Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Archive debates/2009 June index
The following is an alphabetical index of decisions made at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
| Category | Decision | Discussion_log |
|---|---|---|
| <Country> songs by artist | merge | June 7 |
| Category:"City/Town topics" templates | rename | June 3 |
| Category:10 Things I Hate About You | delete | June 2 |
| Category:2002 Cincinnati Masters | relisted to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_July_15#Category:2002_Cincinnati_Masters, | June 17 |
| Category:2009 swine flu outbreak | Rename | June 21 |
| Category:2010s American television series | Keep. Well, that is what I was going to do but someone emptied the category and an admin deleted it ignoring the fact that it was being discussed here. So, if anyone wants to recreate this category they can do it. The out of process deletion should not be used as grounds for any deletion without a full discussion here | June 13 |
| Category:2010s automobiles | Keep. Nothing has changed since the last discussion was closed as a keep. Even if that discussion was not had this could easly be closed as WP:SNOW | June 13 |
| Category:20th century people | Delete. I wish there was more discussion here. But since the normal keepers did not comment on this parent nomination, it has not opposition and should be deleted. Maybe everyone is waiting for the discussions on the subcategories which will not be as easy to decide | June 20 |
| Category:20th-century people by nationality | Keep | June 29 |
| Category:A Nightmare on Elm Street films | Delete | June 10 |
| Category:A380 ready Airports | delete | June 1 |
| Category:Abc radio | Delete | June 17 |
| Category:Abstract objects | no consensus | June 9 |
| [[:Category:Academics of the Hochschule für "Musik Carl Maria von Weber", Dresden -> Category:Academics of the Hochschule für Musik "Carl Maria von Weber", Dresden]] | Rename | June 26 |
| Category:ACB league players | Rename. To be honest, I'm a little unsure about the rationale for changing "managers" to "head coaches", but no one has objected, so ... | June 17 |
| Accused Soviet spies | delete "accused of" is a blp issue | June 3 |
| Accused spies | Delete. Nice to have an easy decision! | June 11 |
| Action film series | delete all | June 30 |
| Category:Actor-politicians | No consensus. I hate this after so long, but this is where the consensus, or lack of consensus lies. While I did ask a question in the discussion, I did not opine a direction so closing this should be OK, especially given the large open backlog | June 22 |
| Category:AFI 100 Years… series | Delete | June 21 |
| Category:African American metal groups | Delete. (Was already deleted as empty at close.) | June 1 |
| Category:African American rock groups | Delete. (Was already deleted as empty at close.) | June 1 |
| Afro-Italian Americans | Upmerge (empty at close). Per the request to identify who emptied the category: I've no idea who did and there is no easy way of finding out. | June 9 |
| Category:Albums by length | UPMERGE contents of Category:Albums by length to Category:Albums | June 15 |
| Category:Alumni of Templeton College, Oxford | Rename all 3 | June 23 |
| Category:American Film Institute alumni | Rename to Category:American Film Institute Conservatory alumni. No opposes to making more specific with 'conservatory'; general agreement on acronym expansion. Even if AFI were to be the institution's formal name, it's not unambiguous for this purpose. AFI also commonly stands for Australian Film Institute, for eg. With the acronym expanded you know what's in the can | June 9 |
| Category:American politicians who support same-sex marriage | delete (thanks to bearcat for the laugh) | June 3 |
| Category:ANCSA | Rename | June 21 |
| Category:Anti-fascists | Keep | June 11 |
| Category:Arab actors | No consensus | June 25 |
| Category:Archived image and media for deletion discussions | rename | June 4 |
| Category:Articles by class | Delete for now. Could be re-created under a better name, if one can be had. | June 10 |
| Category:Articles to be split | No consensus. I think that | June 16 |
| Category:Articles to be split | relisted to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_June_16#Category:Articles_to_be_split | June 4 |
| Category:Atheist and agnostic politicians | delete. I find the questions raised below about the relative notability of the category between countries to be compelling. I also have a problem with the categories being run together -- and the inherent difficulty of categorizing when people don't agree on the exact definitions of the terms. While I have a great deal of sympathy for the difficulties faced by politicians in this category, it's far too general for use here. Subdivisions of the category should be fine, though | June 10 |
| Category:Atheist thinkers and activists | Rename to Category:Atheism activists. | June 9 |
| Category:Atlantic Records - "Labels distrusted by Atlantic Records." | Do not delete. Looks like a misunderstanding/typo more than anything else. Could be renominated for a rename per Occuli's suggestion. I've added one parent category. | June 29 |
| BAFTA actor award winners | Rename | June 22 |
| BAFTA actor award winners |  Relisted at 2009 JUN 22 now that CfD immediately above has been resolved. |
June 12 |
| Category:BAFTA Awards | Do not rename | June 12 |
| BBC World News categories | rename per nom | June 27 |
| Category:Beach volleyball in Turkey | delete | June 25 |
| Category:Beetlejuice | delete | June 2 |
| Category:Belarusian Polish people | Rename | June 28 |
| Category:Bennett S. LeBow | delete | June 8 |
| Category:Berne | rename all | June 9 |
| Category:Billboard Hot Dance Club Play number-one singles | Renme | June 18 |
| Category:Billboard Modern Rock Tracks number-one singles | rename per nom | June 18 |
| Category:Birthday Committee | rename to Category:Wikipedia Birthday Committee | June 17 |
| Category:Black Muslims | Delete. There is no reason that I can see to having a category for a single DAB page, especially when dab pages generally are not categoriized! | June 24 |
