Talk:VSCO girl
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Some suggestions for tone and style
[edit]Hi. I noticed a warning on this page a few days ago about issues with tone and style, so I spent some time thinking about this and came up with four recommendations to modify the article.
1) For the "Fashion Trends" section, maybe just call it "Fashion" and collapse all the sub-sections under it into just one paragraph. I re-wrote it below:
"As teenagers, this group is highly influenced by one another. VSCO girls can be spotted in oversized T-shirts and Nike Shorts, with the T-shirts covering the shorts like a dress. (use the Slate ref) Fashion interests brands yet show VSCO girls to be environmentally aware, too, as these include: Hydroflask water bottles, metal straws, Puka shell necklaces, Brandy Melville, Fjällräven backpacks, Burt’s Bees or Carmex lip balms, and white Vans , Crocs or Birkenstocks. (use the Seventeen ref) (use the New York Times ref)"
2) I recommend not including the information about the controversy and cost as reported on Fox Business. It feels like it may perpetuate stereotypes of a certain race and economic class.
3) For the "Associated Social Media" section, maybe just call it "Social Media" and collapse all the sub-sections under it into just one paragraph. I re-wrote it below:
"VSCO girls use all popular social media and can be seen using the #VSCOgirl hashtag on Instagram. VSCO girls Unite was one of the banners seen at a climate strike in Massachusetts in 2019. (use the Intercept ref). There are more than 422.4 million videos tagged #viscogirl on TikTok, most of them parodies. (use the New York Times ref). Other popular software includes YouTube for video uploads. (use the Buzzfeeed ref)"
4) Finally, should the "Environmental Concern" section be deleted since it’s already mentioned in both the intro and fashion paragraphs?
What does everyone think?
Thank you.
Native2050 (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Native2050: welcome to Wikipedia! In accordance with the bold, revert, discuss workflow, go ahead and make those changes! A few suggestions, if I may:
- If the first sentence (teens highly influencing each other) does not appear in any way, shape, or form in the sources, leave it out (the original research policy).
- The Fox Business quote is already attributed, so that should help somewhat. Do not delete; add sources! Avoid "punching down" not by shimmying around the elephant in the room but by providing more context: in Avocado toast § Political symbolism, a sense of scale by comparing toast prices to housing costs, as well as the social benefits of enjoying toast at a cafe (pre-pandemic, of course). As a general note, if the info is in a source with editorial oversight independent from the subject, Wikipedia includes it. Removing cited info without explaining what's wrong with the sources is a surefire way to irk editors. Wikipedia simply summarizes what those sources say. Its purpose means it reflects existing systemic biases.
- Rewrite should mention VSCO—'s in the name and too important to leave out. Nitpick: Youtube is a platform or website, not a software.
- The lede has to repeat what the body says; it serves as a summary of the entire article. And certainly, the environmental concerns contains info unique to that section. Better to merge it into § Brands.
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turtles
[edit]where's the part that says save the turtles
misogyny and other concerns
[edit]After looking VSCO girl up I concluded that the vsco girl trend may not originate from misogyny [1] but because of the endless parodies on "vsco girls" i feel like that's an element to consider when contributing to this article. A lot of the popularity of this trend between kids comes from people online making fun of girls who like certain things like the birkenstocks, hydroflasks and scrunchies. Particularly this line: "VSCO girls 'dress and act in a way that is nearly indistinguishable from one another'". this sounds negative to me and doesn't need to be in the article.
Also, a lot of the traits mentioned in the article like environmental concerns and caring about sea turtles in particular isn't necessarily a part of "being a VSCO girl" in my opinion and seems to come from parodies. ("save the turtles" joke often used to deride "VSCO girls").
I'm thinking that a few brands mentioned are way too specific to explain a whole group of people following a certain trend.
"VSCO girls use" -> "some VSCO girls use" or "things attributed to the VSCO girl include"
Lastly, a VSCO girl is not a "type" of person, it's an internet aesthetic, it doesn't include the personality traits of a person, or other unrelated interests. 2600:4040:A034:A300:284C:819A:306E:AF84 (talk) 02:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- "VSCO girls 'dress and act in a way that is nearly indistinguishable from one another" is a direct quote from a source that gets the point across pretty well, and I'm not inclined to remove it, but I did change some of the wording. Little better? --Roundish ⋆tc) 23:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
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