User talk:DonJay

Your images

Hi, DonJay! I saw your post here and thought I could help you out. While I appreciate your willingness to contribute and the hard work it must have taken to track these images down and secure permissions for them, they are unfortunately inappropriate for Wikipedia at this moment and can be deleted at any time. As Wikipedia is a free project that lets anybody copy content from it, all media must be free content - and sadly, media that is licensed only for Wikipedia's use does not meet this standard. If you have been in contact with the copyright holders of those four images, could you please ask them to get in touch with Wikipedia at permissions-en@wikimedia.org so we can work the licensing details out? Please reply on my talk page if you've got any questions. Thanks! east.718 at 03:05, February 26, 2008

I have re-added the tags as they don't have a rationale as the bot stated. As east718 has explained, permission to use on wikipedia is mostly irrelevant. All that matters is whether the copyright owner is willing to license them under a free license. If they are not, then they will need to be used under the NFCC which requires a rationale as explained in the disputed tags. One of the key things that is necessary is that these images cannot reasonably be replaced by a free alternative. As these appear to be historic photos or historic items the key issue here is whether they are really necessary for understanding the topic. For example, is it really necessary to show a photo of a CL-84 landing or a CL-89 being launched? If not, CL-84 already has free photos of the plane and I'm guessing there would probably be intact CL-89s on display in museums. In the case of Image:Dray.jpg do you know what year this photo was taken? If it was in the very early 20th century, it may very well be in the public domain so NFCC is irrelevant. Nil Einne (talk) 09:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been contributing anonymously since 2004 or so, so I do feel your pain regarding the changes in culture here over time. But that's another discussion for another day. :-) Respectfully, your interpretation of permission-only images is wrong - they are considered non-free for our purposes, and have been for the past three years by decree of Jimbo; this is also the reason why {{withpermission}} and {{permission}} exist as they do. I am quite tired now so I apologize for not leaving an extended message, but please get back to me if you have any other concerns. east.718 at 04:13, February 28, 2008

Re: London Blitz

I'd rather you pick one of the other links on the air raid page. Otherwise, we're going to end up with a link to a disam page, which we want to avoid. --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 16:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Take it up on the talk page. I hit articles to fix the disam links but not really beyond that. You probably want to discuss it on the talk page where you'll find people more immersed in the topic. --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 13:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

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License confuzion

You uploaded Image:OSsign.jpg with a GFDL tag, but said it was "released for PD" in the summary. Usually PD means Public Domain, so it looks like a mistake. Is this true? 76.117.247.55 (talk) 21:38, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For you creation of the new article Lesser Known British Comic Strips, which helps to expand the encyclopedia. Your contribution is appreciated. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Kate Carney

I don't think you are correct. The OED does not refer to any gender limitation in the term in British English. [1]. I easily found "comedian" being used to describe women in a wide range of British news sources. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] Whatever may have been the term used in the past, when Carney was active, we are writing an encyclopaedia in contemporary English. So I believe the MOS guideline on gender-neutral language does apply here and the change is correct. Neljack (talk) 01:26, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Your interpretation of MOS would mean that terms such as "comedienne" and "poetess" would always be allowed, since they are by definition used in "one-gender contexts". That was clearly not the intention, as is evident from the discussions that led to the creation of the gender-neutral language section. [8] As the example given suggests, this exemption was intended to allow the use of masculine or feminine pronouns when referring to a group of people who were all of the same gender. Neljack (talk) 14:07, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

I have posted to the MOS talk page, which would seem to be the appropriate place to seek comments from others.[9] Neljack (talk) 05:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

My sense is that it varies, but that a significant number of women are offended by gender-specific language. Neljack (talk) 01:50, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Old Sergeant, Wandsworth

