User talk:Introvert

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- Introvert

Move an image to Commons

Greetings Dbenbenn. I was wondering if the picture Image:The Little Prince.jpg from The Little Prince could be moved to Commons.. what do you think? And, would you know, how to do that? (I am a very new user :)

The image was scanned by fr:User:MagicTom for Le Petit Prince and then copied by you into the English version; then there are more local copies in other languages, as well. And I just started one in Russian. Thanks in advance for any help! - ru:User:Bepa - Introvert 09:05, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Talk)

No, the Commons doesn't accept "fair use" material. You can read more at Commons:Commons:Licensing. dbenbenn | talk 13:55, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The Fifty Worst Films of All Time

Clearly I support including an article about the book. It would be appropriate for such an article to list at least some of the films picked by the author as the fifty worst, for instance the worst 1 or 10, although an argument could be made to include all 50, since it is a relativley short list. Pburka 21:24, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

50 Worst

Ok, what I think ought to be kept is Medved's original list/book. He was a campaigner for the joys of kitsch film before he became national. At that time, he was just another film writer fresh from a college major, and he was treading the ground already covered by Michael J. Weldon's The Psychotronic Guide to Movies, for example, which had catalogued the non-ironic bad movies for the stoner set. Medved was pithy, though, and he came up with a list. The mass media loves lists. Unfortunately, so do Wiki-visitors. What I'm against is anything that offers our visitors the chance to write their 50 worst. Such a list is inherently POV and therefore violates the deletion guidelines. The only way anyone can vote on it is "delete," if they want to stay within our guidelines. However, we can report on the genre of "worst film lists" and specifically highlight Medved's initial publication. We're tripped up, here, because the article Fifty Worst Films of All Time is not complete, either in terms of discussing Medved nor in having all 50. It would be better, IMO, to delete it and recreate it fresh or to totally rewrite it. Your central point is correct, though: The redirect of the stupid list (50 Worst Movies should redirect to the Medved-dependent Fifty Worst Films of All Time. I will go and amend my vote. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Geogre 02:46, 11 July 2005 (UTC) (Hmmm, I have Weldon in 1983. Surely that can't be right. I know I knew about this stuff before Medved turned from political hack to film hack. I thought it was Weldon first. Memory deserts me.) Geogre 02:54, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Translated

Tnx for the note on Romiszewski, translated. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 10:37, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I invite you to leave translation requests at relevant boards (see our neweest project, the Wikipedia:Eastern European Wikipedians' notice board for list of specic East-European country boards). Did a one sentence stub entry for the article for now. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 18:26, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(3149) Okudzhava

The name's origin may be "confirmed" in your mind, but do you have a reference to supply? An Internet URL is ideal, but even a book reference would do. Otherwise the asterisk mark will go back in (at the Meanings of asteroid names (3001-3500) page). Urhixidur 00:27, 2005 August 22 (UTC)

The reference I used is the IPA(I took it from the Meanings of asteroid names main page).

This IPA's list indeed has Okudzhava for #3149.

Okudzhava is Bulat Okudzhava (there is no other one!); the biography for Bulat Okudzhava] published on the MP site has it that an asteroid was named after him in 1988. The MP site seems rather trustworthy to me: it is The Official site for the writers of Moscow and Moscow region Russian: "Официальный сайт писателей Москвы и Московской области.

Will those references do it or they aren't substantial enough? Where should I have cited those reference? (I looked on the discussion page, didn't seem like the right place.) Thanks - Introvert ^talk 00:59, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Michel Saloff Coste