| Category:Black rock musicians | delete. From Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality#Race: "Categories should not be based on race unless the race has a specific relation to the topic." Consensus has pretty consistently held that the amount of pigment in a rock musician's skin does not constitute a defining characteristic for the purposes of categorization. This is a separate consideration from ethnicity, which may in some cases be defining | June 3 |
| Category:Blondie cartoonists | Upmerge | June 26 |
| Category:Blur | Rename | June 28 |
| Category:Books by Barack Obama | Keep | June 7 |
| Category:Born of Ishimbay | Rename | June 21 |
| Category:Bosniaks | no consensus | June 3 |
| Brandy categories | rename all as nominated. – | June 22 |
| Category:Brat Pack films | delete | June 2 |
| Category:Brothel-keepers by nationality | Merge. As pointed out by the nominator, because the category was removed from Category:Sex workers by nationality, the rationale for having the category does not exist anymore and merely adds an unnecessary extra layer to the scheme. | June 24 |
| Category:Brothel-keepers | rename to Category:American brothel owners (without the "-", based on prevailing usage) and upmerge as nominated. No action on Category:Australian brothel-keepers and Category:British brothel-keepers as they were not nominated. – | June 7 |
| Category:Canadien graffiti artists | rename | June 3 |
| Category:Canterbury sound | Rename to Category:Canterbury scene. Grutness's examples are persuasive here. If we want to disambiguate all of these "musical style" categories, then let's have someone propose that, but no need to single this one out for special treatment. | June 15 |
| Category:Cartoon Network shows | rename | June 9 |
| Category:Cast Iron and its alloys | delete | June 7 |
| Categories:Formerly papal congregations... | Upmerge to Category:Church buildings established in the 11th century and so on for the other categories. I think think that this restores the way things were before a lot of changes. And this is where consensus appears to be. Also this is the least damaging way to remove these categories which seem to be problematic. I'd suggest that if anyone has a need to break these out, that they have a discussion to develop a consensu on what the correct name should be before creating more categories | June 9 |
| Category:Cathedrals | Keep. (Also, category was not tagged with a CfD template.) | June 26 |
| Category:Celtic music instruments | G6 Speedy merged to Category:Celtic musical instruments Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • | June 2 |
| Category:Century old churches in the Philippines | merge. While the idea of reorganizing the tree by century instead has merit, it appears to require added discussion around a change to the current organizational consensus. Even with the upmerge, the parent category won't be inordinately large, so creating the proposed categories doesn't require this to remain in place in the meantime | June 20 |
| Category:CfD 2009-06 | Do not rename to proposed name. | June 9 |
| Category:Characters by novel nationality | Upmerge to Category:Characters in written fiction which is the parent. It is clear that the name is a major problem. There are also strong cases being made to delete this category, or in one case to even delete the children. By upmerging we address the issue with the name and anyone who has an interest can work to develop a better solution. I'd suggest the talk page of the merge target | June 20 |
| Category:Charitable organizations | Merge | June 25 |
| Category:Chinese Buddhism | Rename | June 11 |
| Category:Chowder | delete | June 4 |
| Category:Cinderella | Rename | June 10 |
| cinema to film | rename all | June 1 |
| Category:Cities and towns in Azad Kashmir | merge | June 8 |
| Category:Cities in the Great Lakes Area | Upmerge to Category:Cities in the Great Rift Valley for now, mainly because the "area" is not clearly defined. However, similar concerns might also be relevant to the target (Category:Cities in the Great Rift Valley), but that would need to be addressed in a new CfD. If someone creates a category for cities or settlements that are actually on the lakes, that would also have to be addressed in a new CfD. | June 8 |
| Category:City's tallest buildings | delete | June 11 |
| Category:Civil rights protests | Do not rename. (Personally, I think it's folly to argue that either protests encompass all demonstrations or that demonstrations encompass all protests. Why not split the baby and make Category:Civil rights protests and demonstrations? Oh well ...) | June 14 |
| Category:Classical guitar | keep | June 1 |
| Category:Club Atlético Platense players | merge both to Category:Club Atlético Platense footballers | June 1 |
| Category:Coastal settlements of the East Riding of Yorkshire | rename to Category:Coastal settlements in the East Riding of Yorkshire | June 7 |
| Category:Composers for guitar | rename | June 1 |
| Category:Converts from Transcendentalist Movement to Roman Catholicism | delete | June 30 |
| Category:Country singles with RIAA gold certification | Renamed with an assist from Jéské Couriano. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • | June 28 |
| Category:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Dual License | Delete | June 20 |
| Category:Criticisms | no consensus | June 1 |
| Category:Culturally significant graffiti | Merge | June 26 |
| Category:Culture by continent | Keep | June 12 |
| Current and former Indian and Pakistani politicians | rename/merge per nom | June 8 |
| Cutaneous conditions | Rename all | June 5 |
| Category:CW4Kids shows | rename | June 9 |
| Category:Dead or Alive characters | Delete (ratify upmerge). | June 25 |
| Category:Deaths due to stag attacks | Delete | June 23 |
| Category:Decapitated | delete. – | June 23 |
| Category:Deductive theories | Rename | June 7 |
| Category:DEUS albums | Rename | June 15 |
| Category:Deutsche Bundespost Berlin stamp images | Delete Note that this is empty | June 24 |
| Category:Deutsche Bundespost stamp images | Delete Note that this is empty | June 24 |
| Category:Developmental proteins | Rename. Note I'm changing the spelling of protens to proteins | June 21 |
| Category:Diet food writers | No consensus to delete. Someone could propose a rename in a new discussion. | June 10 |
| Category:Diet food writers | relisted on june 10 | June 2 |
| Category:Diplomatic conflict | delete | June 8 |
