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1a, 1b, and 1c are what needed:

  1. It is:
    1. well-written: its prose is engaging and of a professional standard;
    2. comprehensive: it neglects no major facts or details and places the subject in context;
    3. well-researched: it is a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature; claims are verifiable against high-quality reliable sources and are supported by inline citations where appropriate;
    4. neutral: it presents views fairly and without bias;
    5. stable: it is not subject to ongoing edit wars and its content does not change significantly from day to day, except in response to the featured article process; and
    6. compliant with Wikipedia's copyright policy and free of plagiarism or too-close paraphrasing.
  2. It follows the style guidelines, including the provision of:
    1. a lead: a concise lead section that summarizes the topic and prepares the reader for the detail in the subsequent sections;
    2. appropriate structure: a substantial but not overwhelming system of hierarchical section headings; and
    3. consistent citations: where required by criterion 1c, consistently formatted inline citations using footnotes—see citing sources for suggestions on formatting references. Citation templates are not required.
  3. Media. It has images and other media, where appropriate, with succinct captions and acceptable copyright status. Images follow the image use policy. Non-free images or media must satisfy the criteria for inclusion of non-free content and be labeled accordingly.
  4. Length. It stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail and uses summary style.

Info from Ditko's essays[edit]

Ditko, Steve (2020). "Why I Quit S-M, Marvel". The Complete Four-Page Series And Other Essays (Ditko Complains). SD Publishing. ISBN 978-1945307263 – via The Four-Page Series (2012–2015) by Steve Ditko.

  • Ditko on the Green Goblin: "Now digest this: I knew from Day One, from the first GG story, who the GG would be. I absolutely knew because I planted him in J. Jonah Jameson's businessmans club, it was where JJJ and the GG could be seen together [Norman Osborn was drawn there]. I planted them together in other stories where the GG would not appear in costume, action…I wanted JJJ's and the GG's lives to mix for later story drama involving more than just the two characters…I planted the GG's son (same distinctive hair style) in the college issues for more dramatic involvement and storyline consequences…So how could there be any doubt, dispute, about who the GG had to turn out to be when unmasked?"
  • Ditko hated Lee editorially mandating guest-stars: "Everyone used from another hero's story-world prevented us from focusing on, creating and developing our own unique story—world of characters and villains like Dr. Octopus, Electro, Kraven, etc. And it affected S-[M]'s own cast—JJ, Betty, Flash, Aunt May—such as Johnny Storm’s (HT) relationship with Peter and his classmates, etc. All outside, other inclusions robbed us of our unique potentials." No guest stars appeared when Ditko was credited plotter.
  • Lee wanted to get rid of J. Jonah Jameson because the fans hated how horrible he was to Spider-Man, but Ditko refused because he understood how important that dynamic was. "So when I was doing issue #18 (1964), I deliberately drew the ugliest smile on JJJ that I could conceive on the splash page. All through the story I added bits, sequences, playing up JJJ's facial features as much I could."
  • Lee wanted to kill Aunt May, and have Peter work for the Bugle full time. Ditko strongly disagreed, mainly because Aunt May was a unique character in a superhero cast that distinguished the title from others, but also because Lee's idea would make Spidey too much like Superman.
  • Ditko wanted to kill Betty Brant. Lee disagreed, and Ditko concedes Lee was right, given the romantic tension they mined over the course of the series.
  • Lee wanted to add a Spider-Woman to the book. Ditko objected because he felt it was a horrible idea at that point in the series.
  • In general, Lee wanted the book to focus more on Spidey in costume, and less on the high school and personal scenes. Per Ditko, Stan's ideal Spidey story was the Tinkerer chapter in Amazing Spider-Man #2, where the supporting cast was basically window dressing and seasoning. Ditko constantly pushed for more scenes of Peter’s personal life, since that’s what made the title unique.
  • In general, Ditko usually disliked including elements that deviated from the more grounded world/genre he felt they established. Similar to Dr. Strange, he didn't want to include actual aliens, the rocketship rescue story in #1, superhero guest spots, etc. When Lee suggested a magical creature called the Green Goblin for a later story, Ditko decided to turn him into a costumed villain on his own. Lee was a lot more freewheeling about mixing genres and characters together.
  • Stan Lee had absolutely nothing to do with creating the most famous scene in their run--where a trapped Spider-Man lifts the heavy machinery to save Aunt May over several pages--despite taking credit for the idea, because they hadn't been speaking for a year at that point, and Ditko was doing all the plotting.

"Why I Quit S-M, Marvel"[edit]

Steve Ditko left Marvel because Stan Lee stopped interacting with him. Their working process used to be Ditko bringing in the penciled art for a story and they'd go over it panel by panel and he'd take notes on what changes to make when he inked the artwork. At some point, Lee stopped doing it and never told Ditko why. Roy Thomas, in Alter Ego #160, mentioned Sol Brodsky, the production manager, told him Lee and Ditko weren't talking. It was due to the two arguing more and more about the direction of the series. In a 1966 NY Herald article, Stan said they were arguing so much over stories that he told Steve "to start making up his own stories." His attitude was to leave Ditko alone till sales started to slip (Spider-Man was the second bestselling title at Marvel and assumed the number one position a year later after Ditko quit--but probably had more to do with the popular momentum of the comic than Ditko leaving).

Norman Osborn (Sam Raimi film series) § Design mockups (Spider-Man–Variety April 2022 Oral History)[edit]

What made Dafoe star was Raimi and the "fairly new idea" of adapting comic book characters to film.

Dafoe described the audition process as "competitive".

