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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Chang Liyi, Yeh Changti

Wreckage of a U-2 shot down over China
Wreckage of a U-2 shot down over China

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 20:38, 21 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Article is long enough, and in date. It meets all policies, and is both factual and interesting. Has appeared on ITN, but in the RD section, so still qualifies for DYK. Hook is sourced and cited in article, and supported by source used. AGF on the Chinese language sources used for other parts of the article. Image is PD and shows up well. Just curious, do we know for sure that the one in the image is Chang Liyi's? The article says four U-2s were on display. If his was the only U-2C then de facto it must be his, or if his had the serial number 6-6691. Or it might be in the Chinese sources. But this is just an aside. QPQ has been done, no copyvio issues. Looks good to go! Spokoyni (talk) 16:33, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Zanhe: I was planning to promote this, but found the hook too complex to understand. Perhaps you could suggest something different? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:04, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @Zanhe: are you coming back to this nomination? Yoninah (talk) 00:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Sorry I was travelling in July and missed Cwmhiraeth's comment. I will deal with this in the next few days. -Zanhe (talk) 00:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the downing of Chang Liyi (pictured) and other Taiwanese Black Cats prompted the CIA and US Air Force to begin prioritizing the development of drones at Area 51?
Better? (Same article, point, sources as before, so Spokoyni's review should roll over.) — LlywelynII 21:25, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@LlywelynII: Thanks for your suggestion. It's a great hook, but I'm currently researching materials for Yeh Changti, another Black Cat shot down and captured in China. I plan to expand this into a two-article hook, and will need up to a week to complete the second article. Thanks for your patience everyone! -Zanhe (talk) 23:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that after the U-2 spy aircraft (wreckage pictured) piloted by Yeh Changti and Chang Liyi were shot down over China, the United States began prioritizing the development of drones at Area 51?
@Spokoyni, Cwmhiraeth, Yoninah, and LlywelynII: Thanks for your patience. I've finally finished writing Yeh Changti and am proposing ALT2 to incorporate both articles. Could any of you review the second article (same source as the original hook)? And I'd like to reserve it for September 20 to coincide with Storm Area 51. Thanks! I've added a second QPQ above. -Zanhe (talk) 21:07, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
I like ALT2 but I don't like that image of the wreckage; at thumbnail size, it looks like an old gray car in an outdoor parking lot. Do you want to use the image of Chang Liyi and family instead? Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately the Chang Liyi family photo is in limbo right now as it's been nominated for deletion since June. I'm ok with no image. -Zanhe (talk) 05:36, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The new article is very interesting and passes the DYK criteria of age and length, neutrality and policy. The ALT2 hook facts are cited inline and I suggest running this without an image. An extra QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:56, 29 August 2019 (UTC)