Hi Vera, thank you for your comments about this page. I recognize that there are vanity issues with this page, particularly because (as I noted on the talk page for the entry) M. Coste is not on the HEC website list of regular faculty... but I must confess, I took pity on him as a newcomer. I too, hoped against hope to find an entry about myself in the Wikipedia, and was disappointed. I found the policy against vanity pages before I had the idea of writing a self-referential encyclopedia article, but perhaps he did not see the brief note at the top of the "create a new page" template. Perhaps I'm too willing to give newcomers the benefit of the doubt... only time will tell. In any case, I appreciate your note! Mamawrites 03:13, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Introvert, thanks for your comments. As I understand it, the speedy deletion vanity criterion only applies to articles about a person which do not claim that the person has done something notable (e.g. published a book, won a regional/national/international sports competition, etc.) or is notable for another reason. If the article contains any claim of this sort (in this case: it mentions a few books he has authored), its deletion should be discussed at VfD, even if the article was written by the subject. Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Precedents says that professors who have contributed to books are generally considered notable, though, so the article is unlikely to be deleted if you list it at VfD, I think. I'd say that although the article is indeed self-promotional, it doesn't hurt to have it around if it's basically correct, so maybe it would indeed be best to just leave it as it is or maybe add a {{cleanup-importance}} tag if you think that the article still doesn't make clear why he is notable enough for an encyclopedia article. Regards, Sietse 11:18, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ivandvor

Hi, :))

Thank You for Your effort on Ivandvor article. It was more like a grafitti than a real article, so I deleted it hr:Ivandvor. See Talk:Ivandvor. Thanks anyway for Your effort. --Ante Perkovic 07:51, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

replied -> Ante Perkovic talk page - Introvert ^talk 08:33, 20 September 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks

You made fixing that problem look so easy! 172 | Talk 02:25, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Old style dates Wikify dates.

Suppose Ivan Ivanovitch was born 6 January 1813 NS 25 December 1812 OS.

As I see it there are four issues here:

Will the "born in 1812" category include Ivan wrongly?
Will the 1812 article include Ivan Iavanovitch on the OS birthday?
Will the 25 December page include Ivan?
Will it look OK?

I don't think so, the process is smarter than that, and wiifying the date certainly won't affect it.
No, that's a manual process (or the page wuld be overloaded).
Ditto.
Yes, I think because otherwise the date will look something like 6 January 1813 NS December 25 1812 OS to some users.

Rgds,

Rich Farmbrough 09:05, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

replied on Rich's talk page - Introvert ^talk 03:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ballet - musical form vs. dance technique

Hello, Introvert! My edits weren't errors at all and I fail to see what you cannot understand about them. If Prokofiev, for instance, composed a ballet, he didn't compose a 'dance form and technique', but a 'musical composition intended for ballet performance'. That's why I fixed all the links related to ballet compositions to the 'ballet (music)' article. Sounds logical to me... --Missmarple 19:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. I believe it is common terminology and solid tradition, to refer to a (European classical) ballet by the name of the composer. With full understanding that it is the music that the composers compose, and they may not be authors of libretto nor choreographers nor stage designers. It is also correct and common to name a ballet after its famous choreographer, like Balanchin's ballet, but that would be referring to a particular choreography.

Of course in full ballet description all cornerstones would be attributed to: the music, the libretto, the choreography, and stage design and decor. But for short, I believe that classical ballets are and will remain Composer's ballets, and in no way this traditional naming diminishes the value and importance of either author - or that of the dancers, for that matter.

As for now, I corrected your edits in three articles about ballets themselves (Pulcinella (ballet), Romeo and Juliet (Prokofiev), Spartacus (ballet)), and changed the wording in Tchaikovsky. You know your list of changes and please if there were other articles about ballets where you changed the pointer to ballet as musical form, make appropriate corrections. If you desire to insist on your point, you could reword the intro in each of the Ballet articles and say, for example, Pulchinella is a ballet with music by Stravinsky (although I still don't think this is unnecessary in the intro, it could be expanded within the article, instead).

