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Hi - it's great to see your updates on Walker, since so many early politicians have such small articles. However, we really need sources for all that great info. Where did you get it from? (Without sources the information will have to be deleted or at least have a big tag saying it's unreferenced - and that would be a pity.) Frickeg (talk) 07:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And bravo - the information's great! Frickeg (talk) 23:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The original article Edmund Mortimer combined two functions, disambiguous and an article on Edmund Mortimer, son of the 3rd Earl so I split it to make the disambiguous article and another one on the son of the 3rd Earl. I added an sBold text by mistake. I redid the article without the extra letter. The article with the exra letter should be deleted but I do not know how to do it.

Andrew Tink

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Thanks for you help with that article. I had some time off during the Christmas hols and thought I would chance my arm by contributing to the articles on former NSW Politicians that looked a bit bare. I started on Andrew Tink, but didn't get time to finish it. You have done a brilliant job of summarizing his legislative career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nswpollie (talkcontribs) 23:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Tink

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Thanks for you help with that article. I had some time off during the Christmas hols and thought I would chance my arm by contributing to the articles on former NSW Politicians that looked a bit bare. I started on Andrew Tink, but didn't get time to finish it. You have done a brilliant job of summarizing his legislative career. Thanks also for tidying up contributions - I am still getting the hang of Wiki protocols — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nswpollie (talkcontribs) 23:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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1948 Arab–Israeli War --The lede is under discussion at Talk

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Please observe protocol on issues being discussed in Talk [1] A self revert might be appropriate. Thx talknic (talk) 21:29, 6 July 2012 (UTC)  Done Thanks talknic (talk) 06:29, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I can't help. You're stuck with it

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[2] talknic (talk) 08:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Declaration of Independence

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The reason the caption on "purpose" in the DOI article uses the phrase Mandate Palestine is because that is the common name for the territory, whereas "Eretz Israel" was the Jewish name for it (this is why the article on the territory is not called Eretz Israel"). The link you provided also states "On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the State of Israel.", which suggests the phrasing of the purpose is correct as it stands. Number 57 09:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Walker

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Hi. I removed the family history stuff because it really isn't relevant to Walker's biography. None of his children are notable, so they don't need to be listed beyond the number of children. If I've overlooked someone notable let me know, but we do not need to know their birthdates or even their full names since they were, as far as I can tell, not notable. There are people in his ancestry who are notable, and I've actually included them further up the article. The stuff about his wife's ancestry is debatable but again, if they aren't notable they do not need to be noted in an article about Walker. It's a biography, not a family history. Frickeg (talk) 23:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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UNGA 67/19

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nice edits and background info, just to say though that per grammaical proper nouns "resolution" and "state" are not proper nouns. Per the latter, when in quotes then its okey to use it (though with "Sic)(Lihaas (talk) 23:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC)).[reply]

I agree with you (and the UN usage is wrong, probably political), but that specifically for when its in uquotes (where the section usage does have that?)(Lihaas (talk) 09:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)).[reply]

Flinders

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Hi,

I thought I'd bring this edit [3] to your attention, in case it got lost on your watchlist.

If this is indeed the case, perhaps a inline cite from your source you quoted in your comment, would help? --Inas (talk) 01:33, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Arabs stubbornly repudiated any compromise that provided for a Jewish state, no matter what its borders were to be

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I have offered you a compromise at 10Aug 2013.

Talk:United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Quotation_3:_Yoav_Gelber_.281_January_2006.29._Palestine_1948:_War.2C_Escape_And_The_Emergence_Of_The_Palestinian_Refugee_Problem What do we do further? ,Usually editors are accepting Gelber as a main stream historian. His Judgement is correct ( in my opinion) and shared with other Main stream Historians. If you do not agree may add another quote, which is correct in your view, together with Gelber quotation. Will you accept that?"