| Category:Districts in Scotland | no consensus | June 3 |
| Category:Dovecote singles | Rename | June 19 |
| Category:Dragonlance organizations | No consensus, except on the fact that | June 24 |
| Category:Dutch admirals by century | Delete the first and merge the rest | June 20 |
| Category:Eastern Orthodox congregations established in the 11th century | rename both | June 25 |
| Category:Ecology of Africa | keep and repopulate | June 1 |
| Category:Ecology of the British Isles | keep | June 1 |
| Category:Ecology of the United States by state | keep and repopulate | June 1 |
| Category:English-language websites | Delete | June 28 |
| Category:Entities involved in United States housing bubble | delete | June 3 |
| Category:Ergo Proxy | delete | June 1 |
| Category:Eurochart Hot 100 number-one singles | Rename | June 11 |
| Category:European people by ethnic or national origin | No consensus | June 28 |
| Category:Fast Folk artists | keep | June 5 |
| Category:FC Porto | rename all | June 9 |
| Category:Federal preemption law (United States) | Rename to Category:United States federal preemption law | June 28 |
| Category:Female diplomats | No consensus. | June 22 |
| Category:Fictional characters who are implied to be the devil | Delete | June 18 |
| Film acting awards | rename | June 1 |
| Category:Film awards for Best Animated Feature | Rename | June 10 |
| Category:Film awards for Best Cast | no consensus While we should be removing the POV and subjective "best", I <ahem> agree with Alan that the target name is potentially confusing. We know what it will mean because we have seen what the original name was and why it was changed. But anyone looking at "Films awards for casts" for the first time? I <ahem> also briefly thought of broken bones when I saw the recommended name. Since this close doesn't fix the "best" problem, I suggest a renomination to try and find a name that is clear and NPOV. (shoo, I think I need to go for a walk. Two times in one paragraph? I'll have to play 617 in the lottery) | June 9 |
| Category:Film awards for Best Costume Design | Rename | June 12 |
| Category:Film genres by music genre | Rename to Category:Films by music genre | June 29 |
| Film series | Delete. In digging through the nominated categories you find other navigation aids that do a better job. Everything from main articles, to templates, to dab pages. So for this subset I don't see a problem with deletion based on the strength of the arguments. I will add that this decision does not mean that everything in Category:Film series can or should be deleted. If anyone wants additional deletions, I suggest that they be nominated on a one by one basis for discussion | June 20 |
| Category:Films about patriots | Delete | June 17 |
| Category:Films by length | Delete all. The list of articles that were included in the categories for five hours and above have been placed in a list on the article talkpage. | June 23 |
| Category:Films dealing with nuclear war and weapons | Rename | June 27 |
| Category:Films directed by Errol Morris | Keep | June 15 |
| Category:Films set in impoverished urban neighborhoods | Delete | June 17 |
| Category:Finance by Country | speedied, debate not really necessary | June 30 |
| Category:Finnish people of Vietnamese descent | keep | June 7 |
| Category:Fire disasters involving barricaded escape routes | No consensus to delete; a proposal to change the name may be appropriate at this stage. | June 8 |
| Category:Flemish nobility | No consensus, but a rename to Category:Nobility of Flanders or something similar could be proposed in a new nomination. | June 17 |
| Category:Former Grand Ole Opry members | Merge | June 17 |
| Category:Former Members of the Knesset | Merge | June 17 |
| Category:Former Shortland Street characters | Merge | June 17 |
| Category:Former Soviet Union cameras | rename | June 9 |
| Category:Former Yugoslav Political parties | Delete | June 17 |
| Category:Free Haskell software | rename | June 5 |
| Category:Full Motion Video | rename | June 4 |
| Category:Gainesville musical groups | Rename | June 24 |
| Category:GameCube emulators | delete | June 8 |
| Category:Gardening hypermarkets | DELETE | June 16 |
| Category:German Jews who emigrated to the United States to escape Nazism | No consensus | June 26 |
| Category:German-American politicians | delete | June 14 |
| Category:GOOD Music albums | Nominator withdrawal: per the discussion below. | June 14 |
| Category:Guilty Gear characters | Delete (ratify emptying). | June 25 |
| Category:Gun fu films | Keep | June 13 |
| H games to Eroge | rename to match article. If "H game" turns out to be the preferred name for the article, we can quickly revert the category change | June 9 |
| Category:Halloween (film series) | Rename to Category:Halloween (franchise) | June 6 |
| Category:Haroon albums | Close so it can be deleted via C1 as empty. NAC. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • | June 10 |
| Category:Hawaii Warriors athletic directors | Rename | June 23 |
| Category:Hebrew names | Rename to Category:Hebrew-language names. Consensus seems to be in favor of some form to retain the category. Based on the later discussions, this is probably the option that is most likely to retain consensus in the long run | June 7 |
| Category:Heinrich Mann Prize winner | G7 Author suppored the rename, so I boldly renamed it. NAC. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • | June 19 |
| Category:Heritage | delete | June 3 |
| Category:History of ideas | keep | June 1 |
| Category:Hit songs written by Eric Carmen | Merge (and yes, the nominated category will be deleted, which I add just to avoid confusion). | June 28 |
| Category:Homophobic political parties | speedy delete. WP:G10 is a general criteria, not just for articles or material about people; here, the category "serve[s] no purpose but to disparage ... [its] subject" | June 25 |
| Category:Honorverse organizations | Delete per the rationale in the nomination and WP:CRYSTAL. Given that all of the included redirects, some of which have few if any incoming inks, are include in one place making navigation easy. If these are splitout into articles at some later date, then adding them to Category:Honorverse would be a good starting point | June 21 |
| Category:Horror films set in Egypt | Delete | June 11 |
