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I removed part of the lead section:

In 2019, founder Morris Dees was fired following accusations of [[sexual harassment]],<ref>{{Cite web |last=Moon |first=Josh |date=2019-03-15 |title=SPLC fires founder Morris Dees; internal emails highlight issues with harassment, discrimination |url=https://www.alreporter.com/2019/03/15/splc-fires-founder-morris-dees-internal-emails-highlight-issues-with-harassment-discrimination/ |access-date=2023-05-08 |website=Alabama Political Reporter |language=en-US}}</ref> which was followed by President [[J. Richard Cohen|Richard Cohen's]] resignation. An outside consultant, [[Tina Tchen]], was brought in to review workplace practices, particularly relating to accusations of racial and sexual harassment.<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/us/morris-dees-leaves-splc.html|title=Roiled by Staff Uproar, Civil Rights Group Looks at Intolerance Within|last1=Burch|first1=Audra D. S.|date=March 25, 2019|work=The New York Times|access-date=March 28, 2019|last2=Blinder|first2=Alan|language=en-US|issn=0362-4331|last3=Eligon|first3=John}}</ref> Margaret Huang, who was formerly the Chief Executive at [[Amnesty International USA]], was named as president and CEO of the SPLC in early February 2020.<ref name="montgomeryadvertiser_Lyman_2200203" />

The information is already in the article in the Southern_Poverty_Law_Center#Leadership_upheaval_amid_harassment_allegations section and the first sentence of the section below that. I do think the information should be included in the article (and it is reliably sourced), but I don't think it should be repeated in the lead section of an organisation that was started over 50 years ago. Thoughts? Polygnotus (talk) 04:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was probably more important when it happened, considering that Dees was the founder and had led the SPLC for its first 50 years. But as time passes, it becomes less important. TFD (talk) 07:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"groups that it classifies as"

@Hooky6: @Sideswipe9th: There was some disagreement about this edit in editsummaries; let's use the talkpage instead. Polygnotus (talk) 11:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you google "SPLC lawsuit KKK" you see a bunch of results. I think the statement in the article is referring to those lawsuits for example. Polygnotus (talk) 11:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Saying that the SPLC considers the KKK to be white supremacist violates MOS:DOUBT, because it implies that reasonable people may consider the KKK not to be white supremacist. TFD (talk) 11:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agrreed. Slatersteven (talk) 11:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto for the other incontrovertibly white supremacist organizations that SPLC has clashed with. Good revert. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:26, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know much about reasonable people but here is a reliable source that calls the KKK a "white supremacist movement". https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jul/14/ku-klux-klan-white-supremacy-tv-review Polygnotus (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am requesting an edit to change all instances of the name "Joseph J. Levin Jr." to a link for his upcoming Wikipedia page, which currently redirects here (Joseph J. Levin Jr.). On Help:Starting a new page, it is suggested that before starting a new page, we first create a red link so that "right from the start, the page will be linked from at least one other place on the wiki."

Given that his most well-known achievement is the creation of the SPLC, and that both other founders have their own pages, it seems that placing the link on this page would be the best place to start. Thank you! Neugeou (talk) 03:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Per MOS:CIRCULAR, wikilinks that redirect back to the current page should not be added. The link can be added after the page has been written. Liu1126 (talk) 11:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Poverty Palace"

Is "The organization has also been accused of an overindulgent use of funds, leading some employees to call its headquarters "Poverty Palace".^[1]" due for inclusion in the lead? Or should the bit about "leading some employees to call its headquarters "Poverty Palace"" be removed from the lead? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Moser, Bob (March 21, 2019). "The Reckoning of Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center". The New Yorker. Retrieved June 22, 2020. In 1995, the Montgomery Advertiser had been a Pulitzer finalist for a series that documented, among other things, staffers' allegations of racial discrimination within the organization.

Phrase "Lawsuits and criticism against the SPLC"

Not idiomatic. One usually says "criticism OF something". 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8D78:DB04:3DF6:79B4 (talk) 20:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[NYker_Moser_Reckoning_20190325-1] Moser, Bob (March 21, 2019). "The Reckoning of Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center". The New Yorker. Retrieved June 22, 2020. In 1995, the Montgomery Advertiser had been a Pulitzer finalist for a series that documented, among other things, staffers' allegations of racial discrimination within the organization.

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