I have undone your edit on 'Old Sergeant' as it is a separate item and should not be deleted by redirecting it to 'Garratt Lane'.which should link it, as a mother article. DonJay (talk) 02:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. The article does not assert the notability of the topic. In general, we require reliable sources to have written in depth (not a brief mention, a listing, nor a review) about a pub. Details which have been accepted as conferring notability on a pub sufficient for it to be a standalone article are: significant events took place there - a bombing, a meeting, etc; the pub has received significant multiple awards; or that the place is associated with someone notable - though even that is dubious as notability is not inherited. I prefer not to delete articles on pubs; I would rather direct the title to the nearest appropriate article, including whatever information is sourced and encyclopedic, per WP:LOCAL. As you feel the pub is notable enough for a standalone article, I will wait several more days for you to research into the pub to find if it is indeed notable, and then to mention that in the article, along with the appropriate reliable sources. See Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and WP:A7. Regards SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Neiher of the two Wiki suggestions (Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and WP:A7.) refer to places or buildings, so your criterion for inclusion is not relevant.. As a coaching house and its over two century age is sufficient for warrant its inclusion. It has also won the award for best community pub (2012) (Now added to Wiki Page). DonJay (talk) 16:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for coming back to me. I think you're improving the article. Well done. As regards organisations, I was thinking in terms of the pub being a business, as that is how the article addresses the topic. There is no content regarding the structure, and the award is a business award, not one for the building or architecture. I understand your feeling that old buildings are inherently notable; however, buildings over two hundreds years old are quite common - we also have some trees that are that old, or older! ;-) And pubs themselves are often very old - see Oldest pub. I'll take a look later to see if I can dig something up on the Old Sergeant, Wandsworth. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 17:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I've had a look, and there's nothing more available regarding the pub than what you've already got. The most information is in the book Inn and Around London: A History of Young's Pubs. The book is published by Youngs themselves, so while it provides information, it doesn't assist toward notability. The only mention of the pub, outside of Youngs themselves, is in relation to the community award, which only attracted the interest of the local paper. The more I look into this, the more this appears to be a pleasant but fairly average local pub - pretty much as Youngs themselves describe it. If you're still in disagreement with me regarding the pub's notability, I'll list it at AfD to see what others think. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:48, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

The date I have for when Youngs bought it is 1836 - when Youngs bought several pubs from Earl Spencer. The date is from the revised 2004 edition of Osborn's book (now called Forever Young's). SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 14:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Old Sergeant, Wandsworth for deletion

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The formating you have used is non-standard and may confuse an admin closing the discussion, I suggest you reformat like this:

• Keep. The guide to AFD lists Notability for People, Organisations, Music, but not either places or buildings. The page refers to a place of entertainment that: 1) is over 250 years old; 2) has an award for being the best community pub in Britain in 2012; 3) has an original example of a 19th Century Coach House; 4) Is an example of a small but popular "Local". Any one of these reasons shows notability. Consequently the application should be rejected. DonJay (talk) 03:08, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Regards SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:56, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

John Young (brewer)

Thanks for your comment, and the WikiLove. I apologize if my talk message seemed brusque; it's a standardized message and wasn't meant to convey any hostility towards you or the subject. In fact, I've realized that I was far too hasty, and have cleaned up the article a bit; hope it meets with your approval. Trivialist (talk) 06:15, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Byron strip

Hi, according to the GeoOttawa application, the entire strip is known as Byron Tramway Park (click on layers, and then park and it will label the whole thing). Upon further investigation, the park does indeed begin at Holland (sorry for editing that out) and ends at Lincoln Heights on the other side of the parkway!

I understand that colloquially the strip might be called the Byron Strip, but I think it's best to use the official name. If you can find a proper reference of it being called the Byron strip, that should definitely be in the article as well. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, did you go to the Geo Ottawa link I gave you? If you click on the park it gives you the full borders. -- Earl Andrew - talk 21:14, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Prince of Wales on the Rideau

Go ahead and make the edits. I think I just added some population figures. The other stuff was put there by another user. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:45, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

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