| Category:Hospitals affected by the 2003 SARS outbreak | delete | June 3 |
| Category:Hotels built in the Soviet Union | No consensus to rename to this, but a new nomination to rename to something that indicates that this is an architectural style may be appropriate. | June 24 |
| Category:House of Taillifer | Rename | June 17 |
| Category:Hugo | Delete | June 20 |
| Category:Hull | Rename. No redirects should be used, but DAB categories could be where needed. | June 27 |
| Category:Hydropower stations in Africa | Rename | June 14 |
| Category:Iconic characters | Delete. I'll add that both keep opinions were from the one editor, the category creator | June 11 |
| Category:Ideologically motivated attacks in the United States perpetrated by Muslims | Rename | June 23 |
| Category:Ideologies | keep | June 8 |
| Category:Ilona albums | Delete (move ratified) | June 27 |
| Category:Ilona songs | Delete (move ratified) | June 27 |
| Category:Images for redraw | Administrative close. Deleted by another user as an empty category. | June 12 |
| Category:Images of Long Island Rail Road stations | SPEEDY DELETED, empty and creator requested deletion | June 4 |
| Category:Images of rappers | IMPROPER LISTING. No CFD notice posted on category, no rationale given, no response to request for explanation | June 15 |
| Category:Incarcerated rappers | Delete. While there was some support for a rename, the discussion points out flaws for inclusion with the current and proposed renames. If anyone develops a name that addresses the concerns and possible POV or BLP issues with a new category they can create it | June 24 |
| Category:Incarcerated rappers | RELISTED on June 24 2009 because of failure to post CFD notice on category | June 15 |
| Indian Army | Rename all per nom | June 30 |
| Category:International Banks | delete both, overcategorisation / arbitrary inclusion criteria | June 3 |
| Category:Invader Zim | delete | June 8 |
| Category:Invasive species by country | Rename to Category:Lists of invasive species. Note that as a result of this change, some articles will no longer be appropriate for inclusion | June 6 |
| Category:Irish Roman Catholic saints | Keep. (Also, the category was only tagged for first 2½ days of this discussion b/c it was removed by the nominator. I'm not sure if that indicates an intention to withdraw the nomination, but in any case it would probably invalidate any decision to merge or rename the category.) | June 12 |
| Category:Islamic travel writers | Renaming to Category:Medieval Islamic travel writers to clarify category's purpose and to be uniform with corresponding Jewish category. Certainly it should be purged of modern travel writers who happen to be Muslim or from the Islamic world. | June 10 |
| Category:Isley Brothers members | Speedy close following rename and CSD of original by creator. Non-admin closure. ~ Amory ( | June 18 |
| Israeli basketball league | rename both | June 9 |
| Category:Italian-American politicians | no consensus. The "delete" argument is that there is nothing special about Italian-American politicians; the "keep" argument is that this is a well-documented ethnicity in politics | June 14 |
| Category:Jewish actors | "Strong" no consensus. (In my opinion, it would be useful if we could avoid the idea that any one opinion is going to be given any extra weight by a closer when the user appends "strong" to whatever the opinion is. Hopefully everyone realizes that there is no way to jack your vote up to a "supervote". As long as there's no misunderstanding in that regard and it's merely a way of expressing an extra degree of passion about an issue, by all means carry on. ...) | June 16 |
| Category:Jewish American models | Delete | June 11 |
| Category:Jewish astronauts | no consensus | June 11 |
| Category:Jewish bankers | Delete | June 1 |
| Category:Jewish chess players | No consensus | June 11 |
| Category:Jewish conductors | Delete. The arguments in favor of deletion are confirmed by the lack of any substantial sign that this is a defining intersection. | June 11 |
| Category:Jewish economists | Speedily deleted G4. | June 10 |
| Category:Jewish fashion designers | no consensus | June 8 |
| Category:Jewish fraudsters and all sub-categories in Category:Jews by occupation | Delete, but only for this category. Of the sample of the other categories that I checked they were not nominated so that can not be deleted based on current consensus | June 6 |
| Category:Jewish inventors | Listify. On one hand there is a case made that the intersection of Jewish and inventor is not notable. On the other a case is made that ethnicity can be notable. The problem here is what it has been in many of the previous discussions. That being that no case is made that this is a defining characteristic and not merely a dumping place for people who have this intersection | June 15 |
| Category:Jewish journalists | Delete | June 1 |
| Category:Jewish philologists | Delete | June 1 |
| Category:Jewish physicians | Delete | June 1 |
| Jewish shutterbugs | Delete. In reading through this, the deletes seem to have a better case. I sympathize with those who want to keep these and use the same words over and over in multiple CfDs. I too have been on the losing side of discussions that I felt very passionate about. While some of these have been the focus in various publications, that does not mean that this classification is defining for everyone who meets the religion/national/religious/ethnic part of the name. And that is a problem with many of these categories. They become a dumping ground for everyone who is a member of A and B. Defining for the individual is not a factor. So, if someone can come up with a similar category that addresses the need for this being defining in the name, then recreation should be considered | June 11 |
| Category:Jewish surnames | Upmerge to Category:Surnames pending development of a new scheme. This category may have to be re-created in some form depending on what scheme is developed. This close is essentially an appended close to the centralized discussion here, so please consult the other close for further information and details. (And for some reason, the Venn diagram is making me hungry.) | June 7 |
