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--The Wizard of Magicland 21:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any help with this page - especially with layout and format - would be most appreciated. See also the talk pages of the breeds in question.

Thank you very much to whoever fixed the page, it looks great! I will be working on the page content some more this weekend. --The Wizard of Magicland 09:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 17:23, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vulnerable dog breeds of the United Kingdom → Vulnerable native breeds – This article is about the Kennel Club's programme to record the breeding records in the UK of dog breeds originating in the UK and Ireland. There is no equivalent programme in Ireland as suggested by the person who changed the article title to "Vulnerable dog breeds of the United Kingdom". The Kennel Club uses the terminology "Vulnerable native breeds"[1], and since this article is about that programme and not more generally vulnerable dog breeds of/in the UK, it is currently inaccurate. This is also an opportunity to correct the capitalisation that was in the original title. Miyagawa (talk) 09:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:05, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: "Vulnerable Native Breeds" is too ambiguous. The suggested article title needs to state "dog breeds" and the "country" the article is referring, in this case the United Kingdom. If not, "Vulnerable Native Breeds" can refer to any animal and any country, continent or the whole planet! IQ125 (talk) 12:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Except that it doesn't. It's the name of a programme specifically run by the Kennel Club in the UK. On the basis of your argument Premier League should be moved to Premier League of England, because it doesn't specifically state the geographical location it applies to. This is not an article generally about those dog breeds which are endangered in the UK (for which your new title is completely appropriate). It's about a specific programme called "Vulnerable native breeds" run by the Kennel Club. Miyagawa (talk) 13:07, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Vulnerable Native Breeds" is the name of a webpage located at the Kennel Club website. It is not the same as an incorporated organization name like the Premier League. I think it is good to have this article in Wikipedia, but the title needs to reflect the subject matter of an encyclopedic article, so users can find the article and know what the information is contained within. IQ125 (talk) 14:16, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Category:Vulnerable Native Breeds name will have to be changed to match this articles name. IQ125 (talk) 09:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME,[2] and I don't see anything else this could be confused with.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:37, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and User:Cuchullain. — AjaxSmack 17:04, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per User:IQ125's argument above. "Vulnerable native breeds" is a description, not a formal title, as even the originating organization the Kennel Club implies on their webpage by not capitalizing "vulnerable native breeds" or "vulnerable breeds" on their page within prose text (and the title of the whole page is "Vulnerable native breeds", not "Vulnerable Native Breeds"). (Moreover, even if the Kennel Club considered it a formal title, it still wouldn't be a title widely recognized beyond their specific jurisdiction of the United Kingdom.) The word "native" immediately raises the question, "native to where?" The Kennel Club doesn't have to further narrow their description beyond "vulnerable native breeds" since it has a specific audience (dog aficionados in the United Kingdom), but Wikipedia addresses a worldwide audience of diverse interests. A title of "vulnerable native breeds" would imply the article covers vulnerable native breeds of many species and countries rather than the specific subject matter of this particular article. —Lowellian (reply) 01:03, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: "Vulnerable Native Breeds" is too ambiguous. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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