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So, I'm getting some resistance on this edit by an IP.

It's not encyclopedic in tone.
It sounds like it was written by Namco PR, or ripped from a character bio. If so, it's a COPYVIO issue. If not, see above point.
It's unsourced.
We don't need a character section yet, barely 2 are known.

Input? I've seen ProtoDrake and Dissident93 contribute to the article recently. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 00:36, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I thought we don't use these types of lists unless it's a separate article. But those are normally for notable characters in established series, a new, original character in a Tales series shouldn't count. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 00:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I believe theyre okay in theory - see GA Tales of Graces. My problem is that there's very little content known for this game, and what is there, isn't written like an encyclopedia, and as you can see in my dif above, once you trim out all the fluff, there's like a sentence left, and it fits in the story section just fine. Sergecross73 msg me 00:50, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sergecross73: It's become a kind of standard practice for Tales articles, but you're right that this article does not have enough sourcable information to merit the section yet. I tried not to create one for Zestiria until plenty of characters and info had been revealed. --ProtoDrake (talk) 09:32, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's no set rule in tone. Basically what usually happens for new games is that we add the main characters in it's own article until the game gets closer to release date. After that, the characters get their own page as per usual. Unless Sergecross73 or someone else intends to create a page right now, there is absolutely no need to remove the main character section, especially when more characters are being announced. If you feel that it's not in encylopedic tone, do not be lazy then remove it entirely... Take the 5 minutes or less it takes to rewrite and improve the written article. Right now, all I see is poor handling of the situation IMO. The point about the COPYVIO is clear now unlike the edit history which is why I reverted Sergecross73's edit at the time. Since Sergecross73 is unwilling to improve the article, either myself or someone else will just add it again anyways with better and/or original wording. I completely disagree with how the main characters don't need its own section right now due to the fact that more characters will be announced shortly as per Namco standards. 27.96.204.95 (talk) 01:54, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No improvement is necessary at this time. We don't need a characters article or section yet. We know very little of the characters at the time, and it's summed up just fine as is. It's very standard practice to merge extremely short sections. Once we know more characters, and more about them, we'll soon it out to a dedicated section, and if the characters show independent notability, then it can be split out to an article. Sergecross73 msg me 03:00, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Your accusations of "laziness" are misguided as well. If you look at the page history, you'd see that after the characters section was removed wholesale by another editor, I was the one who restored some of it to the story section, which is the current version of the article I've reverted to. Sergecross73 msg me 03:12, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about being lazy, a guideline regarding this usually gets these type of character lists in game articles removed. (see WP:GAMECRUFT #6). I just don't see why we're arguing in favor of it here, and yet the same lists get removed on something like Zelda or the Witcher 3, despite them also having good sources about the characters. It's inconsistent and we should either allow more of these in other articles, or edit them on the Tales articles to be written in prose, which is the preferred way. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 05:10, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know, this is a year old discussion about the article in a much earlier state. May want to start up a new section on your current concerns, which are slightly different. Sergecross73 msg me 05:18, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I didn't even realize I had already commented on the same thing over a year ago. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 11:33, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place, but can someone give a source for Rangetsu being Rokurou's last name? I looked on every single news post I could find over multiple sites and I couldn't find it, nor could anyone I asked about it. I'm curious where it comes from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.205.42.153 (talk) 10:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Source for original Japanese voice cast

They can be found in the ending credits in-game. Homechallenge55 (talk) 21:33, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]