| Category:Jewish travel writers | Rename to Category:Medieval Jewish travel writers. This appears, as one editor mentioned, to be where consensus is pointing. In the end, it keeps most of the contents supporting the keep opinions and it focus the contents which hopefully address the issues raised in favor of deletion | June 10 |
| Jews by occupation | Withdrawn and split into separate nominations. Non-admin close | June 11 |
| Category:Jews by occupation | Administrative close. Only Category:Jews by occupation was tagged and listed, and as long as numerous subcategories for Jews of specific occupations exist, there is little sense in discussing deletion of this category, which solely acts as a holder for other categories. There is also the possibility that this is a WP:POINT nomination, as many have suggested (though I don't intend this to be a declaration that this was without question a bad-faith nomination) | June 14 |
| Category:Johnny Bravo | delete with recreation permissible if other articles are found or written | June 8 |
| Category:Junior footballers | rename | June 30 |
| Category:Justice Holmes cases | delete | June 8 |
| Category:Katsuhide Motoki films | Rename | June 6 |
| Category:Kennedy School, Harvard | Rename per nom. While I strongly believe that more categories and articles need to more fully describe the location in the titles, this is not the place to make that policy change. So given that the only issue appears to be, to include or not include Harvard, I read this as consensus for the proposal. If anyone believes that there is a policy that would support including Harvard in the name, they can renominate this at any time indicating the appropriate policy or guideline | June 29 |
| Category:Kep Municipality | Delete (ratify upmerge). | June 25 |
| Category:Khövsgöl | rename | June 1 |
| Category:Kids WB shows | rename | June 9 |
| Category:Kobe Bryant NBA championships | DELETE | June 15 |
| Category:Language acquisition researchers to Category:Developmental psycholinguists | Rename | June 9 |
| Category:Largest cities in U.S. states | Delete | June 11 |
| Category:Latina | Rename | June 21 |
| Category:Law in Oregon | Merge to Category:Oregon law | June 20 |
| Category:Laws of thought | Rename | June 11 |
| Leaders of the Opposition | Rename per nom | June 12 |
| Category:Legal occupations | rename to Category:Legal professions | June 7 |
| Category:León | merge both to Category:León (province) to match article | June 2 |
| LGAs of cities in Australia | Rename | June 17 |
| Category:LGBT fashion designers | keep | June 9 |
| Category:LGBT Organizations in Mississippi | Merge to Category:LGBT organizations in the United States | June 20 |
| Category:License migration | Rename. Subcategories would need to be nominated and listed to follow this rename. | June 13 |
| Category:Lietuvos Krepšinio Lyga Finals | Delete (ratify move). | June 25 |
| Category:Live USB and Category:USB-bootable Linux distributions | merge to Category:Live USB | June 9 |
| Locomotive designer and railway engineer categories | Rename the first as nominated. The nationality cats will be renamed to "Fooian railway mechanical engineers" per Andy's suggestion in the CfD immediately below. Note that this does not mean that the renamed categories could not be further broken down in categories for locomotive designers. Anyone can create these categories if they wish. | June 7 |
| Category:Lutherie | keep | June 1 |
| Category:Main topic classifications | No consensus | June 8 |
| Category:Major League Baseball players on the 2003 positive steroid test list | Speedy delete (had been emptied by time of close) | June 30 |
| Category:Maliyadeva College-related pages | Rename | June 27 |
| Category:Melodifestivalen songs of 2005 | Merge to Category:Melodifestivalen songs | June 28 |
| Category:Members of Les Enfoirés | Delete. The delete opinions present the better case. The only comment on keeping was that something is notable enough to warrant a category. If that was the case, then this event should be getting sufficient discussion in the articles of the performers. For the subset I looked at, this event is not even mentioned. So clearly the included articles do not support this as being a defining characteristic for the performers. So based on past consensus decisions, this is a clear delete | June 18 |
| Category:Miles Davis songs | Rename | June 25 |
| Category:Monophotic people | delete | June 9 |
| More former Indian politicians | merge to Category:Members of Legislative Council from Maharashtra, Category:Members of Legislative Assembly from Maharashtra, and Category:Members of Parliament from Maharashtra | June 17 |
| Murder, She Wrote | delete both | June 9 |
| Category:Murdered Iraqi children | Delete | June 17 |
| Category:Museum Movies | DELETE | June 15 |
| Category:Musical forms | no consensus. While people agree that something needs to be done, there is no consensus on whether "forms" is OK in the name of the category | June 10 |
| Musicians from Los Angeles | No consensus to rename as nominated; also no consensus to drop "California" from current name. Obviously, someone could just create the Greater LA categories and prune off the relevant articles in the LA,CA categories. | June 26 |
| Category:Nakba Films | Rename to Category:Films about the 1948 Palestinian exodus. (Incidentally, I have heard some rumblings lately of editors wanting to reinstate "Nakba" to all of these article and category names, but for now, it does seem best to stick with the common naming format. They can always be changed if consensus changes in that regard.) | June 17 |
| Category:Names by culture | Administrative close. I'm just going to close this discussion and give the nominator the chance to start it again if he wishes. The reason for this is that I have now closed the previous discussion, where I recommended some discussion before revising this system. I didn't "mandate" a "by language" system in that close, but it's certainly a possibility. This close is without prejudice to any future nomination for the category, whether it be for deletion or renaming. It can even be re-nominated immediately if desired. I just thought it would be helpful to have a starting point to go from now that the other discussion is closed. | June 16 |
| Category:National Renewal (Chile) políticals | Rename | June 17 |
