Talk:Vangteh

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Plea to keep page

Firstly, I would like to claim that the existence of Vangteh even in this present time. Please, refer to following links [1], [2], and [3]. Even though Vangteh is degraded down as a village level according to present political administrative system of the government, to which Vangteh is currently belonged, it was known as 'khua-pi" in the native language. "Khua" means "human abode, inhabitance" or even "city, town, village" in modern sense, and "pi" means "great or big". Please, notice that "khua" does not specify city or town or villege in native language. In this sense, Vangteh can be city or town or villege. However, as "pi" signifies her greatness, we can say that Vangteh is a great/big place or City in modern sense.

Secondly, concerning lack of printed sources in relation to her past, we should blame the past itself that no written system except oral traditions (sacred incantation, nursery poem, war song, etc.) was existed in the region (presently known as Chin state of Myanmar-Burma) till western missionaries introduced Roman script in early twenty century. However, her recent past is not too far to trace as such oral traditions could still be recited by many and also as some of present generation still retain their tribal religion until this present time in faithful commitment to their ancestors. In fact, within Vangteh herself, we can see at least one hundred households still preserve their ancestral religion, in which they practice annually reciting of all those oral traditions, in spite of the over-flooding of Christianity in the land.

Therefore, we cannot neglect the history of Vangteh just by blaming lack of printed reference according to the standard of modern society. As historians, we should also need to listen to those oral traditions of the natives to good enough extent when any printed materials are lack.

(to be continued) Khumpita 13:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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14:59, 31 Oct 2007 User:Khumpita edited (2,684 bytes) (Created page with Vangteh. Was once mispelled as Wunkate by a historian, following the mispronunciation of a Burman guide, and also is recorded sometime as Vangte by contempora...')
15:03, 31 Oct 2007 User:Khumpita edited (2,704 bytes)
15:10, 31 Oct 2007 User:Khumpita edited (2,706 bytes)
15:24, 31 Oct 2007 User:Redvers edited (2,688 bytes) (+clean-up tags)
16:05, 31 Oct 2007 User:Khumpita edited (2,665 bytes)
16:08, 31 Oct 2007 User:Khumpita edited (4,114 bytes)
16:09, 31 Oct 2007 User:VoABot II edited (2,665 bytes) (BOT - Reverted edits by Khumpita {information} to revision #168321785 by "Khumpita".)
16:16, 31 Oct 2007 User:Khumpita edited (4,114 bytes)
16:16, 31 Oct 2007 User:VoABot II edited (2,665 bytes) (BOT - Reverted edits by Khumpita {information} to revision #168322394 by "VoABot II".)
16:19, 31 Oct 2007 User:Khumpita edited (4,065 bytes)
20:00, 31 Oct 2007 User:Redvers edited (4,072 bytes) (Restore clean-up tags, redelete signature, add extra tags as article expands into the realms of crap)
22:22, 31 Oct 2007 User:Andyjsmith edited (4,232 bytes) (db as nonsense/hoax)
22:58, 31 Oct 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard deleted "Vangteh" ? (content was: {{db|Nonsense or hoax: there are no relevant ghits for "Vangteh" and none at all for "Guite Dynasty" or "Guite Uk-gam". No references. Article written...'')}}>
17:16, 4 Nov 2007 User:Khumpita edited (27,457 bytes) (Created page with Vangteh. Sometime being misspelled as Wunkate—it is probably a mispronunciation of Burmese guides when British came to the land for the first time—and als...)
17:32, 4 Nov 2007 User:Khumpita edited (27,580 bytes)
17:49, 4 Nov 2007 User:Khumpita edited (28,658 bytes)
18:14, 4 Nov 2007 User:Khumpita edited (28,651 bytes)
18:15, 4 Nov 2007 User:Khumpita edited (28,652 bytes)
23:28, 4 Nov 2007 User:Andyjsmith edited (28,848 bytes) (db as nonsense, unreferenced, spa, re-created)
00:02, 5 Nov 2007 User:Grandmasterka deleted "Vangteh" ? (content was: {{db|Nonsense or hoax: there are no relevant ghits for "Vangteh" and none at all for "Guite Dynasty" or "Guite Uk-gam". No references. Article written...'')}}>
08:53, 6 Nov 2007 User:Khumpita edited (10 bytes) (Created page with {{hangon}})
08:54, 6 Nov 2007 User:Academic Challenger deleted "Vangteh" ? (content was: {{hangon}})
08:55, 6 Nov 2007 User:Khumpita edited (65 bytes) (Created page with {{hangon}}Anthony Appleyard 13:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]
08:56, 6 Nov 2007 User:Arendedwinter edited (16 bytes) (Requesting speedy deletion (CSD A3). using TW)
08:56, 6 Nov 2007 User:Arendedwinter edited (removed hangon tag, no speedy on page (will be in a sec though))
08:58, 6 Nov 2007 User:Grandmasterka deleted "Vangteh" ? (content was: {{db-nocontent}})
17:36, 10 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard restored "Vangteh" ? (22 revision(s) restored)
17:38, 10 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard edited (29,062 bytes) (nominated for deletion: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vangteh)
18:04, 10 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard edited (28,714 bytes) (wikify somewhat)
02:10, 11 Nov 2007 User:Malcolmxl5 edited (28,770 bytes) (+ lead.)
02:15, 11 Nov 2007 User:Malcolmxl5 edited (28,838 bytes) (+ a little to lead.)
09:21, 11 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard edited (17,598 bytes) (?Notes - deleted because it duplicates the references)
10:02, 11 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard edited (16,539 bytes) (tidy, subheadings, put footnotes in the text, disentangle)
10:05, 11 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard edited (16,575 bytes) (ed)
10:08, 11 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard edited (16,588 bytes) (?Guite dynasty - ed)
10:15, 11 Nov 2007 User:Anthony Appleyard edited (16,543 bytes) (put some displaced text where it should be)

Anthony Appleyard 13:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's time to remove tag from Vangteh page??? Khumpita 15:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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