Talk:Vocal fry register

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I meant to write "confusing" not "c of using".68.150.86.232 (talk) 12:30, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

what is the etymology? this needs to be included.68.150.86.232 (talk) 12:32, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dictionary.com has a heading Origin of Vocal Fry you can check out. 49.181.248.205 (talk) 12:10, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regional obsession

With some eight milliard speaking people on the planet, why is this article seemingly obsessed with people of one particular sex in one particular country out of the ~195 countries out there? There are only twice as many native English speakers in America than India for example, so I would expect to see only twice as many descriptions of how Americans talk than the number of descriptions of how Indians talk. But I don't see this. I just see WP:UNDUE. Is it that Americans are the only ones making a special determined effort to exercise Vocal Fry? Or is it that Americans are the only ones making a special determined effort to publicate (sic) and promote the existence of this phenomenon through global media? If not, then the focus of the article should be on normal people, not just a localised minority. 49.181.248.205 (talk) 12:10, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Demonstration file

@SUM1 How exactly is the old demonstration better? It's poor quality and there is no clear separation between normal speaking voice and vocal fry. Spiralfeel (talk) 09:56, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Spiralfeel: The one you recorded, no offence, sounds like a joke (I thought it was one at first), and it technically isn't a portrayal of vocal fry, just a stereotypical imitation of a deep voice. The original one is an actual portrayal of vocal fry, and there's a perfectly clear distinction between the vocal fry and normal speech. · • SUM1 • · (talk) 23:24, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Would agree that the original File:Vocal_Fry.ogg still sounds like it has some vocal fry on the "and this is not". Spiralfeel's File:Vocalfrydemonstration.flac sounds too Don LaFontaine, though, it's misleading to suggest that some Americans might be talking like that in their day-to-day professional life.

I've replaced it with File:Vocal-Fry-May-Undermine-the-Success-of-Young-Women-in-the-Labor-Market-pone.0097506.s005.oga, which is a recording of a more normal speaking voice taken from a study into vocal fry. There are 28 variations of it on Commons, and it seemed like the best example after checking through a few of them. --Lord Belbury (talk) 12:46, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lord Belbury Very reasonable :), I meant to do a more extensive showcase which would include an everyday use, but I still haven't got round to it ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ Spiralfeel (talk) 20:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I guess one can’t add a funny YouTube video reference in the article? Anyway, just enjoy :) https://youtube.com/shorts/90uCZN8utcQ?feature=share — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geke (talk • contribs) 10:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]