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Nightmares in the Sky

Would there be a way to add the book Nightmares in the Sky, a coffee table book that King wrote, to the King bibliography table?

Bachman photo

Does anyone know who the person on the Richard Bachman photo is? Entheta 18:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Swithen

The Swithen link links to this article, so there's no reason for it to be a link.

Family Jewels?

I've never done this before so am leaving it to someone who knows what they are doing but there's a section which I presume is supposed to be about Stephen Kings family which someone has messed up. 02/11/2006 (That's the English version of the date you lot!) 212.85.12.187 18:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

References

The references and citations in this article are screwed up. I cited a source for King throwing away the manuscript to Carrie, but the References section is not properly tagged. I don't have time to get to it right away, as I have to get to work, but I'll come back to this tonight or tomorrow if no one else fixes it by then. -- Kesh 19:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Using some idle time to fix the references. This whole page needs a lot more citation, though. That will have to wait until later. -- Kesh 22:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I moved the references to the bottom and put them in one section, but they could still use some formatting, and it still needs a lot more citations. Additionally, I noticed that most of the first section is lifted right from the first reference, http://people.monstersandcritics.com/archive/peoplearchive.php/Stephen_King/biog. --Insane 20:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning that up! I'm still getting the hang of which cite/ref tags to use when. That looks a lot better. -- Kesh 20:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, if you view the website in question, it states at the bottom that a portion (It doesn't state how much was used) of its information was taken from the Wikipedia article, just an interesting note. -- Anonymous

Well, we can't cite an article that cites us...where does the information actually come from? --Temporarily Insane (talk) 15:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Whoever removed my reference to his book "Lisey's Story" should be banned. It's VERY relevant, in context and in Page Numbering

Heinlein

I added the Heinlein bit to the Influences section. I was careful to include only that which was apparant from reading the novels rather than saying outright that he was homaging Heinlein because I didn't have a reference for that. The fact that he actually dropped Heinlein's name when he was doing it makes it bloody obvious as hell, but I figured someone might be nitpicky if I tried to give any indication of King's thoughts without a citation. :) AlexMc 09:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I also dunno if that bit is deserving of a spoiler tag. I don't think so, but someone might disagree. Also, the book The Number of the Beast has a Wikipedia entry, but it's a disambuguation and I dunno how to link to it. AlexMc 09:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Use pipe syntax. Edit this section to see how I did it: The Number of the Beast. --Insane 20:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Heinlein thus be listed in the author info bar under its "Influences" section as well? I'll have to look at some of the intros King penned later, but I feel certain he explicitly mentions Heinlein as an influence several times. Exerda 19:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Picture/Image

Can we get a picture/image for this guy? That would really help out its rating a ton. -Kevin (TALK) 21:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Batman intro

Under "recent years", the article gives two incidents of King writing content specifically for comic books before october 2005. There is a third: he wrote a preface for Batman #400, anniversery issue. Not sure where to find a source for this information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.177.38.246 (talk) 20:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

Nevermind, this information is currently under "trivia". Though it could stand to be moved.. 67.177.38.246 20:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Dark Tower comic

I didn't want to make such a big edit, not being very experienced on Wikipedia, but Stephen King isn't actually writing the Dark Tower comic. He was involved in the planning, and coming up with the storylines, though. This quote from an interview with Joe Quesada explains Stephen King's involvement with the project (but I can't find the original interview, I'm afraid):

"When Mr. King came to the offices – and yes, I totally fan-boyed out on him, we had a meeting to discuss story ideas, and during that, he started thinking about what kinds of Dark Tower stories he could tell, and where things were left untouched. There were a few of us from Marvel, Mr. King, his agent, and on the phone was Robin Furth. Robin is pretty much the keeper of the Grail when it comes to The Dark Tower – in comic terms, she’s the continuity cop for the series, and has written the official Concordances on the series, which track all the characters, the lands, the history – everything.

Mr. King just kind of looked up at the ceiling, and off the top of his head, started rattling off stories and stories and stories. He was telling about parts where Roland would go and do this and such, and then meet the villain here, and on and on. Literally, in ten minutes, he rattled off enough stories fill up roughly four or five trade paperbacks. He just did it offhand – the stories just poured out of him, and all of them middle, beginnings and ends. It was amazing to watch, and basically, hear Stephen King tell us original stories that no one, before then had ever heard before.

Of course, on the phone, you could hear Robin typing madly, trying to keep up.

NRAMA: So – mixing this with the creative process – how does the string of stories become what, I presume, will be several projects?

JQ: Right – there will be more than one. After he told the stories, Robin encapsulated them all and has done her best to break them down into issue-by-issue chunks. After she’s done that, I took a pass at it and broke things down into page-by-page structure to give to Jae – something written in the Marvel style. From there, Jae and Richard Isanove will be collaborating on it to produce the look that they’re famous for when they get together. And of course Mr. King was involved each step of the way."

Rolnikov 12:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone should add a section...

