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While this phrase certainly exists, and is used ad nauseum, there is no in-depth coverage of the phrase itself, simply examples of its use.
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@Onel5969: I apologize for publishing this page without a meta-source that covers the use of this phrase, which I agree is necessary for this article to be a full representation of the topic (though that is a rule of course, regardless of whether I agree). I have been reading into some articles and research about clickbait journalism, including ones with keyword statistics, but I have yet to find a substantial reference to "and that's a good thing". With that being said, my research limits have not been exhausted, and I'm continuing to investigate for proper sourcing. In fact, publishing the page once I had a good foundation of examples came with the hope that the community might help take a look with me, but I suppose we will see if I'm on my own. Is there a set timeframe in which I have to curate proper metas-sources on top of the direct examples I have before further action is taken? I intend to continue working on the article as my main project, I just wanted it out there once I had reached this stage of development so other interested users could find it and hopefully contribute. Thanks The Star Baron (talk) 16:45, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Star Baron, no worries. It's one of those things which has become so endemic throughout society, it's like, "it must be notable, right?" But without that sourcing, it's simply a WP:ESSAY. I could have moved it into draft to let you work on it, which is always an option, but felt other editors might assist in finding sources. However, there's no set timeframe for how long it will stay up. It could get nominated for deletion this afternoon, it might last months. I doubt that it will get marked "reviewed" in its present state, simply from the lack of in-depth sourcing. Researching sourcing is a bear, due to how often the phrase itself is used. If you do come up with solid sourcing, and would like me to take another look at it, feel free to ping me. Onel5969TT me16:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi The Star Baron. Thanks for your work on improving Draft:History of French bureaucracy. A Draft doesn't have to be perfect to be released as an article in main space, it just needs to have enough well-sourced content to demonstrate WP:Notability. I think the content that is there now would be sufficient, if it were sourced with citations inline.
To encourage you and make it easier, I have created a § Further reading section at the Draft, with six good sources on the topic, which may either help you source existing content, or be useful to develop new content for the article. Either way, these are all good source that would establish Notability, if they were used as inline citations for relevant content. They are all in French; I see that you have an fr-1 box on your user page, so I'm not sure if French sources are a problem for you, but if you can get the gist but have trouble understanding particular phrases, let me know and I can help. Keep up the good work; this Draft deserves to be released. Mathglot (talk) 23:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found one more source, Thuillier (2020), that is a 600-page book on the history of French bureaucracy, with the full text of it available online. You could write the whole article based on that source alone. Mathglot (talk) 03:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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