| Category:Neighborhoods in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania | Delete | June 27 |
| Category:Neo-Byzantine buildings in the United States | rename | June 4 |
| Category:Nettwerk albums | merge | June 3 |
| Category:New York City musicians | rename both. Once the rename is done, anyone who cares enough to recreate the old name as a category redirect can do so; I'm not sure it's worth it, though | June 4 |
| Category:Newspapers and magazines established in 1992 | Merge | June 19 |
| Category:North Cascades of British Columbia | delete | June 4 |
| Category:Northern Irish television | Renme | June 18 |
| Category:Northwest League ballparks | No Consensus | June 25 |
| Category:Novels based on a film | rename | June 7 |
| Category:Number-one singles in Ireland | Rename | June 26 |
| Category:Number-one singles in the Netherlands | Rename | June 28 |
| Category:Orange foods | Delete | June 1 |
| Category:Organizations based in Germany | Redirect (category was empty at close). | June 23 |
| Category:Organizations in the Demonata series | Delete (ratify emptying). | June 25 |
| Category:Original Dixieland Jazz Band songs | keep | June 5 |
| Overseas categories | Rename | June 14 |
| Category:Pakistani hip hop singers | Upmerge/delete | June 5 |
| Palace Station vandal sockpuppet categories | Merge | June 12 |
| Category:Paleontological media | rename | June 29 |
| Category:Parodies of Wikipedia | Keep | June 26 |
| Category:People associated with e-mail controversies | Delete | June 8 |
| Category:People associated with Hurricane Katrina | delete | June 9 |
| Category:People by former political orientation | no consensus regarding "Expelled communists", merge/delete the rest per nom | June 9 |
| Category:People executed in effigie for treason against Poland | Delete, per consensus and given rationales of ocat and contradictory scope. As was noted all members' articles indicate 'sentencing to death in absentia'; accordingly, upmerging to Category:People sentenced to death in absentia as needed | June 6 |
| Category:People from Bedford Indiana | Merge | June 13 |
| Category:People from Hull (district) | Delete | June 27 |
| Category:People from Sheffield (district) | Merge all to Category:People from Sheffield. | June 28 |
| Category:People in the history of Worcestershire | Merge to Category:People from Worcestershire. The pre-1974 category can be nominated separately, since it wasn't tagged for this discussion. | June 6 |
| Category:People who are known by their middle name | Delete | June 21 |
| Category:People who entered the Witness Protection Program | Merge | June 17 |
| Category:People who have received honorary degrees from Yale University | Delete | June 17 |
| Category:Pharrell albums | Rename | June 27 |
| Category:Pi Records albums | Rename | June 15 |
| Category:Piano tuners | delete | June 18 |
| Pimps and madams | merge per revised nomination | June 7 |
| Category:Platense managers | rename | June 1 |
| Category:Platense | rename | June 1 |
| Category:Playstation Portable-only games | Rename | June 20 |
| Category:Politicians with criminal convictions | Merge | June 15 |
| Category:Pollution in Israel | Merge | June 14 |
| Category:Polygamy and the Latter Day Saint movement | No consensus | June 10 |
| Category:Polynesian flora | No consensus. The discussion points out many issues with the proposals. I think that it is clear that some type of rename is needed, the question is to what? Anyone interested is directed to the category talk page to discuss the issues and see if a consensus can be developed. If a consensus does develop there, a rename can be brought back here as soon as that consensus appears | June 30 |
| Popes by nationality categories | Keep | June 6 |
| Category:Priddy family (Sierra Leone) | Delete | June 6 |
| Category:Prime Ministers of Russian Federation | Rename | June 12 |
| Category:Prominent JD/MBAs | delete. – | June 23 |
| Category:Puerto Rican sex workers | Merge and Delete per nom | June 24 |
| Category:Punk film | Rename | June 29 |
| Category:Quakers and Russia | delete | June 3 |
| Category:Quebec cinema | rename | June 1 |
| Category:Quebecois cuisine | Rename per revised nomination | June 10 |
| Category:Queen (band) | Do not rename. | June 28 |
| Category:Railway engineers | Administrative close: category deleted as empty. However, I think there is consensus to implement | June 7 |
| Category:Rationality theorists | no consensus | June 3 |
| Category:Rear projection television | merge/delete | June 18 |
| Category:Recipients of the Conrad Schlumberger Award of the European Association of Geoscientists and Engineers | delete | June 7 |
| Category:Relational Psychoanalysts | Rename | June 20 |
| Category:Relations | Merge/revert. I wouldn't say that there is necessarily consensus for the name Category:Mathematical relations, but even if this discussion were to be closed as "no consensus", the just result would be to revert things to how they were before. That is what I will do in this situation. This close is without prejudice to a future proposal to rename Category:Mathematical relations. | June 27 |
| Category:Religious Zionism movements | Rename per nom | June 18 |
| Remaining Space exploration WikiProject categories | rename all per nom. Note that since many of these categories are populated by Template:WikiProject Space, the servers may take a significant period of time to rename the categories after the template is edited, depending upon the current job queue length | June 14 |
| Category:Renault Theault | Administrative close: category never existed as far as I can tell. | June 21 |
| Category:Repurposed shopping malls in the United States | Merge | June 10 |
| Category:Resigned Communist Party of the Soviet Union members | Keep | June 11 |
| Revolutionary Socialist Party (India) | rename | June 8 |
| Category:Road accident deaths in Mississippi | Withdrawn NAC. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • | June 19 |
| Category:Roller coaster images | rename | June 3 |
| Category:Royal Navy cargo ships | rename | June 2 |
| Category:Runestones in North America | Delete. If someone wants to try out a new name, feel free to create the category. The outcome here is without prejudice to a future discussion on the new name. | June 6 |
| Category:SAFRAN mobile phones | Rename | June 5 |