...listing and linking all the film adaptions of King's works, similar to the filmography section many actors have on here. Right now, the "films" section isn't much different then a trivia section. DocRocks1 21:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Since every one of them seem to have an article, there's a category that covers it: Category:Films based on Stephen King's works. Kuru talk 00:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Doc is right though about the 'triviality' of section. While the films section does not need to be a full fledged filmography, it does deserve a little sprucing up. Certainly some kind of list with links to each article, possibly in a nice table would be sufficient. Stick the related trivia in a column for the movie it applies to. It would look a whole lot better, and be much more user-friendly.–m.f (t • c) 10:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I've added a table of the major movies and miniseries based on King's works, and not things he's written specifically for the screen, nor the Dollar Baby efforts. Feel free to edit it, but preferably don't add too much to it. The random trivia stuff that applies to those movies could go up into the list, but we'll still have the other trivia, which could be kept in its own little list (since it's about King himself). This is all I can do for now. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 02:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Dean Koontz Trivia

Just an interesting thought you might want to add on the Stephen King page:

In Dean Koontz's Velocity, a minor character in the book has the same name as a minor character in Stephen King's From a Buick 8 - Jackie O'Hara. The characters don't seem to have any similarities other than their names, and possibly what can be infered from the name; that they are both Irish. I'm not an expert on Irish names, so Jackie O'Hara could be a common name. It might even be an inside joke within a small group of authors. Whatever the cause, just thought I'd let you know.

68.43.129.184 23:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S., I put the same note on the Dean Koontz discussion page.

I don't think it has any relevance to either author's page. The similarity exists, yes, but it's not notable unless they were actually the same character. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 01:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Lovecraft..Nyarlohotep

Er, I think it should be mentioned that Stephen King often in his narration draws parallels between Flagg and the Nyarlohotep, and I think somewhere in the stand Flagg is called Nyarlohotep... Elementalos 05:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

    • You mean "Nyarlathotep?" This particular reference is of no significance. However, King very frequently references Lovecraftian extra-dimensional beings in his work, seemingly as nods towards the man's work. One might argue that he often tries for Lovecraftian monsters: note Pennywise's true appearance in "It," which was summed up to be incomprehensible to the human mind, a thing approximated as a giant spider.

Who is "Weber"?

Maybe I missed something in this article... several times Stephen King is referred to as "Weber," which appears to be the name of one of his sons...

Is this an alias or a mistake on the part of whoever composed this article? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raemarie.stack (talk • contribs) 21:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Nope. It was vandalism that has since been reverted. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 21:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Addiction

I removed information re: King's drug use, per no citations. Let's not list drugs used unless we can verify this, agreed?--'oac' (old american century) | Talk 21:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll have to dig into On Writing later; there are definitely some possible cites there to his drug use. I do prefer online citations vs. print ones for reasons of hypertext, but certainly King's own description of his additiction from there would be a valid cite. Exerda 19:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
The only specific drug I can remember him stating he used was cocaine, he flat out states that when he wasn't drunk he was coked out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.198.241.67 (talk) 16:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
King was interviewed for Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments, and he stated that he was excited to have Kubrick direct The Shining, because King had seen 2001: A Space Odyssey while on acid.Blackngold29 20:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

bibliography

why is there no bibliography of his works on the page? (or even linking from it. if there is, it isn't prominent enough, as I can't find it). Barbara Osgood 23:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe because it would be too extensive. Right now you navigate around from the listings in Stephen King#The books to find that information. — Laura Scudder ☎ 23:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
There is a bibliography template at the very bottom of the page. Kuru talk 23:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah, the article's so long I didn't actually look all the way down there. — Laura Scudder ☎ 00:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm.. there should be a bibliography in the article, at least of the novels. It's not *that* extensive, and is common policy for author articles. Barbara Osgood 09:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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religion

given that king often uses religious subtext or outright religious stories, anyone got any clue about his religion? and how it influence him—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.98.232 (talk) 00:55, June 15, 2007

King has always been ambiguous about his faith. I don't believe he's ever directly stated what he follows. -- Kesh 01:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure he's Christian, cause I remember reading in the preface to one of his books something similar to the following. He was talking about The Green Mile, saying he picked John Coffey's initials based on "a famous JC." I'll try to remember to post it up here if I find it again. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
A lot of his stories do deal with the Christian faith but I think making assumptions on his religion because of that is original research, although I think he's probably Christian as well..--CyberGhostface 22:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I think he said "I have no use for formal religion" in some preface or another. Or was that Dave Barry? Hmmm--Ellissound 03:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The F.A.Q on his site about Religion 'Stephen was raised as a Methodist and attended church regularly in his youth. He no longer attends church, but he does believe in God and reads the Bible. Tabitha, his wife, was raised as a Catholic.' http://www.stephenking.com/pages/FAQ/Stephen_King/religion.php 86.42.200.50 21:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)Tom

Influences

I remember reading an biography of Stephen that the "Twilight Zone" (original) and the "Outer Limits" were inspirations for some of his work. I remember this because these are my favourite shows also.

