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Greek tragedy is the result of the influence of internal and external influences on society. The Greeks conquored the Cretians (maybe after the great flood) who also occupied the Levant area . The Cretians payed employees and the Greeks supported slavery. Upon the conquoring of Crete the Hitites (perhaps known on the street as ibn Haram or son of thief) conquored the Levant. Soon after slavery took hold. Tales of Thutmoses refusal in the Amarna texts to support the Cretians (Naharu the Hakim son of Ilu or El known on some streets as the Judge and others as the doctor) of the Levant in their battle with the Hitites further promoted slavery. Thutmose conquered the Hitites and boasts of the seized properties recorded at Karnak. Egypts great police action where the police kept all the loot. Upon the arrival of Moses the slave Egyptian rule retreated. Slavery became the way of life that always existed. In Greek ( prison and apartment) are one word. In ancient text the people of Crete charged rent. Obviously people that payed rent had income. The people of Crete went from renting apartments to being prisoners . Greek theatre would be considered (possibly malpractice by ancient egytian doctors) immoral by todays standards. Greek theatre probably led to the Roman coloseum and public murder for entertainment. Human rights totally went away at that point. Greek theatre was a reflection of society at that time in history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eloo64 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WorldCat Genres

Hello, I'm working with OCLC, and we are algorithmically generating data about different Genres, like notable Authors, Book, Movies, Subjects, Characters and Places. We have determined that this Wikipedia page has a close affintity to our detected Genere of tragedies. It might be useful to look at [1] for more information. Thanks. Maximilianklein (talk) 23:59, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Renaissance tragedy?

I propose merging what can be salvaged from Renaissance tragedy into this article. That article seems to be written as an essay, to contain fundamental errors (Renaissance tragedy predates Elizabethan drama, so could hardly have developed out of it, for example), to be non-encyclopaedic and to be limited to one region only. The categorisation of some types of tragedy might fit well here, I think. Comment, anyone? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing seems to have happened -- so I suggest that the merge banners be removed. Rwood128 (talk) 20:32, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While no-one has bothered over the last 3.5 years, that doesn't mean that it's not a good idea to merge, given the non-worldwide view, abscence of citations, most notable content already at target ... I'll merge ... Klbrain (talk) 16:49, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is it vandalism?

Someone put "basically anything where the main character(s) die" under the "Britian" section, is that vandalism or not?

76.27.210.111 (talk) 19:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wisely fixed back in December 2013 I note. I'm willing to assume good faith, as the statement itself has a truthful kernel. Nevertheless, stylistically the section is better without the unsourced 'own research'. Klbrain (talk) 16:55, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The novel? Ibsen?

Shouldn't there be some discussion of the novel, especially the major novels of Thomas Hardy, as well as a playwright like Ibsen? Rwood128 (talk) 23:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nietzsche removed

I don't in any way object to Nietzsche being removed from this article where he had been placed after Aristotle and Hegel under theories -- nor did I ever object to his inclusion. But I wonder why there is no discussion in the talk page about when and why he was taken out. Just curious. Another more recent and somewhat academically popular theory of tragedy is Walter Kaufmann's, which has been (unknowingly) repeated by others such as Daan Evers.Cdg1072 (talk) 22:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Darth Plagueis the Wise

Come on fellow r/prequelmemes members, Let's not do this. Wikipedia is not a meme platform. AI coolTIM (talk) 04:33, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wicked

I added wicked as an example but the reference was not valid, the source I uses said “ Wicked is an epic story, built along the lines of a Shakespearean or Greek tragedy” how is his not valid? Another source claimed “ “Wicked” might be the most feel-good tragedy of all time.” Saying it is a more minor tragedy but still is. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2011-dec-29-la-et-one-mans-wicked-20111229-story.html#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWicked%E2%80%9D%20might%20be%20the%20most,South%20Park%E2%80%9D%20written%20about%20it.

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS927US928&hl=en-US&q=Is+Wicked+a+tragedy%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwito8K8iPj8AhVmmGoFHZ6qCdUQzmd6BAgTEAY LuxembourgLover (talk) 00:18, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is the reference that you used and nowhere in it is the sentence you used. The two you've provided here use the term. I don't think the article needs a long list of items that have some aspects of tragedy in them but others may feel differently. MarnetteD|Talk 01:56, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That’s the source is used? I guess I used the wrong one. Sorry about that. I’ll wait to see if anyone else supports and adds it to the list. It is a big musical so I thought it could be added. LuxembourgLover (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Love 41.13.194.153 (talk) 17:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Road

I don't think that Cormac McCarthy's The Road fits into any definition of tragedy and think that it should be removed from examples of modern texts written in the tradition of tragedy. The source used doesn't at all argue for the novel being a tragedy and rather uses the word tragedy as a synonym for suffering. Laurencium07 (talk) 14:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]