Some creative choices proved complicated, like the Goblin’s helmet.

  • Dafoe: The challenge was always to not make the Goblin ridiculous, make him a little scary. And I think, because technology was involved, they went with a very angular, very modern kind of look, more like an armor. Some of the early tests I saw, the Goblin looked more like a Halloween mask, this kind of puke green with bug eyes. It was kind of silly looking.

Goblin’s helmet also meant that during certain crucial moments in the movie, the faces of the lead hero and the villain were both totally obscured.

  • Raimi: I would sometimes communicate to the actors, "I need an additional gesticulation of your fingers here to explain your helplessness." Or in the case of sadness, "Can I have a slight tilt to the mask down." It would be a little bit more like theater. And I would be the audience watching the scene from row 16, where the subtleties of the voice weren’t always enough. It sometimes had to be demonstrated through a gesture or movement or the way a character stands or sits.
  • Dafoe: It was also a beautiful combination of very comic stuff and very dramatic stuff, and sometimes those things were weaved together in the same scene. Even though I wasn’t really in tune with knowing what comic books were, I did come from a theater tradition that appreciated a different kind of performance style than naturalism. And I saw the opportunities in having this kind of monster character, and then have it grounded with a certain psychological portrait of this tortured guy.

In April 2022, in journalist Adam B. Vary of Variety's Spider-Man oral history, Dafoe reflected on the film, saying it was "undoubtedly the most widely seen of any movie I had ever done", and when a young child would come up to him, Dafoe had a "pretty good idea" what film he watched.

Spider-Man bits from MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios[edit]

  • In Spider-Man 4, John Malkovich would have played Vulture and Anne Hathaway would have played Black Cat, as previously reported. Angelina Joe was actually tapped for Vulturess, who would be Vulture's daughter. Raimi ultimately left because quality and profitability concerns: he couldn't see how to turn profits on a film that would cost nearly $400m.
  • Sony's contract with Marvel specified that after the release of a Spider-Man movie, the studio had to start production of the next one within three years and nine months, and get it into theaters within five years and nine months. Otherwise, the hugely valuable Spider-Man movie rights would revert back to Marvel.
  • While filming Endgame, the on-set plan was to have Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Spider-Man be the three new faces of the MCU.
  • No Way Home basically never had a finished screenplay because so many elements were in flux. Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson, and Sally Field's Aunt May were all in various drafts. Maguire and Garfield weren't signed until two months into filming.

On hold projects[edit]

Otto Octavius[edit]

Otto Octavius
Sam Raimi's Spider-Man and
Marvel Cinematic Universe character
First appearanceSpider-Man 2 (2004)
Last appearanceSpider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
Based on
Doctor Octopus
by
Adapted by
Portrayed byAlfred Molina
In-universe information
Full nameOtto Gunther Octavius
AliasDoctor Octopus
NicknameDoc Ock
SpeciesHuman cyborg
TitleDoctor
OccupationPhysicist
AffiliationOscorp Industries
WeaponFour robotic arms with artificial intelligence
SpouseRosalie Octavius
NationalityAmerican

Otto Octavius is a fictional character portrayed by Alfred Molina in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy and later integrated to the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) film franchise, being based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name–also known in media by the alias Doctor Octopus, nicknamed "Doc Ock". Octavius is introduced in Spider-Man 2 (2004) as a nuclear physicist building a fusion reactor that eventually causes an accident fusing his robotic arms to his limbs and kills his wife Rosie. Under influence of his arms, Octavius experiences a crime spree to fund his second fusion reactor experiment, resulting in encountering Spider-Man multiple times. Octavius later sacrifices his life to stop his de-stablizing fusion reactor in the East River.

Returning in Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) due to a spell rupturing the multiverse, he initially attacks an alternate reality's Peter Parker, by the assumption that he was his Spider-Man. Octavius is eventually cured after being captured by Dr. Stephen Strange and Parker. Octavius works together with Parker, his Spider-Man, and another Parker to defeat and cure Max Dillon, Flint Marko, and Curt Connors, before he is shortly returned to his universe.

Molina's performance as the character, considered an early portrayal of Octavius as a tragic villain, has been positively received by critics and audiences, with the character considered one of the most iconic villains in superhero films. Molina expressed interest in reprising his role in the Sinister Six film before eventually signing on to No Way Home in 2020.

Concept and creation[edit]

= Spider-Man: No Way Home[edit]

In December 2020, Molina was reported to be returning as Octavius in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) film Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021);[1][2] Molina confirmed he would be appearing in the film in April 2021, explaining that although he was told to keep it a secret, he realized his appearance was widely rumored and reported on.[3]

Characterization[edit]

Visual effects[edit]

In No Way Home, the tentacles were changed to be entirely CGI, rather than puppeters;[3] co-star Tom Holland said that Molina had to "re-learn" how to use them.

Reception[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^ Kit, Borys; Couch, Aaron (December 8, 2020). "'Spider-Man 3': Alfred Molina Returning as Doctor Octopus". The Hollywood Reporter. Archived from the original on December 8, 2020. Retrieved December 8, 2020.
  2. ^ McMillan, Graeme (December 8, 2020). "How the Multiverse Can Reshape Marvel". The Hollywood Reporter. Archived from the original on December 9, 2020. Retrieved December 8, 2020.
  3. ^ a b Aurthur, Kate (April 16, 2021). "Alfred Molina Details Doc Ock's Return in Spider-Man: No Way Home: "The Tentacles Do All the Work" (Exclusive)". Variety. Archived from the original on April 16, 2021. Retrieved April 16, 2021.


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