-G—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.143.191 (talk) 04:07, June 22, 2007

Is This Really Stephen King??

My wife has a collection of short stories put out by Forest Hills publishing called Cries From The Gravediggers Well: 25 Tales Of Horror! One of the stories in it is called "The Foster Father's Ring" The author of this story is credited as S.S. King. It is written in the style of King's, and I was wondering if anyone knew if it was his, and if we should list it in his short stoires section.--Fernwood 00:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

There are a lot of people with the last name of King, and a lot of people who have similar styles. Since Stephen King's middle name does not start with an S, I wouldn't mention it unless you can find a good source. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Kingdom Hospital

This is stated as having been written by King, it is actually an adaptation of Riget written by Tómas Gislason, Lars von Trier and Niels Vørsel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.10.97 (talk)

What's your source? --Temporarily Insane (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Its actually common knowledge. Although, while Hospital is based on Riget, its still vastly different and a lot of it was invented by King. (For example, the anteater and the artist are both exclusive to King's)--CyberGhostface 18:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem

In the article it states that Roland Deschain saves King from being hit by the van, when in actuality, it was John "Jake" Chambers that saves him. Roland is too overcome by pain, and cannot reach him while Jake "never hesitated", and blocks him from the van, as they are both hit. Although in a general sense, Roland saved him, I beleive the article is misleading.

24.58.205.228 20:38, 21 July 2007 (UTC)NJ

Ethnicity

Im trying to research Kings ethnicity to see if he's Irish-American. Anyone know? Thanks


According to the bio at his website, King is of Scots-Irish ancestry.


Seung-Hui Cho

The following sentence doesn't make sense - "On April 20, 2007, Entertainment Weekly asked King if he felt there was a correlation between Seung-Hui Cho's writing and the Virginia Tech massacre." Perhaps this is supposed to be 'King's writing and the Virginia Tech massacre'? It isn't cited, so I don't want to make the edit myself. Nosferatublue 19:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

No, it makes perfect sense and is correct. Cho Seung-Hui wrote a script for a play which was leaked through various media outlets. Steven King was asked if, as a writer, he thought that Cho's writings had any correlation with his violent actions. 58.165.243.211 04:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Possible Book Spoiler

Under the Biography->Car Accident section, there is a paragraph that seems to contain spoiler information. It's currently the last paragraph and reads:

King incorporated his accident into the final novel of his Dark Tower series, in which the character Jake Chambers prevents a fictionalized version of King from being fatally injured by the van.

Now, I write this largely because I'm about half way through book six, and this feels like a major spoiler. It may, however, be a minor plot point and no action to the article would be appropriate. If it is a major plot point, should there be some sort of spoiler disclaimer somewhere? The surprise may have been ruined for me, but I'd like to prevent that from happening to others, if possible. --Nospoil 14:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's actually quite a large plot point, and I can see where it could be a problem. I agree that there should be a spoiler warning.
Paulbkirk 15:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
There was a huge debate some time ago about whether spoiler tags were acceptable to use on Wikipedia. This article used to have spoiler tags around that small paragraph, but they were removed a while ago. But as to whether they should be readded, see: WP:SPOILER#Should this article contain spoilers? As for whether this particular example is a spoiler, I agree. It should at least mention Roland, and say only that they have to attempt to prevent King from dying. This much is not a surprise within the story, as I recall. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

New Article listing recurring characters and/or places?

Just a suggestion, since it seems the vast majority of King's books seem to contain one reference or another to his past works (Cujo; Salem's Lot in Pet Semetary, Salem's Lot; It in Dreamcatcher, Gerald's Game/Dolores Clairborn, etc etc). Any takers? Fullmetaljacuzzi 23:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess if we did do it we'd have to make it completely cited and avoid original research like "In this book, so and so's security number adds up to 19" or "In this book, the guy's intials are the same as Roland Deschain's" and so forth.--CyberGhostface 23:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Well that's a little more detailed than what I originally envisioned, I was more thinking of a chronological listing of his work and what outside characters/events/places are mentioned in that book. Similar to the Connections in the Needful Things listing: Needful_Things#Connections Fullmetaljacuzzi 00:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Chronological list?

Is there a specific reason why there is not a chronological listing of his novels? Most, if not all writers have one. I came here looking for a fact (list of all novels written up to and including The Stand), but that information is unfortunately not available here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.155.170 (talk) 01:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Haruki Murakami

There is no empirical evidence stating Stephen King's penny-dreadful writing had any sort of influence over the writings of Haruki Murakami, an established and respected Japanese writer whose works have received numerous literary merits. The claim is not only risible and completely unfounded, but as well utterly absurd to entertain. I have removed the name from the list of people King has influenced, and unless anyone can prove me wrong and show me evidence that says the master of pastiche, Stephen King, influenced Murakami, the section ought not to be altered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tenchi2 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Protection

