilia and it would be good thing if we could clear up those charges. [http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/judaism-israel/31979-pedophilia-talmuds-dirty-secret.html] [http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/america_2.html] ADM (talk) 11:41, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See Arayot; this is the Hebrew term for any sexual relationship which is forbidden by Jewish religious law (including the Talmud). This article is currently a stub - please help expand it.

In relation to accusations of paedophilia, I'm afraid they don't stand up to scrutiny. The Talmud forbids sexual relations with anyone under the age of 12 (13 for girls), the age which it regards as the 'average' age for puberty. In mediaeval Europe, 12 was regarded as the age at which sex was permitted; in modern Portugal, the age of consent is still 14. Please refer to respected academic sources, rather than self-published websites. Newman Luke (talk) 13:03, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but please note that I don't necessarly support these strange allegations, I was just looking for reliable documentation about the subject. ADM (talk) 13:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't support "these strange allegations", then why have you spammed this identical statement with these inappropriate links onto multiple Talk: pages? The websites are obviously unreliable, so why would you start there to do your "research"? Jayjg ^(talk) 03:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mentira!!! Sabemos perfectamente la verdad!!! El Talmud promueve sexo con bebés!!! Asqueroso!!! Y asquerosos son!!! 2003:F0:5F22:8000:F964:22EF:CB03:AE9E (talk) 17:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.seder-olam.info/seder-olam-g18-isaac.html#rebekah

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