Template:Did you know nominations/Cannonball (MILW train)

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron talk 03:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Cannonball (MILW train)

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The Cannonball (1966)

~~... that Milwaukee, Wisconsin, had a commuter train nicknamed the Cannonball operating between suburban Watertown until 1972?~~

Source: Sanders, Craig (2006). Amtrak in the Heartland. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-253-34705-3

Reviewed:

Created by Central Corridor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Central Corridor (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC).

Hi @Central Corridor:, and welcome to DYK. I'm not doing a full review, but I will provide you with some feedback to help out. Firstly, I have tagged some uncited statements in the article that will need to be cited before this article can pass DYK per WP:DYKCITE. Second, I think the proposed hook will not meet the interesting requirement. It simply states a basic fact that even I, someone obsessed with trains to the point they're in my username, do not find particularly interesting. Fortunately, there are some things in the article that we can use to support a better hook. I was drawn to the sentence "The Cannonball gained a reputation for parties that frequently occurred on the Friday night train outbound from Milwaukee. Passengers brought aboard drinks to share, a band played, and the train often held at intermediate stops to replenish beer and ice."

Based on that sentence, here's my proposed hook: "... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball was often the site of parties with a live band and drinks on Friday nights?"

One other idea would be a hook about how 89% of riders on the pilot program said they would keep riding the train, yet it still wasn't restored. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

@Central Corridor: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 22:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

The nominator has not edited since October 7, 2024. This nomination may need to be adopted to move forward. Flibirigit (talk) 23:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

I have adopted this nomination. I was able to modify one uncited sentence and add a source. I am working on the others, but I’m afraid I may have to remove them. Viriditas (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much, @Viriditas:! Please comment here when it's ready for me to start the full review. Flibirigit (talk) 18:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball was known for its Friday night parties?

Source: Sanders, Craig (2006). Amtrak in the Heartland. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-253-34705-3

@Flibirigit: I think we're good to go. Viriditas (talk) 00:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Will complete this review by tomorrow at the latest. Thanks again! Flibirigit (talk) 00:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article is new enough, since it was created on September 12, and nominated on September 18. Length and sourcing are adequate. The article is neutral in tone and no plagiarism was detected. The hook is rather catchy, mentioned in the article, cited to an offline book which I will AGF on the source. The nominated image has a public domain license on the Commons, it is used in the article, clear at a low resolution, and greatly enhances the hook. QPQ is not required since this is the nominator's first DYK attempt. Thanks to User:Viriditas for adopting this nomination. Flibirigit (talk) 17:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)