Why can I not edit this page as I am a registered user? The dates need to be formated to those who use the day before the month. Thanks ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Humain-comme (talk • contribs) 04:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Your account must be four days old before you can edit semi-protected articles. See WP:PROTECT. Kuru talk 12:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the explaination. I don't understand why Stephen King should be protected, but there must be a reason I do not understand yet. :-/ --Humain-comme 22:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
There was a fairly heavy run of some rather profane and libelous vandalism in June. Since that was quite some time ago, I've taken the protection off for now; we'll see how it goes. Kuru talk 23:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
When Humain-comme first posted, I looked for an explanation and could not find one. Shouldn't we have been able to read why here? (John User:Jwy talk) 00:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
You can go to the page history and select the view logs link to see a summary a 'non edit' actions for the article, such as protections and moves. There is also a line added to the edit history itself. Kuru talk 13:00, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Signature

Why do I care for Stephen King's signature? (except if I were involved in some sort of illegal activities with the man.) 68.183.29.224 23:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Dark Tower spoiler in car accident section

I know wikipedia contains spoilers, but there's a very good chance someone could look up Stephen King and see such a major plot point. There's no reason to expect in this article as its about King himself and not of any his specific works...--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more... thanks a lot. I'm currently in the middle of "Wolves of the Calla" and I'm glad I checked out this page before I read the main page. Thanks for helping me avoid a spoiler!--Senna27 (talk) 01:58, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help, and hope you're enjoying the series. :) (Although I'd reccomend you stay off Wikipedia just to be safe)--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't want to the edit the page in case there are actual procedures to follow, however, Liljas-library homepage http://www.liljas-library.com/accident.html is broken.

Dumas influence attribution or clarification?

Alexandre Dumas is cited in the sidebar as an influence on "Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption," and a picture of Dumas is shown next to the influences section of the main article (cited again as an influence in its caption), despite going unmentioned in the main text. Should this be removed, or if valid, clarified? Based on only a superficial knowledge of Dumas, RH&SR has some traits in common with the plot of the Count of Monte Cristo, at least; but is there any record of King citing Dumas' influence--his primary small-town horror work seems particularly removed from Dumas and his swashbuckling epics.

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Please don't make blank requests. GABgab 15:34, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Old Book Sales Figures

The book sales figures are from 2006. I'm sure that there is a better estimate than the one from a decade ago. If anyone can find a better one, then that person should also update the list of best selling fiction authors also. GeoffreyZanders (talk) 01:23, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

To emphasize my point, this article[1] from publisher's weekly suggests that Stephen King has sold at least 600,000 books in 2014 alone. GeoffreyZanders (talk) 20:44, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Steven King Dead? no

This Slashdot post claims Stephen King is dead:

https://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9747767&cid=53031433

Is this true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.217.118 (talk) 15:10, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

There are no reliable sources indicating he has died at this time. 331dot (talk) 20:35, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
He also sent a tweet four hours ago. Beware of blog posts. 331dot (talk) 20:38, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2017

The Shawshank Redemption is NOT widely regarded as the best film of all time by a long way.The citations don't back up this claim and even the main Wikipedia article says ("The Shawshank Redemption") says only that it's "greatest films of the 1990s" which should be the edit 5.156.69.244 (talk) 06:51, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

 Not done--It's not stated that Shawshank Redemption is the greatest film of all time, instead, Wikipedia states the film to be one of the greatest which is indeed true.Winged Blades Godric 16:34, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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Greatest

I would like to edit the Stephen King page, but apparently this page is in a special category. Maybe that's why it's so ridiculously LONG??? Anyway, near the top someone has claimed(acclaimed) that "The Shawshank Redemption" is "widely regarded(!) as one of the greatest films of all time." Aside from the fact that this merely someone's opinion, it's also utter B.S. Any way to get rid of it? Chrisinmaine (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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Naomi King

I see Tabitha Kings article list all 3 children's names. I edited this page to match. Saying 3 of something but then only listing 2 seemed a little off. ContentEditman (talk) 01:19, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Mentioning of a Lovecraft work

I think the story name mentioned in the article is wrong. "The Lurker in the Shadows" should be "The Lurker at the Treshold". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.250.83.116 (talk) 20:21, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Except that The Lurker in the Shadows is mentioned as a collection. The Lurker at the Threshold is a novel.--WizWheatly (ftaghn) 14:18, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
I brought this up, albeit as an edit summary here and here, for exactly the same reason - the book The Lurker in the Shadows doesn't exist even as a collection. Despite a lot of googling and researching, I'm convinced King means The Lurker at the Threshold, but as he says otherwise, I changed the text to "he remembers as". The Lurker at the Threshold is (according to that tome of all wisdom Wikipedia) "based on short fragments written by H. P. Lovecraft" so it still could be interpreted as "short stories". Chaheel Riens (talk) 16:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
It's likely his memory has conflated it with another title. The only genre work by that name is a short story by Nathan Carson from 2015.[2].--WizWheatly (ftaghn) 19:55, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
The cover art he describes somewhat matches a cover from The Lurking Fear and Other Stories(1947) [3]--WizWheatly (ftaghn) 20:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Agreed. It seems evident that whatever book King read it wasn't The Lurker in the Shadows - but as that's a sourced entry and we can't make assumptions on what he really meant, we have to state it as well - which is why I qualified it with "remembers as".
Also, who are we to correct King? Do we dare? Who knows what terrible things may happen to characters with our names in his next work... Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:46, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Pickman

