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Town Status

I spoke to the Centre for Buckinghamshire Studies today, and they confirmed the town status of Wendover. It is definitely a town rather than a village, they provided a couple of strong references stating it as such as well as offering the definitive definition of a town in the United Kingdom. Wendover has had royal charter to hold a weekly market since 1464: something that defines this place as a town, and that is something that will be going into the article in a sec.

The two references were Sheehan's History and Topography of Buckinghamshire (1960), and the Kelly's Directory or Buckinghamshire (1939). An online reference is genuki (which features the word TOWN in big letters).

Also Wendover was formerly a borough with a Borough Council (or so they told me).

-- Graham ☺ | Talk 17:17, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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David Lidington is no longer the MP - he retired at the time of the 2019 election, and did not contest the seat. At the 2019 election Rob Butler (also Conservative) was elected — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.174.141 (talk) 15:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wendover is a town

I refer to the opening section on the talk page. Wendover is a town. The edit to the article removed the source. If you read the source, it explains why your edits have been reverted. 92.40.26.2 (talk) 21:30, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just because an office study and two books call it a town don't make it officially a town. So feel free to discuss before engaging in Wikipedia:Edit warring. DragonofBatley (talk) 22:54, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Town

This is not a town and has no town council. So surely its a village? 92.239.240.153 (talk) 22:49, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wendover looks like a town to me:

Wendover Parish Council, although it does not style itself as a town council, does refer to the settlement as a town. This includes the 'Your Town' tab of its website homepage.
It's referred to as a town in the local press, such as this report about the clock in the town centre.
It's also referred to as a town on the Visit Wendover and Visit Buckinghamshire tourist information sites.
It's held a market charter, the traditional means of identifying a town, since 1464.

Something to bear in mind is that town status, unlike borough or city status, isn't officially conferred. What the local council calls itself can be a guide, but common usage and traditional identifiers like market charters are also very important. A.D.Hope (talk) 23:40, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree - on the evidence, Wendover is better described as a town. Rupples (talk) 00:22, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No harm in a sentence somewhere saying that the place is sometimes referred to as a village, mind. A.D.Hope (talk) 00:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've read through the Visit Buckinghamshire site and other articles. If this was changed back to town all the village terms need updating as I read a lot of inconsistencies when editings. Great Missenden was described as a town but I've found enough evidence it is not a town by definition or history and a village. DragonofBatley (talk) 00:36, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tend to agree with you that Great Missenden is best described as a village. Haven't found sources saying it is a town. Rupples (talk) 00:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per the analysis from A D.Hope Wendover is a town and the recent changes by DragonofBatley should be reverted. 109.144.30.2 (talk) 07:23, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One editors analysis doesn't make it the answer. Hence a discussion is taking place. And be careful with your wording like should because that's what you think and nobody else. DragonofBatley (talk) 08:20, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Wendover Parish Council homepage [1] has "Your Town" as the fifth green tab under the council banner. Reference 3 in the article states "Wendover is a compact market town" Page 8 and "Although Wendover identifies itself as a village, and is maintained by a Parish rather than a Town Council, the history of the settlement is very much that of a small market town." page 9. Is this enough to call it a town? 92.40.27.139 (talk) 11:05, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've been bold and changed all references to Wendover as a village back to 'town', and added an explanatory footnote to the lead sentence to explain the situation. A sentence or two in the body would probably be a good idea as well.A.D.Hope (talk) 11:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea to include the note at the outset. Take it this issue now sorted? Rupples (talk) 15:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

The original name is of the West Slavic Lechitic origin of the tribe of Wends (gwends) originally signifying a "queen", later a "woman", a "fair lady", and later a "blessed lady", as we can also see in Brythonic Celtic.

This text is not sourced, and it seems unlikely to derive from Slavic. What's the evidence? Alun (talk) 19:17, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence as far as I can tell, cf. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gwyn

From Middle Welsh gwynn, from Proto-Brythonic *gwɨnn, from Proto-Celtic *windos.

Ne'er a 'blessed lady' to be seen. 176.61.48.12 (talk) 16:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]