Template talk:Neighborhoods of San Jose

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Scope includes major districts

The name of the template is perhaps a bit ambiguous since "neighborhood" itself is imprecise. It's worth pointing out that the precedent on this template is that it covers major districts of San Jose, not every little neighborhood. Think in terms of areas comparable with other cities in Silicon Valley. It's obvious why the original author of the template did it this way. If we set the bar lower than that, this template would grow uncontrollably - there are literally hundreds of minor neighborhoods in San Jose, most of which would not meet Wikipedia's test of notability. Ikluft (talk) 19:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should follow planning areas instead

I think this template should follow the Jose planning areas instead. The categories here resemble the planning areas already, but there are several discrepancies. Also, the neighborhoods should probably follow the Santa Clara neighborhood profiles. 76.102.34.7 (talk) 21:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It absolutely should not, the planning areas are only used for urban planning and statistical purposes. They do not represent the neighborhoods of districts of the city accurately, nor are their borders widely accepted as boundaries for any neighborhood. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 18:19, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you feel the county or planning data is inaccurate, please provide a more authoritative source of "widely accepted" data. fintler (talk) 07:21, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What's the source for the map of neighborhoods?

Is there a source for the map of neighborhoods? Team San Jose, a sort of downtown entertainment business association, seems to disagree with the lines drawn here.

And as far as I know the City government itself does not have any definition of neighborhoods, though there are Council Districts.

71.202.73.105 (talk) 18:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Team San Jose website's map of neighborhoods is constantly changing. It previously didn't include entries for Rose Garden or The Alameda, for example. It is an evolving, tourist-facing interactive map and not at all a holistic depiction of the city's geography. When Team San Jose puts enough relevant marketing material for a neighborhood, they then add its outline to the map. This is why the South San Jose and North San Jose are blanketing so much space. They are placeholder descriptions until material is put out on the specific neighborhoods within those regions. The map doesn't mention Berryessa, Midtown, Northside, Santa Teresa, Cambrian, etc etc. The list goes on and on. It's a terrible representation of the city as it is right now, but it is also a work in progress, so the Visit San Jose map will get more detailed and accurate as time passes and more neighborhoods are added to it. The map I uploaded is a composite of sources, everything from the San Jose Planning Areas Map to the San Jose SNI (Smart Neighborhood Initiative) Map to individual neighborhood association maps and beyond. Comparing the two serves no purpose, one seeks to describe the regions, districts, and neighborhoods across the city while Visit San Jose's is seeks to make a map that is useful for tourists to find touristic locations to visit (alongside it being a work in progress). Cristiano Tomás (talk) 18:23, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Clara County has a clear definition of neighborhoods (with tons of metrics like population, clear boundary lines, etc). The map shown here looks like it violates Wikipedia's no original research. It appears to introduce new names for a few places (e.g. "North Monterey", has dividing lines for Willow Glen that I haven't seen elsewhere, etc). Why not just stick to the county neighborhood map? It seems to be the one with the most research and data behind it. I made changes in this direction, but it looks like you deleted/reverted them. Maybe we can switch to Team San Jose after it's not "a terrible representation of the city". fintler (talk) 07:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The template map of "neighborhoods of San Jose" should follow published source. Significant differences exist between the pictured map and official maps. For instance, the boundary of Mayfair should be two straight sides formed by Alum Rock Ave and S. King, with 680 freeway providing a curved southeast boundary. The map drawn by Cristiano has another large chunk added to the southwest of King.

Cristiano's own maps may conflict with each other, for instance his map of Little Portugal has a cutout at the western corner, but the same boundary shown at the neighborhoods map is more rectangular, with four straight sides.

Perhaps the problem comes from trying to fill in the spaces between officially designated neighborhoods from the Strong Neighborhoods Initiative, which leaves gaps. Binksternet (talk) 20:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]