Whilst we're here, I was listening to the audiobook of IT and noted a reference to a "Pickman, the one that drank all night and did those weird paintings" during the section related to the deaths of the Bradley gang. This looks a lot like a reference to the Lovecraft character Robert Upton Pickman of Pickman's Model does it not? 93.145.221.210 (talk) 13:46, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Stephen King as religious

I've made an edit where I clarified King's stated view's on religion and God. The former article was incredibly misleading, as it stated that King "was raised Methodist and remains religious as an adult". The first part is true, but the second part is patently untrue, as the source itself states:

"In a rare and lengthy question and answer session published in the print edition of Rolling Stone, King laid out how he “grew up in a Methodist church”, but how he “had doubts” about organised religion ever since he was a child, and how “once I got through high school, that was it for me”. Nevertheless, said the bestselling novelist, he chooses to believe in God “because it makes things better. You have a meditation point, a source of strength”. He told Rolling Stone: “I choose to believe that God exists, and therefore I can say, ‘God, I can’t do this by myself. Help me not to take a drink today. Help me not to take a drug today.’ And that works fine for me.”

I think this actually makes him an agnostic theist, but felt maybe adding that to the article was going to far. Perhaps someone higher up the wikichain can make that decision? Urabutbl (talk) 08:28, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Stephen King and the train

I have read On Writing (I still have a physical copy somewhere in my house) and he does mention the train killing his friend, at least in the newer edition in the book. Currently, the article says that he doesn't mention it, but he does. He says something along the lines of that he was told that it had happened, even though he doesn't remember it himself. I could try to find the book and page number, if it helps. Clovermoss (talk) 01:30, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Dancing on a grave?

It seems there is a lack of 'nuance' in a paragraph in section Car accident and aftermath:

The driver of the vehicle that struck King, Bryan Edwin Smith, was found dead at his Maine home in September 2000 in an apparent suicide.[167][failed verification] Smith had told friends shortly before that he "could not face another winter".[168]

This is actually a very good illustration of lack of balance due to 'recency', referencing only news articles too close to the event.

Note that the two cites are dated September 25, 2000 (dead link) and September 27, 2000, and reporting not even two weeks after Smith died. Thus conjectures both explicit and implicit were put forward as 'explanation', or 'mystery'.

If one looks at news articles reporting after the state medical examiner's determination December 7, 2000, December 6, 2000 you see

... died in September of an accidental overdose of the painkiller Fentanyl.

So, let's check article history. At least someone noticed the cite didn't even say suicide. Oh, it's a recent boost to our esteem?

I'll delete the added paragraph and point out to that editor that the whole story is better than a sensationalist half-story. Shenme (talk) 03:45, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2019

This article states that he graduated from Lisbon Falls High School when he actually graduated from Lisbon High School. 216.107.214.23 (talk) 06:37, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Source indicates Lisbon Falls.--Goldsztajn (talk) 12:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Use of Roger Ebert's comments

Ebert may not be known as a literary reviewer, but he is well established and widely acknowledged to be one of the most influential critics of the modern review. If he sees fit to comment on King's literary style and the merit of his books it is certainly worth a mention in the article. The context is acceptable - the commentary was made at the same time as Ebert reviewed a movie and is a perfectly acceptable statement. Just because Ebert is not most famous for literary reviews doesn't mean he cannot comment with reasonable authority and expertise on other forms of media.

Please make your case for the removal here, rather than edit warring - Bold, revert, discuss. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm not involved in the current editing on the issue, but that comment seems to be a lot more about Roger Ebert than it is about Stephen King. I don't know that it adds a lot to the article on King. Canada Hky (talk) 18:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Seems fair to remove. There are literally hundreds of literary reviewers is would be more appropriate to quote, and I think it adds very little to the article. It's more a comment on Ebert's misguided snobbery.Doctorhawkes (talk) 21:33, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Let's remove it. That section should be reserved for literary critics, not other celebrities.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 20:22, 25 September 2019 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

Naomi's lesbian partner

Why is it relevant to call Naomi's partner 'her lesbian partner'? Does she also have a non-lesbian partner or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.252.94.153 (talk) 20:57, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Writing Style and Approach section

There is nothing relating to the style, per se, of King’s writing in this section. Considerations of King’s style or more precisely his lack thereof belong in the “Criticism” section. There the subject is incidentally alluded to in the quotation from Bloom. It is, in fact, King’s apparent indifference to developing an individual style that underlies the academic “elite’s” indifference to King. In particular King is on record as stating that the traditional aspect of narrative “mood,” does not figure in his writing. Orthotox (talk) 02:35, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

if it bleeds

Is it time for the upcoming novella collection If It Bleeds to get its own wiki page yet? Information on the content (titles and loglines for each story), cover art, and release dates have all been publicly revealed - as of a couple of months ago2001:8003:4C22:5B01:35B4:AED1:DBE2:6049 (talk) 04:15, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Acting

