Talk:Volkswagen

Volkswagen Amarok

There seems no mention in this article of the Volkswagen Amarok, or am I missing it somehow? Andrewa (talk) 01:09, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

See Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles. BilCat (talk) 01:31, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it is mentioned there. So is this article scoped to only passenger vehicles?

If so I think it is mistitled and the lead also needs tweaking. Both the Amarok and the type 2 Volkswagen should be included in the undisambiguated term Volkswagen. Andrewa (talk) 10:36, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the scope of the article is passenger cars, and that's been the primary topic for as long as I can remember. There's a clear hatnote at the top of the article for Volkswagen Group and Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles. I don't see the point of an RM just because a pick-up isn't listed, but that's your choice. Yes, the lead does need tweaking, but I'm not the person to do it. BilCat (talk) 13:22, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

The point of a possible RM is that the scope of the article does not match its title.

If you are correct that the primary topic of Volkswagen is their passenger vehicles, then there is no problem. But I think that it would be generally agreed that the Amarok is a Volkswagen as the term Volkswagen is used in English.

It seems a no-brainer to me that the term has a wider meaning. It may not include their heavy vehicles, but it certainly includes the type 2 Volkswagen for example, and the article already mentions these. Andrewa (talk) 21:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm not trying to argue with you. If you want to make a concrete proposal.for an RM, go ahead and do it. BilCat (talk) 22:57, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm not wanting to argue either, I want to build consensus. This discussion has been helpful to me. But perhaps we now need to involve others, and an RM is an obvious way of doing this.

It seems to me that the article does cover some VW commercials already (the type 2). And the Amarok in Australia is seen as an SUV rather than a commercial vehicle, which is part of the reason I raised the question despite the hatnote This article is about Volkswagen Passenger Cars. For the parent group, see Volkswagen Group. For Volkswagen vans, trucks and buses, see Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles. I took the vans there not to include the T2, and so didn't imagine that vans, trucks and buses would include the Amarok.

So I still think there is work to do, and I think we're making progress in identifying exactly what. Andrewa (talk) 23:56, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Some parts need polishing

Take this passage from the post-war paragraph.

In 1949, Major Hirst left the company—now re-formed as a trust controlled by the West German government and government of the State of Lower Saxony. The "Beetle" sedan or "peoples' car" Volkswagen is the Type 1.

The transition between the first sentence and the second about the Beetle is terribly abrupt. The verb tense inexplicably changes from past to present, it's not explained where the Beetle came from, or why it's called Type 1. And who ever called the Beetle "peoples' car Volkswagen"? Is that supposed to be "people's car", and not "peoples' car"? That's the translation of the Volkswagen name. Was it also a nickname of the Type 1? Kumagoro-42 (talk) 05:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

New logo for VW

yea 41.114.236.180 (talk) 06:13, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Will be updated? mcg (talk) 14:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Historic part

I was born a German and had a look here as to how much we owe the existence of VW to government involvement in this car business. I remember when VW was privatised, in the 1960s, so I figured it must have been in public ownership before.

It comes up often these days that there is a project which is not just nice but kind of necessary but does not get off the ground because the private sector will not do it or demands so much in grants that it gets canned. This paralyses progress so I found it interesting to read about the various government involvements. Government involvement and taxpayer funds are necessary to move things forward. If you wait for the private sector to get their act together, the bridges crumble - or the car factory never gets off the ground. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:B4C6:5D47:A9B0:AB45 (talk) 06:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Ownership?

It's an essential topic when it comes to int'l companies. I'm reading for instance elsewhere that Qatar is a major shareholder, but couldn't find anything in the article about who owns VW. So? Arminden (talk) 07:47, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

VOLKSWAGEN CARS

The introduction is very well detailing what exactly VOLKSWAGEN is. 41.144.68.169 (talk) 12:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)