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Does Baldwin have a father?

I mean, only a mother is mentioned in the article. Is there some reason for this? What about her father? Without an explanation, it seems odd to mention one parent and not the other. 65.24.249.74 (talk) 14:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Her biography mentions that she was raised by her mother and maternal grandparents, and does not mention a father; perhaps her biological father was never a fixture in her life. — AMK1211talk! 16:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Although I'm guessing he may not be her father, this article mentions her mother being married to one, Yusuf Bin-Rella. Does anyone know if this is the same Yusuf who died in police custody, spurring an FBI investigation of the Edgerton Police after his death on August 16, 1977? I'm struggling to find any information on this. Thanks. 68.65.37.10 (talk) 17:03, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
As per the article referenced by the previous commenter, it seems far more likely that Baldwin's father would be Joseph Edward Baldwin Jr., mentioned in the article thus: "[Bin-Rella] married Joseph Edward Baldwin Jr. in 1961, but they divorced around the time of Baldwin’s birth." Exceat (talk) 21:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Temporary elimination of "Crime, drugs, and military section"

I've blanked this section for the time being because it was so badly written. I would suggest that someone interested in these aspects of Representative Baldwin's career rewrite the material so that it could at least pass as a freshman English course assignment. Badmintonhist (talk) 01:01, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Redundancy?

Isn't this sentence redundant: "In 2012, Baldwin became the first openly gay person and first openly LGBT person elected to the United States Senate." The G in LGBT stands for gay. The sentence could simply read: "In 2012, Baldwin became the first openly LGBT person elected to the United States Senate." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brmpbrmp (talk • contribs) 19:25, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Wisconsin assembly tenure

The term "partial birth abortion" is inflammatory. I changed it to its medical term "intact dilation and extraction."

Frankly, I question the relevance of including that vote but I chose to leave it for now.Dstern1 (talk) 14:49, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

I removed the sentence in question, which said she voted against making it illegal. The reference used only states that she introduced an amendment to the bill allowing exceptions for the mother's health.[1] Gobōnobo + c 16:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Verification of uncontested primary

There's a call-out for a citation for Ms. Baldwin's uncontested Democratic Senate primary. According to the Wisconsin Secretary of State's website, no other candidate received any significant share of the vote.[1] [2]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rah91360 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/Percentage%20Results_8.14.12%20primary.pdf
  2. ^ http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/results/2012/partisan-primary

Article incorrectly state she was 'first openly gay member of house of representatives'

The article states she was the first openly gay member of the house, but she was elected in 1996. Barney Frank was openly gay and elected to congress in the early 1980's. That is just off the top of my head. For some reason I can't edit the page to change this error. IF anything it should read that she was the first member of the house to be out as gay before her initial election to congress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.120.26 (talk) 03:24, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Removed outdated reference from intro

I took a five year old reference to Baldwin's voting record in the House out of the intro, since she's now coming up on the end of her first term in the Senate. It's still elsewhere in the article, but seemed odd to mention something so outdated in the intro paragraphs. Maybe someone can find a reference to information about her voting record in the Senate? Viciouslies (talk) 01:47, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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The following lines: In 2016, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce gave Baldwin a 32% cumulative score on "key business votes."[56] The Wisconsin GOP noted that in the view of the Chamber of Commerce, Baldwin therefore had "the worst record of any red-state Senator when it comes to jobs," Joe Manchin, for example, having earned a score of 59% and Joe Donnelly a score of 65%. "Senator Baldwin," wrote the Wisconsin GOP, "hovers closer to Senator Elizabeth Warren, who's at 31%."[57]

while being cited, are simply cited from a lobbyist group and should be removed. Nickolasnikolic (talk) 23:00, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

 Partly done: I removed the political attack. While the assessment is relevant and informative, the "analysis" of it by her political opponents is not Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:37, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Confusing sentence of firsts.

Right now the lead section includes the following:

She is the first openly gay woman elected to Congress, person elected to the Senate and non-incumbent candidate elected to the House of Representatives.

I'm assuming this is about her "firsts", but as written, it's as if it's saying that she is the "first person" ever elected to the Senate, which of course is wrong. I don't know enough about her to correct it, but I would appreciate it if someone who knows the fact could write this and keep in mind the readers who know nothing about her. Unschool 23:48, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

@Unschool: is this better? It's a bit clunky, but hopefully adds clarity. Marquardtika (talk) 02:27, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
@Marquardtika:Yes, thank you; it's much more clear what the meaning is now. However, it is, as you say, "clunky". What is your reaction to this?
Tammy Suzanne Green Baldwin (born February 11, 1962) is an American politician serving as the junior United States Senator from Wisconsin since 2013. A member of the Democratic Party, she previously served three terms in the Wisconsin Assembly, representing the 78th district, and from 1999 to 2013 represented Wisconsin's 2nd congressional district in the United States House of Representatives.
As a gay woman, Baldwin's electoral success has made history several times. In 1998, she became the first woman elected to represent Wisconsin in Congress,[1] as well as the first openly gay woman elected to Congress, from any state. And in 2012, Baldwin became the first openly gay person elected to the U.S. Senate.[2][3].
Now this version loses one thing—the fact that she is the first openly-gay-non-incumbent elected to Congress. Well, that's the least important of the list (IMHO), and losing it gives us a smoother lead. And that fact does not have to be deleted from the article; it just can be included below. What think you?Unschool 05:21, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I think your version looks good! Marquardtika (talk) 20:20, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks; per your comment, I've put it in. Unschool 04:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Antitrust, competition and corporate regulation section needs clarity

As currently written, this section singularly fails to mention its subject, which presumably is large tech companies.

· "these markets" — which markets?

· "these same companies" — which companies?

Exceat (talk) 09:11, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Grinberg, Emanuella (November 7, 2012). "Wisconsin's Tammy Baldwin is first openly gay person elected to Senate". CNN. Retrieved February 1, 2018.
  2. ^ Cogan, Marin (2007-12-20). "First Ladies". The New Republic. Retrieved 2018-06-28.
  3. ^ "Tammy Baldwin: Openly gay lawmaker could make history in Wisconsin U.S. Senate race - Chicago Tribune". Articles.chicagotribune.com. 2012-10-19. Retrieved 2012-11-07.

Lead image

Following suit with Dick Durbin and Bernie Sanders, these outdated official portraits from nearly a decade ago should be replaced with recent images. Here's some potential replacements and let's vote as to whether we should change the image. I personally prefer C. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Option A (current; 2013)
    Option A (current; 2013)
  • Option B (2017)
    Option B (2017)
  • Option C (2019)
    Option C (2019)
  • Option D (2019)
    Option D (2019)
  • Option E (2023)
    Option E (2023)
  • Option F (2023)
    Option F (2023)
  •  Comment: It's been three years and another better image option (more recent; looks professional has popped up). Look at Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, Beto O'Rourke, Jim Risch, Tulsi Gabbard and Mike Crapo. Their infoboxes aren't using outdated official portraits, they're using more recent/good quality/candid pics instead. The main rationale is either it's too outdated or the subject no longer looks similar today than they were when the lead pic was taken. Compare Baldwin's 2013 portrait (outdated) to the 2023 candid pic and you can tell she looks different. The main rationale is why Trump's portrait isn't being used in the 2024 election article too. This is about consistency. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:01, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

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