User talk:Jerdle

Introduction to contentious topics

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Note especially that you are not allowed to edit in the IP area (broadly constructed) before you have 500 edits, cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm familiar with that policy, but the Siege of Masada is distant enough that I thought it was outside of the contentious topic restrictions, especially given that the Masada myth page is not ECP, and neither are the other pages about Masada or the Siege of Masada. Jerdle (talk) 22:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is (mostly) about the importance of the myth in modern Israel, and as such clearly are under the IP editing restriction. That it is (still) not formally marked ECP does not change that; cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So are most things regarding modern Israel that are in any way political under the contentious topics policy? I get that they're broadly interpreted, but this would be incredibly broad. Jerdle (talk) 02:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is (incredibly broad, that is). It includes anything from food (Hummus, Za'atar, Tabbouleh, or Falafel) to academics (Ian Lustick, Benny Morris).

The IP area is probably the most contestet area on Wikipedia; AFAIK, it has been to arbcom more times than any other subject on WP. And especially now, (when the RL "temperature" is higher than it has ever been in my near 19 years on WP), the tolerance for disruption, or editors not following the rules, is close to zero, cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have now put an edit-notice on the Masada myth-article. Be warned: lots of articles exist that are under ECP, but are not marked as such, (especially newly created articles), Huldra (talk) 23:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CTOPs notice: GENSEX, BLP

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These are a bit less stringent than Israel-Palestine (editors of all levels of experience are allowed to edit these topics), but general CTOPs expectations of behavior are still expected. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, wasn't aware those qualified as contentious. Jerdle (talk) 17:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]