It's hard for me to agree with your changes to the articles about composers (with regard to ballet) either, and I intend to revisit this subject later. I am hoping someone knowledgeable will soon contribute to the ballet (music) article after it being a stub for 2 years. Don't hesitate to write me a note if you think there is more to discuss. - Introvert ^talk 08:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template:History of Russia Ukraine Belarus

As I clearly described why i did my edit, so it's you, who introduces revert war and makes vandal edit. Welcome to duscussion, not punching Ilya K

I am hoping you must be sincerely confused. Anyway, the edit history is there to prove, who's done what. And yes, of course, welcome to discussion Talk:Kievan Rus'! It's been in progress for two days, by now; you are welcome to answer my earlier comments in there. I am glad you are starting to discuss things, hoping there won't be any more damage done. - Introvert ^talk 01:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kievan Rus

Thanks, I'm not an expert on Kievan Rus though, I just know a bit about it through Byzantine history...since I'm not any of the nationalities that have a personal or emotional tie to Kiev or Byzantium, I guess I can look at it more impartially... Adam Bishop 15:44, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfAr

An arbitration request against User:AndriyK has been filed. If you intend to participate/co-sign, please add your name to the "Involved parties" section and write a statement.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 18:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom accepted

This is the generic message left at several editors' talk pages in relation to the ArbCom case Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Community_vs._User:AndriyK. Since the fourth ArbCom member has recently voted to accept the case, the case is now considered accepted by the ArbCom as per Arbitration Policy. Please make sure your statement for the ArbCom is on the page if you are willing to write one (OTOH, being named as a party does not require you to make a statement, it just gives you a right to write one) and please make sure your statement is proofread if you wrote it earlier. Please, also, make sure your statement is in the appropriate place of the ArbCom page and not interjecting with others' statements. You are welcome to read up on the Wikipedia:Arbitration_policy and the associate pages.

--Irpen 04:00, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration accepted

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/AndriyK has been accepted. Please place evidence on Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/AndriyK/Evidence. Proposals and comments may be placed on Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/AndriyK/Proposed decision. Fred Bauder 02:26, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rasputin

Thank you for your thoughts and your compliment. Poka. JackofOz 00:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Antigona

If you're confident it's a copyvio, bag it and tag it. I have no objection. | Klaw ¡digame! 21:59, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jacques Lafleur

Hello again! Yes, my question was on whether to strike, delete, or leave the listing on the Pages needing translation page. So per your suggestion, I'll leave it. Thanks! | Klaw ¡digame! 21:48, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's good to know - I wasn't aware of that policy. I usually just translate them as I bring them over (as I just did with Las armas secretas). Or I guess I could nominate an article for a Translation of the Week if it was something I couldn't handle. Anyway, thanks for the help and the kind words! | Klaw ¡digame! 22:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

AfD for Nikolay Volkov

Thanks for doing the AfD for Nikolay Volkov, I was going to do it myself, but I just wanted to make sure that the discussion was not still active. I had to fix your nomination though: the AfD subpage was not transculded into today's list of AfDs, and was also missing the L2 heading for the page name.

After you put {{subst:afd}} on a page, click the [show] link in the bottom right corner of the AfD box. I always cut-and-paste from that; it has some templates and reminders to help get the AfD nomination done correctly.

Jamie ^{(talk/contribs)} 00:40, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing for me! I haven't used "subst" before; should have checked what it rendered. - Introvert ^talk 00:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Democratic Youth Federation of Iraq - AfD closing

Most (if not all) of the votes to delete were conditional based on the articles being written in Arabic instead of English. As one of the articles was rewritten as a stub in English, I presumed the delete votes were invalid. I suppose we could have the articles redirected to the main party article instead, though, if the content is insufficient to merit a separate article. Johnleemk | Talk 07:47, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

С Новым Годом!

. --Irpen

Thanks

I would like to express my thanks to all the good people who spent their valuable time time and effort working on my (failed) RfA voting. Especially for those who actually voted to support me :). You really put a great effort into preparing this RfA, I really appreciate it. Lets move on and make together our Wikipedia an even greater place abakharev 09:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Hi, thanks for pointing out the need for updating the DYK template to Jengod. I was off after updating DYK as it was past the bed-time here. I like the title of the article, as it resembles an oxymoron. As a formality, I'm leaving you with the DYK notification. Thanks again, --Gurubrahma 06:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AndriyK RfAr closed

