Talk:Someday (Mariah Carey song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: DannyMusicEditor (talk · contribs) 01:29, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I will take this on as late as this coming (June 3). By then, I will be out of school. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 01:29, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

It's been nearly 10 days DannyMusicEditor.  — Calvin999 08:29, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

You are totally right. Getting some done tonight, I promise. I've read through the whole thing before, there were a few obvious grammatical errors last I checked, don't know if they've been fixed. Please double check. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 12:46, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Anything neutral, I haven't checked yet. Even the one red mark is no big deal, I just spy a couple small problems. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 23:51, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Lead

• "Someday" was released as the album's third single on November 15, 1990, in the United Kingdom Forgive me if I'm the one off here, but shouldn't the comma go after "United Kingdom" rather than "1990"?
  • MOS:DATE says to use a comma after the year unless other punctuation is used.  — Calvin999
• Perhaps it's just because it was an album GA I worked on, but I've been told by GA reviewers not to link studio album.
  • Unlinked.  — Calvin999
• I think the first mention of "Columbia" should be "Columbia Records", with the appropriate link.
  • Linked.  — Calvin999
• In the infobox, is a maxi single a Proper Noun? Cause I don't think so.
  • Doesn't really matter does it? It's just a format, it's not used in sentence.  — Calvin999
    • Well, I have a personal problem with it because we have this same thing with genres. The first is capitalized, the rest are not. I feel that should be the same for every song or album or artist article, unless the given items are indeed proper nouns. I will be bold here. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 13:51, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
      • What is it you want me to do? Have subsequent ones in lower case?  — Calvin999

That's all I got here for now; if I find something in the body making the lead worth changing, I'll post there and here.

Background

• I have read this three times through and still fail to find anything wrong with it.

Recording

• Same thing with the studio album link, maybe?
  • Already linked in Background.  — Calvin999
• Of these, You mean of the seven which made the album? Did the demo tape have any on it that were scrapped? Please clarify.
  • I've reworded it. She recorded 14 songs between 1985-88, seven were eventually included on her debut album. Of those seven, four were handed included on a demo picked up by Mottola in 1988.  — Calvin999
• There's information which I feel is more appropriate here than in the MTV Unplugged section, particularly the last sentence in that paragraph. That information should first be presented up here, and then maybe a little down there if possible. I do see some correlation and link between that last sentence there and the one before it, but still feel the last one should go up here. I mean, doesn't it seem wrong that you're talking about how Cadway does guitars when there weren't originally any guitars there?
  • I don't think it will make sense to talk about the Unplugged version in the Recording section when the Unplugged version didn't exist until 1992. Also, Trevor Anderson talks about how the guitar stops it sounding timeless in his 2015 retrospective review, which I think leads on nicely from Mariah having said it 25 years earlier, keeps it more chronological.  — Calvin999 08:18, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
    • Perhaps I misunderstand. Isn't the last sentence in MTV Unplugged talking about changes to the original "Someday" before it was released in the first place? The stuff Mariah didn't like about it? I think that information is good to have here, but if I'm applying that to something different, let me know. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 13:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
      • I've moved the final sentence up.  — Calvin999 14:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
• No need for "Its producer", just "producer"
  • Changed.  — Calvin999

Release and remixes

• The second "sentence" is a fragment, fix it or combine the two sentences.
  • I've re-worded it.  — Calvin999 09:00, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
• Could find nothing else wrong here.

Composition and critical reception

• Are you absolutely certain you can't find more reception for this? This was a number-one US single (big deal!) and I have reasonable doubt that only two reviews mention anything of value about this particular song.
  • The album was released 27 years ago before most reviews and single reviews were online. This is unfortunately all I have found.  — Calvin999 09:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
    • Then I'll use my EBSCO access and see if I can find anything on it. For now it's fine. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 12:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
• The section is written well, though.
• By the way....personal opinion: I totally disagree with that last reviewer, I like the solo.
  • So do I, I'd like to hear the horn version though.  — Calvin999 09:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Chart performance

• Looks all good.

Promotion

• with the adult Carey shadowing her movements, I don't know what this means.
  • A young girl plays Mariah as a school girl, and the 20 year old Mariah is shadowing her movements, almost like looking back in time.  — Calvin999 09:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
• You should name this section "Music video" and move that last part about the Vegas show into the part where every other compilation is mentioned.
  • Done.  — Calvin999 09:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I see no other issues that need addressed. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 20:09, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. DannyMusicEditor  — Calvin999 09:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)