The article seriously overlooks his acting experience. It mentions two cameo roles, but he's had a lot more than that, mostly of course in movies and TV series based on his books and stories. He had a bit part in Knightriders (which is not based on his own writing) and was the main actor in one segment of Creepshow, as well as cameos or small parts in Creepshow 2, Pet Sematary, Golden Years, Sleepwalkers, The Stand, The Langoliers, Thinner, The Shining (the 1997 miniseries, not the Kubrick film), Storm of the Century, Rose Red, Kingdom Hospital, Under the Dome, Mr. Mercedes, and so on. —Mahāgaja · talk 08:08, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

He also had a part in at least one episode of Sons of Anarchy. I remember the advertising, but I never watched the show, so can't comment on the size of his role.Robbmonster (talk) 02:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
It is not "seriously overlooked". He has never been a serious actor, and his notability in acting is minuscule compared to his writing. Adding more would violate WP:WEIGHT. Sundayclose (talk) 17:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree. Doctorhawkes (talk) 01:20, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Guitars

I've just discovered that King signed each of a limited run of 250 acoustic guitars made by the luthier Bob Taylor, made from the wood of the walnut tree which featured in the film Cujo, and have added a note to this effect to the "Music" section of this article. Meltingpot (talk) 23:12, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

@Meltingpot: New sections go at the bottom of the talk page. Also, would you please provide an explanation or links in your edits tagged here that the average reader of an encyclopedia would not understand? Sundayclose (talk) 01:05, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi there,

I don't know either, unfortunately. Dreadnought and GA refer to guitar body styles, but it's not a topic I'm familiar with. I'll see if I can work this article into the piece.

https://blog.taylorguitars.com/buyers-resources/an-introduction-to-taylor-acoustic-guitar-body-shapes

Meltingpot (talk) 22:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Meltingpot: You added it without knowing what it means???. Sundayclose (talk) 23:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Sure. Please remember that before I came along there was no mention at all in this article of Stephen's involvement in the project. People more knowledgeable than me about the subject can always change the article if I got something wrong. Meltingpot (talk) 07:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Meltingpot: I disagree with your unconventional editing style. You should find the information before you add it to the article, or you reword it so that the confusing terminology is not in the article. Feel free to do so. Simply adding something so that "people more knowledgeable than me" can fix it because you don't want to go the the trouble is unacceptable. Sundayclose (talk) 5:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

To be honest, you do have a point about that. However, in response to your earlier comments I included references from Taylor Guitars' own site which explained what GA meant, because there's no entry for it on Wikipedia (it's the company's own terminology), and a link within the text which explained what a dreadnought body style was; and still my addition got reverted. I don't honestly know what else you expect me to do. Meltingpot (talk) 18:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is written for readers, not editors. A reader shouldn't have to find the source, read that GA means "grand auditorium" (with no additional explanation) to try to figure out what you wrote. Then when I inquired, you wrote "I don't know either". That's sloppy writing. Sundayclose (talk) 18:18, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

No, you're missing the point of what I've said. I accept that I didn't originally provide any explanation of what a dreadnought or GA body style was, or a link to an article which would explain this, and that I should have done; so sorry. However, I have since made the changes you've suggested, at least to the best of my ability. So is there any chance of my addition being restored please? Meltingpot (talk) 18:49, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

The major problem I have with restoring is if there's no more than a link to the manufacturer's website as an explanation for GA. "Grand auditorium" tells us nothing; if that's the manufacturer's terminology it has little relevance to King. As an analogy, if you had written something about a bass guitar with a link, I would have instantly been given a lot of detail about what a bass guitar is. I suggest leaving out GA altogether. Sundayclose (talk) 18:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I have found another link for it now, so I think it could go in according to what you've just said; https://sixstringacoustic.com/what-is-a-grand-auditorium-guitar-and-who-is-most-suited-to-this-type-of-guitar Meltingpot (talk) 19:03, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I won't quibble, but I prefer just leaving out specific details about types guitars. It really doesn't add anything to a section about King and music. King's involvement in music is interesting and worthy of inclusion in the article, but that is not his primary area of notability. If this was an article about a Paul McCartney or Chet Atkins (for example), the specifics about the guitars would be important. But not for King. This is an encyclopedia, not a comprehensive bio of King. For example, I found it interesting from the article that King owns radio stations, but I don't see the need for writing in detail about the types of programming on those stations. Sundayclose (talk) 19:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll get onto it later when I've found a good reference for the information (i.e. hopefully better than a mention in a forum).Meltingpot (talk) 15:44, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

His bibliography should be on the main page.

He is a writer so I think it would be respectful and more proper if his bibliography was on the main page and not just a link to a separate Wikipedia page. The list of movies should be moved elsewhere.