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Israel's lost in '48

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Hi,

Israel lost control a few squared kms at the Syrian borders : see this map. Pluto2012 (talk) 18:33, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

request for comment

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Hi, I request your input concerning your recent revert(or self-revert).--PLNR (talk) 20:12, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Tink Wentworth

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Might you have his book with perhaps some details of his opinion of the birth date ? --Dave Rave (talk) 10:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On page 8 of Tink's book (2009):

As D'Arcy set out with the heavily pregnant Catherine for Norfolk Island on 1 August 1790, he .... Early victualling records clearly show that when Darcy and Catherine arrived on Norfolk Island in mid-August, they were accompanied by the infant William Crowley. But when that infant, later known as William Charles Wentworth, died in England ...

On page 52 of Ritchie's (1997) book:

...where they sheltered in Cascade Bay. On Friday 13 August 1790 it blew a squall. That day, while the Surprize was anchored in the bay's protected waters, Catherine Crowley gave birth to a son who was to be named William.

Tink, despite the dogmatic date by Ritchie, leaves the date simply as between 1 August and mid-August. You can say that he was born in August 1790, but the exact date is in doubt. The best I can do is to put a question mark before 13. Trahelliven (talk) 01:39, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Declaration of Independence

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I don't really want to go through the whole tedious discussion again, so just a reminder that we use the common name of the territory (i.e. the name that matches the article title) – Eretz Israel was the Jewish community's name for the Mandate territory, and in reliable English sources the declaration is translated as "Palestine" (hence why the NYT source is added).

I would also add that we should be using Mandatory Palestine to give context to the following sentence "Legally the Mandate was to terminate midnight", as otherwise the reader has no idea what mandate is being referred to. Number 57 08:18, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am bemused by your most recent edit summary. My first edit was an edit, not a revert of anything. I have reverted once. You, on the other hand, have now reverted twice in under an hour. Please self-revert or I will file a report at WP:AE. Thanks, Number 57 08:57, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As you haven't self-reverted or even bothered to respond, I have filed a complaint at WP:AE. See Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Trahelliven. Number 57 17:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I added text I had started working on..... and reorganised a bit. See User:Ariconte/Thomas Reid (Electrical Engineer).

The article still needs more work. As usual I'm good at the refs but poor at text composition. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 21:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Now moved my draft to article space, and redirected to your article. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 00:48, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, at the moment this is likely to be swiftly re-directed; do you have any sources to show she meets WP:BIO / WP:GNG? Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 11:13, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict...please fill out my survey?

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Hello :) I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.

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The Wentworths

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I am quite delighted to come across a descendant of the Wentworths. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading Andrew Tink's biography of William Charles Wentworth. I have also read a booklet about W C, William Charles Wentworth of Vaucluse House, first published in 1918. I haven't yet read Carol Liston's biography of Sarah Wentworth.

William Wentworth has become a pet interest of mine and I found Vaucluse House (to which I am likely to go again soon) fascinating. I take it from a photograph you uploaded to Sarah Wentworth's article, which I will note I created, that you've been.

As well as creating the article for the Wentworth-Bland flag I custom-ordered a rough reproduction of it which I display on my wall. I wonder if you hold any artefacts from your illustrious ancestors William and Sarah, though they are not the only ones. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 13:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was at the launch of Andrew Tink's book. I also have the books by Carol Liston, John Ritchie, Deer and Barr, K R Cramp and Collins de Persse and the 1982 Guide book to Vaucluse House. I designed the plaque to Sarah now in the Mausoleum. If you are available during the week, I ams sure that I can arrange a visit to the House and the Mausoleum since I note that you live in Sydney. I live in Randwick. Trahelliven (talk) 20:42, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Trahelliven That is a terrific offer and I intend to take you up on it if not next week then sometime soon. My email address is thorpewilliam02@gmail.com if you wish to communicate there.
Some months ago I attempted to reach out to Tink to compliment his book which I have since mentioned to a few people.
Kind regards, Will Thorpe (talk) 13:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew Tink is not very well which is why he left Parliament. I suggest that you leave him be. Trahelliven (talk) 03:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]