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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 10:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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Preet Chandi

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Preet Chandi
Preet Chandi

Created by Cbderbylib (talk), Kaybeesquared (talk), SanjitChudha (talk), Mmberney (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 20:44, 5 January 2022 (UTC).

  • Article meets DYK requirements and a QPQ has been provided. I like the original hook the best because it's the most easily readable; hook is cited inline and verified. While Earwigs detected a match with this site, it's only due to the block quotes in the article, which are properly cited. My only concern is that ALT0's wording doesn't exactly match the article text: the hook says that she was the first woman of color to walk solo to the South Pole, but the article instead states that it is "believed" that she is the first to do so. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:34, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
    • try this source instead which clears up the doubt... or I suggest that the journos did only believe this to be true but surely after this claim has been made and no one has contested it then it would seem to me that its veracity is enough for a DYK hook as the article makes the detail clear. If you insist then we could go for Alt2 or 3 which smudge that fact Victuallers (talk) 12:06, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Alt2 ... that while Preet Chandi was (probably) becoming the first woman of colour to walk solo to the South Pole, she was contacting friends to be her bridesmaids?
  • Alt3 ... that while Preet Chandi was contesting to be the first woman of colour to walk solo to the South Pole, she was contacting friends to be her bridesmaids?
  • Alt4 ... that while Preet Chandi was becoming "the first woman of colour to walk solo to the South Pole", she was contacting friends to be her bridesmaids?
The article still says "believed to be the first" and so that will need to be resolved before any hook fact that mentions "first woman of colour to walk solo" is approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:06, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have removed the word "believed" from the article and changed the ref to support the statement without that word. It may be useful to note that Black History Month (US version) starts on 1 Feb. Victuallers (talk) 14:50, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Rereading the sources again, they all do say "thought to be the first" (even the CNN source says "believed") and so I think the word believed needs to remain in the hook and the article. I think some variation of ALT0 would work as long as the "believed" part remains. Perhaps reword it to start with something like "that Preet Chandi, believed to be..., contacted friends to be her bridesmaids while on her expedition?" or wording to that effect. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:40, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
I cannot see there is a great deal of difference between "probably" in Alt2 and "believed" or alt3 which doesnt even make the claim that she was the first... but you seem very insistant that the word is used. I tried modding the main hook but it is too clunky. Better to leave the claim entirely I think - I have rephrased to the less hooky alt5. Victuallers (talk) 11:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
I'll give this a shot since I believe that her being the first woman of colour is central to the hook. Maybe something like this?
ALT6 ... that during her expedition, Preet Chandi, believed to be the first woman of colour to walk solo to the South Pole, was contacting friends to be bridesmaids?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:06, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
OK lets go with your hook Victuallers (talk) 16:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the edits. One last thing: the year of birth needs a citation. Some of the articles about her give an age so I think those should work as references. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
    I thank you for your work, but this is not a GA review. You don't get to spot errors, list them here and get others to fix them for you while you keep the nomination hostage. If you see an error then please just fix it or realise that DYK articles are not perfect but works in progress. If you find another thing that IYO "must be" fixed then please just fix it, ask for another reviewer or just assume this nomination is withdrawn. Victuallers (talk) 17:20, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • As a general rule I do not edit myself any article I review as I prefer to be hands-off whenever possible, hence why I didn't edit the article myself. In any case my issues have been addressed so we are now good to go with ALT6. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:25, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

ALT6 to T:DYK/P4

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