KilluaX3 (talk) 01:07, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with being respectful. Articles that are too large are problematic. See WP:AS and WP:SPLIT. King has been a prolific writer, much more so than the vast majority of writers. His bibliography is huge. At one time the bibliography was contained in his main article. As more detail was added to the article, the size became unwieldy, so his bibliography was split off into a separate article, as was the list of awards and nominations, also quite extensive. This main article has a bibliography section that links to the bibliography, so it's easy for readers to find. This is not unusual on Wikipedia. For example, many actors who have extensive filmographies have a separate article for their performances. Sundayclose (talk) 02:24, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Was Carrie or The Stand his 4th novel? Also, why not count novels published under his pen name?

Hi All, this is my first talk page, so my apologies if I do something wrong. Normally I just fix mistakes myself, but I'm not sure how to fix this one...

The article currently has both of these sentences:

"Carrie was King's fourth novel,[31] but it was the first to be published."

"The family returned to western Maine in 1975, where King completed his fourth novel, The Stand (published 1978)."

So at the very least something should be changed to clarify that The Stand was his fourth published novel. But even that is a little misleading, since the fourth novel King wrote was "Rage" (1977), which he published under the pen name Richard Bachman. I don't know if there's a consensus across Wikipedia for how to enumerate a writer's novels, but if not, it seems to me that the clearest way for his main bio would be to count all his novels, regardless of pen name, which would make The Stand his fifth published novel.

Seamus10101 (talk) 16:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

The 'Stephen King Bibliography' page includes them in chronological order, including the ones under his pen name, which would make The Stand his fifth published novel. I agree that it would be good to have a consistency throughout the page and between the two pages as well! MC-astro421 (talk) 12:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Why did Stephen King's father change his surname from Pollock to King? Was he Jewish?

Other notable Jews surnamed Pollock (or Pollack) are Friedrich Pollock, Griselda Pollock, Karen Pollock, Tom Pollock, F. H. Pollock, Doris Feinstein Pollock, Rachel Pollack, Andrew Pollack, Sydney Pollack, James B. Pollack, Martha E. Pollack, Kenneth M. Pollack, Gadi Pollack, Jeffrey Pollack, Moriz Pollack von Borkenau, Hunter Pollack, Hubert Pollack, Maurice Pollack, Milton Pollack, Jacob Pollak, Neal Pollack, Norman Pollack, Bernhard Pollack, Robert Pollack, Daniel Pollack, Ben Pollack, Harvey Pollack, Lew Pollack, Eunice G. Pollack and Danielle Pollack.

This would've been an unlikely omission by The Forward, but it's odd they note that Stephen was indeed born King, as if to say he's not like Jewish Irwin Alan Kniberg who changed his name to Alan King, while entirely missing the fact that Stephen's father did precisely so.[1] Alan King's adoption of the King surname also indicates that it is one some Jews have adopted (much like Carole King and Larry King), and passed on to their descendants (e.g. Poppy King, Hunter King, Zalman King and Aryeh King).

References

  1. ^ Rogovoy, Seth. "The Secret Jewish History Of Stephen King". The Forward. Retrieved 2021-11-04. Author Stephen King was really born with that name. Not for him the path from Irwin Alan Kniberg to Alan King.

— Guarapiranga ☎ 23:41, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Filmography

Why are many movies missing from Filmography? Cujo, Misery, Salem's Lot, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.10.178.70 (talk) 17:58, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

It looks like there needs to be some criteria defined for this list, or it would become as big as List of adaptations of works by Stephen King. My vote is to only list those films where King played an active role, such as director, producer, executive producer, screenwriter, and/or actor. GoingBatty (talk) 02:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Agreed. This list has always only included film and TV where King played a part, and it should remain that way. All of the other works that based on King's writing belong in List of adaptations of works by Stephen King. Rmaloney3 (talk) 17:20, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
@Rmaloney3: I added the criteria in a comment, and removed the entries that have no "Yes" marks. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:36, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2021

Just noticed did not see the Colorado kid on shows it was called Haven thank you 2601:247:C203:9C30:CF7:3C9C:A4B2:EA5 (talk) 02:37, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. We have a link to Haven in the See Also section. What exactly are you proposing we add? Feel free to reopen the request with proper formatting of your request Cannolis (talk) 05:58, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Therapy

I watched Gerald's Game recently, and it seemed clear the writer is familiar with the process of psychiatric therapy. I wonder if King has any published views on this from personal experience? Shtove (talk) 15:42, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Fourth novel

FYI
 – Added section header. GoingBatty (talk) 16:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Question - is Carrie or The Stand King's fourth novel? Currently both are listed as "his fourth novel" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.123.132.162 (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

The article states "Carrie was King's fourth novel, but it was the first to be published", which is consistent with Stephen King bibliography. I removed the description of The Stand being King's fourth novel to avoid the confusion you mentioned. GoingBatty (talk) 16:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2022

Hello, I would like to add my film, Rest Stop (written/directed by Dana Moe) to the Stephen King filmography.Thank you! Danamoe1 (talk) 21:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Audiobooks?