The AndriyK RfAr has been closed. Until by consensus he has agreed to a suitable and mutually agreed naming convention using the guideline Wikipedia:Naming conflict, AndriyK is prohibited from moving pages, or changing the content of articles which relate to Ukrainian names, especially those of historical interest. AndriyK is banned for one month from Wikipedia for creating irreversible page moves. Andrew Alexander, AndriyK, and MaryMaidan are warned to avoid copyright violations and to cooperate with the efforts of others to remove copyright violations. Ghirlandajo is warned to avoid incivility or personal attacks.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Kelly Martin (talk) 04:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

French Wikipedia

Well, thank you Introvert/Vera for adding any interlanguage links on French Wikipedia. That's already a good stuff. :o) Hégésippe | ±Θ± 01:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Hégésippe :) -- I actually felt that it was important to clarify some past discussion here in the English wilipedia, so I made a comment there. Kind regards - Vera - Introvert ^~? 02:00, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your voting!

Hi, thanks for your voting on my RFA. It has finished with the result 88/14/9, and I am promoted. I am really overwhelmed with the amount of support I have got. With some of you we have edited many articles as a team, with some I had bitter arguments in the past, some of you I consider to be living legends of Wikipedia and some nicks I in my ignorance never heard before. I love you all and I am really grateful to you.

If you feel I can help you or Wikipedia as a human, as an editor or with my newly acquired cleaning tools, then just ask and I will be happy to assist. If you will feel that I do not live up to your expectation and renegade on my promises, please contact me. Maybe it was not a malice but just ignorance or a short temper. Thank you very much, once more! abakharev 07:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Irpen

¡salud!

Привет! Хоть уже и девятое число, я хотел бы тебя поздравить с праздником :). Я очень рад, что в wiki есть такие люди как ты, делающие так много ради общего блага.

p.s. Просто я немного разочарован последними событиями в ru.wiki (Ярославлев, споры, скандалы, блокировки ценных участников) и, увидев твоё сообщение в своём обсуждении, подумал, что не все так плохо :).--fatal_exception ^?! 00:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From Russia with Love

Thanks! :-) -- exile The Wrong Man 03:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article in Lithuanian

Hi, just dropping a note that it was a complete vanity of worst kind. But I am very much impressed by how much effort and thought you gave to it. Cheers, Renata 14:47, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blood donation

No problem, and I hope my edit summary wasn't too brusque there. I think the USA's donation rules are fine by way of an example, as long as readers don't get the impression they're universal. (I was rather surprised to discover that Italy requires donors to fast before giving blood!) --Calair 05:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Выборы арбитров на Родине

Тебя номинировали. MaxSem 14:27, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Максим, спасибо за сообщение - Introvert ~? 02:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Вера, напиши всё-таки, согласна ты или нет. Это надо сделать до 12, лучше до 10 числа. MaxSem 10:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done... Maksim, so kind of you indeed to remember, and to remind me, but unfortunately, I have to decline the nomination. Belated congratulations with your brand-new power tools :) wish you a safe drive and all the best - Vera - Introvert ~? 03:37, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

London Protocol

Hello. At my Talk page, I replied to your message. President Lethe 04:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Summary by Alex Bakharev at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Irpen