| Category:Sandstone buildings | Keep | June 29 |
| Category:Sang-il Lee films | Rename | June 6 |
| Category:Savoyard footballers | upmerge and delete | June 19 |
| Category:Schools of thought | keep | June 8 |
| Category:Scottish rugby union players | Merge as nominated. Only one of these needs to exist, and since there is no consensus here on which is correct, we'll default to keep the older one. Anyone should feel free to nominate for a rename to "players" | June 24 |
| Category:Security Guards murdered in terrorist incidents | Delete | June 20 |
| Category:Select Group Referees 2007/08 | delete | June 2 |
| Category:Serbs | Withdrawn, following emerging standard. Category descriptions and parents must carefully document the proper use of these categories. |
June 3 |
| Sexual conflict | delete | June 3 |
| Category:Shipping containers | Keep, category contents appear to have been divided between the two related categories during the course of discussion following Good Ol'factory's suggestion | June 4 |
| Category:Shock jocks | Delete | June 2 |
| Category:Sholay | delete | June 2 |
| Category:Shuttlecock | Delete. | June 28 |
| Category:Singles certified Gold by the RIAA | Rename per revised nomination. (Perhaps | June 15 |
| Category:Slavic countries | keep | June 30 |
| Category:Slavic nations | Keep | June 30 |
| Category:Slavic-language surnames | Keep. I closed the other apparently infamous discussion. (Before anyone gets their knickers in a knot and suggests that I shouldn't be closing this discussion because I closed the other one, allow me to acknowledge that I am closing this discussion mainly because of my past close: as a result of it and the ensuing s-storm I am somewhat familiar with the background debates that lie behind this particular nomination. See also my concluding parenthetical.) Anyway, knowing what I know about the background, I would basically agree with what Occuli and DGG have said below about the previous discussion. It seems to me this was part of the attempt to implement the new scheme, so this discussion should really be considered afresh on its independent merits, without worrying about the deletion of Category:Slavic surnames. And I think the discussion here did (for the most part) properly focus on whether you want a mid-level category within the new "by-language" scheme, and it seems to me that there is a consensus that this mid-level one is wanted. Certainly, I have read here and elsewhere that there are still problems with individual articles being added to particular by-language categories when the article is unreferenced as to the name's "language of origin", so I again encourage users to ensure that all articles about surnames that are included in a by-language subcategory of Category:Surnames have sourcing that would support the article's inclusion in that category. This is just a repetition of basic WP:RS and WP:OR stuff, and shouldn't be controversial. (I know some of you imagine that I'm biased on these matters, so I'm looking forward to the same people who have complained about my bias in the past doing so again with respect to this closing. If no such complaining materializes from the same parties (or if complaining materializes from new parties), I guess I'll chalk up the difference in the "complaint experience" experienced after the previous close and the "complaint experience" that I will encounter now to simply this: whether the complainers liked or didn't like the actual outcome of the separate discussions.) | June 29 |
| Category:Songs about goats | Delete | June 20 |
| Category:Songs written by Don Robey | No consensus here, but a rename to Category:Songs credited to Don Robey or something similar could be proposed in a later CfD. | June 16 |
| Category:Songs written by Mark Markwell | Merge and leave redirect. | June 28 |
| Category:Sony Records albums | rename, recategorization into the label subcats still needs to occur | June 2 |
| Category:Soviet Union canoeist stubs | moved to WP:SFD | June 10 |
| Soviet war in Afghanistan veterans | keep. Incidentally, the main article is not Civil War in Afghanistan, it is Soviet war in Afghanistan | June 9 |
| Category:Speaker of National Assembly, Pakistan | rename | June 8 |
| Category:Sporting Braga players | rename | June 9 |
| Category:Sporting Lisbon managers | rename | June 9 |
| Category:Sportspeople by city | Upmerge and delete as nominated, except for Category:Sportspeople in Columbus, Ohio, which was clearly not intended to be of the same type and for which there was no consensus. Multiple target merge categories will be listed at WP:CFDWM. | June 16 |
| Category:Spouses of U.S. Cabinet Members | Rename; qualifies for speedy. (While remaining surprised that anyone with a WP article is defined by being a spouse of a cabinet member. The U.S. is one wacky place.) | June 12 |
| Category:Sri Lankan Diaspora | Speedy merge/delete (empty at close); qualifies under speedy criterion #2 | June 21 |
| Category:Stadiums in Hull | Rename to Category:Sports venues in Kingston upon Hull, noting that the follow up nomination is currently trending to adopting this name in the other categories | June 25 |
| Category:Stadiums in Singapore | Withdrawn. Based on other discussions, Category:Sports venues in Singapore should be the by settlement grouping for these. Can another administrator delete Category:Stadiums in Singapore? | June 25 |
| Subclasses of Flower class corvettes | rename all | June 5 |
| Category:Subdsitricts of Kepahiang Regency | speedy delete as housekeeping (G6) | June 4 |
| Category:Sugar Hill Records (folk) albums to Category:Sugar Hill Records (bluegrass) albums | Rename | June 9 |
| Category:Superguns | No consensus | June 11 |
| Category:Surnames by country | Discussion closed on previous day | June 7 |
| Category:Surnames by country | Upmerge to Category:Surnames/Category:Names, as appropriate. After reading this entire discussion numerous times, a few points are evident. (1) A fair number of users like these categories and find them useful; (2) there are some major problems with these by-country categories as they have been implemented (there is no need for me to go through all of the problems here again, but suffice it to say I find the problems far more persuasive in this case than any reasons that were given for keeping the by-country structure); (3) there is probably a better system we can develop for sub-categorizing surnames. The proposal floated by | June 6 |