The list here just says Audiobooks. Is it supposed to be all his audiobooks or just audiobooks he's read? Either way, it's incomplete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JakeZucker (talk • contribs) 14:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Strange Paragraph

Utterly odd to devote an entire paragraph to King's food preferences ("King said he does not like oysters." "He said that he doesn't like lobster")??. And the material about his Lunchtime Gloop? How bizarre. I've never seen anything like this in any other biographical Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jersey Jan (talk • contribs) 18:03, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

I concur; that is a singularly odd paragraph. It is poorly written and is incoherent. BCC (talk) 03:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2022

On the Political Activism portion of his page, next to or under his comment on Bandera, I suggest adding a portion that mentions that he claims he did not know who Bandera was at the time and just went along with it. https://twitter.com/stephenking/status/1550118187840114695?s=46&t=QoNJBrJJSVah0mOA89K0HQ FinnGinn (talk) 20:45, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I will add it. Deltaspace42 (talk) 20:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Done. Deltaspace42 (talk) 21:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2022

In the “personal life”-section, after citation 171:69, it says “King drug and alcohol…” where it should be “King’s drug and alcohol…” 98.128.157.36 (talk) 11:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

maybe?

In the call Stephen King said ""You can always find things about people to pull them down.

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In the call, Stephen King said "You can always find things about people to pull them down. 2603:6011:9600:52C0:F471:688F:5BB5:AF34 (talk) 05:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Religion

The article says that "While no longer religious, he says he chooses to believe in the existence of God". A tweet by SK seems to deny it, though: see. Mere irony, or something the article should care of? g (talk) 00:50, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

SK does not say he is religious in the tweet, nor does he deny the existence of God, so your point is irrelevant, and without a reliable source that contradicts the article, the article doesn't need to "take care of" anything. In any event, it's not irony. It's satire. Sundayclose (talk) 01:07, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2023

The example of his signature on this page is a known forgery. It is not his signature. 119.224.18.129 (talk) 19:31, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Source? 331dot (talk) 19:54, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 Not done: What 331dot said. —Sirdog (talk) 05:25, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Military?

For a guy his age, he would have had to do something about the draft in order to avoid serving in Vietnam. His biography is inadquate sans discussion of that issue, which was the number one issue for healthy male heterosexuals in that era — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.27.38 (talk) 17:11, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

From his website:
> A draft board examination immediately post-graduation found him 4-F on grounds of high blood pressure, limited vision, flat feet, and punctured eardrums. Eratticus 05:30, 24 August 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eratticus (talk • contribs)
IP 216, your comment absurdly implies that 100% of males at the time were drafted. Not all healthy males were drafted. so even if he hadn't been 4-F he may not have been drafted. Sundayclose (talk) 01:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Nobody familiar with that era, as I am, would think or imply that 100 percent of males were drafted. But 100 percent of healthy males were concerned about the issue, as I was in law school (out of which I was drafted in June 1968). It was the biggest war of our lifetimes and the number one issue of the era. By the way, I'm sorry to hear King had poor vision and punctured eardrums, neither of which sound like fun. 216.49.27.38 (talk) 22:50, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
You didn't say he was "concerned about the issue" in your original comment. You said, "he would have to do something about the draft in order to avoid serving in Vietnam". I am very familiar with that era because I was eligible for the draft throughout the Vietnam war. There's a huge difference between being "concerned about" the draft and "doing something about the draft". If we weren't medically excluded, we had no options to "do something about the draft". All we could do was wait and see if we were drafted, but it was never a certainty that we would be drafted if we didn't "do something about the draft". King was in that very same situation. He had no options unless he had a medical excuse, so he didn't have to "do something about the draft". He would either be drafted or he would not. He couldn't "do something about the draft", unless he wanted to leave the country or go to prison in the event that he was drafted. So he did what all of us did. Wait and see if we were drafted, not "do something about the draft". So unlike your claim, his biography is not inadequate in terms of the draft. There's no need to explain anything about the draft if he wasn't drafted, and he wasn't. If I wrote my biography, I wouldn't state the I "did something about the draft" because I didn't have to do anything -- I simply wasn't drafted. To say that he had to "do something about the draft" unequivocally suggests that he did something to avoid the draft (or he was medically excused, which is not "doing something about the draft"). Without a shred of evidence that he somehow avoided the draft, it's absurd to say that he "had to do something about the draft". Sundayclose (talk) 00:03, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Friendship With Peter Straub

Straub and King collaborated on two novels, The Talisman and Black House. They were longtime friends and admirers of each other's work; Straub included King's "That Feeling, You Can Only Say What It Is In French" in the Library of America anthology American Fantastic Tales. Straub compared King favorably to Charles Dickens, and, after Straub's passing, King told The New York TImes "he was a better and more literary author than I was." (See Risen, Clay, "Peter Straub Literary Master of the Sueprnatural, Dies at 79." The New York Times.)

Does anyone know when and how King and Straub met? That would be worth adding to the pages of both authors. Charlie Faust (talk) 18:17, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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