Talk:South West France (wine region)

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Did you know... that Bordeaux wine merchants in the Middle Ages, concerned about the competition from nearby regions, prohibited trading access to Bordeaux until most of their wine was sold?

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Would the more accurate South West France wine region be too clumsy?--Wetman (talk) 19:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

South West France (wine region) is already a redirect, and that would be my preference if it has to be moved and this name become a redirect. When I created the article a few days ago, the plain article name "South West France" wasn't "taken", and South-West France (European Parliament constituency) didn't use it as a redirect. Tomas e (talk) 14:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it probably would be best to move it to something that has "wine" in the title (ala Bordeaux wine, Languedoc wine, etc) to more consistent with other wine region articles. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 15:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Propose that the article be moved per the related naming norms, to fall in line with all the others using indigenous region names followed by wine, moving to the present redirect Sud-Ouest wine. Anyone have strong feelings and good reason why not? MURGH ^disc. 15:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer South West France (wine region). While some use "Sud-Ouest" also in English, it is a term never seen on labels (to the best of my knowledge), so I see little reason not to translate it. OCW uses South West France for their entry, which is why I named it this way when I created it. Moving it to something with "wine" in the name makes sense in a more general encyclopedia, but I would like to keep the "South West France" term somewhere in the title to be in line with OCW. Tomas e (talk) 15:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, so it does. The authentic naming isn't too consistent sice several "styles" are used, but it would be nice with the simplest name containing "wine". Maybe not too much difference between South West France wine, South West France (wine) and South West France (wine region) then? MURGH ^disc. 17:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I don't have a strong preference for a proposed title, I would agree with Tomas that Sud-Ouest would not be ideal and is rarely seen on wine bottles. (I have only seen 2 in my entire life time) It is certainly not a name that the "common" wine drinker would recognize. As I mentioned above, as long as it has "wine" somewhere in the title--I'm good. :) Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 19:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not titling with "Sud-Ouest" (unlike the Germans ;p) is fine with me, we have all the redirects we want, but "wine" ought to be up there. I put up a new proposed move target. MURGH ^disc. 20:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Identical topic

A page, The south west (wine region) has been created. It seems to me nothing there isn't here and it might as well just be made into a redirect, or something to be merged? Opinions? MURGH ^disc. 11:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That other article should definitely be made into a redirect. The French term Sud-Ouest may be rather unambigously seen as referring to the wines of the South West of France, but an English translation into "The South West" with no mentioning of France in the title, is quite ambiguous. (The South West (French wine region) would have been more OK IMHO, if the content didn't already exist here.) The South West of Spain is the home of e.g. Jerez, most of Germany's wine production is situated in the South West of Germany, and the South West of United States a.k.a. California is home to most of the wine production of the US. Just to mention a few wine-related examples. Tomas e (talk) 14:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]