| Surnames by language | Rename immediately. Highly unorthodox for me to do this right away, but there are a number of editors who appear to be quite impatient and upset with me that I didn't just rename the categories to "Fooian-language" in the first discussion. (Well, I felt that discussion on the issue would be good, and I wasn't aware that a consensus on what scheme to use would develop so quickly.) So I'm willing to ignore some rules and rename these immediately so that people can calm down and realise that we're working on things and it won't be long until we're up and running with the new scheme. I also endorse what | June 25 |
| Category:Tamil film Heroines | merge. – | June 22 |
| Tamil Sri Lankan topics | Administrative close/no consensus/withdrawn/dog's mess. This is the second of three nominations for the same categories that took place on listings for 3 consecutive days. As I mentioned in the close for these same categories on 2009 June 12, the nominator's practice here was highly unusual and difficult for editors to follow. I see two different suggestions made below: the one approach suggested by Johnbod, and then a subsequent suggestion by Peterkingiron, which the nominator endorsed and based the 3rd nomination on. The only way out of this mess that I can see is to have a (sigh) fourth nomination begun with a clear proposal that will remain open for the standard 7 days without being adjusted. If no consensus develops for the proposed suggestion or an alternative, then something else could be suggested in a subsequent nomination. As Occuli said on 2009 June 12, "there is no particular hurry" and we can take our time on discussing these in an organized fashion that is easily understandable by all. | June 11 |
| Tamil topic of country | No consensus because of lack of discussion of merits. This is indeed a confusing situation, and the nominator's actions w.r.t. these categories in the past 3 days of CfD listings is highly unusual. I would advise against such practices, not because it's necessarily inherently wrong, but because it is confusing for those participating and (as demonstrated here) a controversial practice. Please read this close in conjunction with the close of the 2009 June 11 nomination of the same categories. | June 12 |
| Category:Tamils of Sri Lanka | No consensus (first two categories); do not rename (last three categories). | June 22 |
| Category:Tamils of Sri Lanka | Withdrawn by nominator. | June 10 |
| Category:Technical terminology | Keep (but feel free to purge away) | June 17 |
| Category:Telecommunication companies of Arab World | delete and split into sub-categories | June 14 |
| Category:Telecommunications companies of Africa | Keep | June 21 |
| Category:Thai war heroes | Delete | June 24 |
| Category:The Elder Scrolls templates | Delete | June 19 |
| Category:The Knife singles | Delete (move ratified). | June 27 |
| Category:Title cards | delete as empty | June 8 |
| Category:Tiwana clans | delete | June 7 |
| Category:TMN network shows | rename | June 9 |
| Category:Toronto musicians | rename along with ottawa and niagra per bearcat and precedent | June 2 |
| Category:Traditional fishing villages | Delete (ratify merge). | June 29 |
| Category:Tritium contamination in the US | delete | June 7 |
| Category:TV Tic-tac-toe | Delete, after upmerging contents to Category:Tic-tac-toe. All are already in appropriate subcategories of Category:Game shows. | June 28 |
| Category:UK Provincial Gentlemen's Clubs | Rename to Category:Traditional gentlemen's clubs in England | June 20 |
| United Nations specialized agency abbreviation expansions | Rename | June 25 |
| Category:United States Army civilian victims | Delete. Under populated, and for now clearly has POV concerns | June 17 |
| Category:United States Republicans who were raised as Democrats | delete | June 3 |
| Category:University of Missouri–Kansas City | no consensus | June 7 |
| Category:Unmarried people | Delete | June 13 |
| Category:Unpleasant Wikipedians | SPEEDY DELETED | June 29 |
| Category:US towns named after planets | delete | June 8 |
| Category:User ain't | Delete | June 29 |
| Category:Users with no Barnstars | Delete | June 29 |
| Category:Victims of psychiatric repression | No consensus. I think there is consensus here to fix identified problems but how to do so remains unclear. This close allows cleanup and reorganization to address the identified issues. If as a result of that cleanup this category needs to be brought back, that is acceptable at any time | June 22 |
| Category:Views | Delete | June 11 |
| Category:Waste management concepts | no consensus | June 18 |
| Category:Wikify from June 2009 | no consensus | June 8 |
| Category:Wikipedia deletion | no consensus | June 3 |
| Category:Wikipedia files needing editor assistance at upload as of 4 June 2009 | speedy delete, G6 (housekeeping) | June 12 |
| Wikipedia license migration subcategories | Rename. | June 23 |
| Category:Wikipedians who like Shiny | delete | June 7 |
| Category:Wikipedians who own a geodesic dome | Delete | June 29 |
| Category:Wikipedians with a shoutbox tool | Delete | June 29 |
| Category:Wikipedians with access to Who's Who in the Theatre (17th ed) | delete | June 7 |
| Category:William Jefferson | delete for now. Renaming to "scandals" would remove most of the article, as is noted, these are people, not scandals. For the remainder of the articles that actually may belong, this is all alleged. Once the trial is over, there may be a salvageable category (with a different name), but right now, no | June 3 |
| Category:Women comedians | Keep. I did add a comment about starting a discussion on female vs. woman. However I did not express an opinion on keeping or deleting. I don't believe that comment excludes me from closing this discussion | June 22 |
| Category:World Federation of Great Towers | Delete | June 29 |
| Category:Writers by award | keep | June 30 |
| Category:X-COM games | Upmerge to Category:X-COM per nom. | June 29 |
| Category:X-COM races | Delete (ratify emptying). | June 25 |
| Category:X-Men characters | Rename | June 13 |
| Category:Zimbabwean billionaires | Delete | June 6 |