Your have endorsed the summary by Alex Bakharev at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Irpen which misinforms the community. Alex Bakharev wrote about Russian architecture: "There is no discussion on the talk page, no suggestions on improving the article". In fact there was (and still is) a discussion on the talk page and solution has been proposed. (Please see Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Irpen#Comment_to_the_summary_by_Alex_Bakharev_and_others). I suggest you to withdraw your signature under the summary.--AndriyK 08:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I noticed your revert in Jewna article. I would be interested to find out what is known about her in Russian historiography. Could you share your thoughts about it? Does 'Jewna' mean something in Russian? I am very curious about everything regarding history of Lithuania. Could you respond in my talk page or in Jewna discussion page. I am interested to work on History of Lithuania articles in the future. Best Regards, Juraune 13:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you very much for your sincere and comprehensive answer. It is interesting to see the original sources of Lithuanian history translated nicely by you to English. I would like to share my thoughts about the name of the Princess Jewna. I don't know how it was written in Cyrillic, but it is very likely, that her name could be written Jeuna in Latin, 'u'instead of 'w', and in that case every native speaker of Lithuanian will tell you that her name means "Young" ('Jauna', diphthongs 'au' and 'eu' in Lithuanian pronounciation are almost the same), and her youngest and favorite son Jewnut, in Lithuanian is 'Jaunutis', the ending '-utis' means both masculine and diminutive, gentle name. I do not say that Jewna was Lithuanian, but it is very likely that when Gediminas married her, she was called by the name "Young". In Lithuanian historiography her name is written "Jaunė", 'ė' is pronounced as Russian 'э' and it is a linguistic reconstruction by the scientists in that field. If it is of interest to you, what do you think about my explanation? Best wishes! Juraune 20:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I have books available written in English and Lithuanian by acknowledged experts, I cannot hope to have a personal consultant in these matters in Lithuania, since these people are really busy in real life :) As to the meaning of the name as Eva or Eve, it is very likely, IMHO. She could have been Christened as a child by that name, but later... I am doing original research now, so I'll better finish. Best wishes! Juraune 14:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eva or Eva in Lithuanian is Yva, translated means Willow tree

Happy New Year!

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Happy New Year! (Ukrainian: З Новим Роком!, Russian: С Новым Годом!). I wish you in 2007 to be spared of the real life troubles so that you will continue to care about Wikipedia. We will all make it a better encyclopedia! I also wish things here run smoothly enough to have our involvement in Wikipedia space at minimum, so that we can spend more time at Main. --Irpen

New cat

Hi, Vera! Thanks for giving me a nudge regarding this. I am generally not very good with categories, so I am trying to avoid them whenever possible.

I think the general idea is quite good. The only thing I don't like, as you probably suspected, is the category name. "Country subdivisions of Russia" is not a term we use anywhere. "(Lists of) [a]dministrative divisions of the federal subjects of Russia" would be more in line with the terminology, but it's kind of long and unwieldy. Still, it's the best I can come up with. Also, subdivisions of Russia shouldn't go into this cat, because it is already the main article of Category:Subdivisions of Russia.

If you have any further ideas regarding the cat name, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll rename the one you created and start populating it in the next few days.

Again, thanks for your help! Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:17, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are, of course, absolutely right about omitting "the"—it's perfectly permissible to do so in headers, titles, and other places where space is at premium. Well, that's what my English grammar references tell me anyway :) I'll go with "administrative divisions of federal subjects of Russia". Omitting "administrative" is inadvisable because it is somewhat ambiguous—there are plenty of types of non-administrative divisions. I'll also add "subdivisions of Russia" as a see also link in the new cat.

One more time, thanks for your persistence and advice. See you around!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You make it sound as if I accused you of stealing credit or something :)) What I meant by "persistence" was not "занудство", but rather a motivation for me to further look at the category structure instead of thinking "I don't know how it works; to hell with it" :) Best wishes to you too, and I'm counting on seeing you around next time something like this surfaces!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wiestenthal pages

See Wikipedia:SU for more information—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uff

I have answered on User_talk:Alex_Bakharev#Uff_da_:.29 Alex Bakharev 06:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

8

Happy 8th of March, my good friend! You must not forget that the day originally signified the rebellion of the working women against the kitchen slavery and called for a refusal to accept the oppression and Babbittry of the household work! In our Soviet and Post-Soviet years the holiday has already changed the meaning to a wussy combination of St Valentine's and Mother's day but I kind of like the original meaning. But you stay joyful! You hear me? --Irpen.

...But if you also like it a little sweet and cheesy, here (Image:8march_landysh.jpg) is a different kind of image and here is a full context. --Irpen

Spanish language Lamar HS article

I moved JP90's article for him - it is now at es:Escuela Secundaria Lamar (Houston) WhisperToMe 05:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open!

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