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Category:Nuclear power stations that had a significant accident

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The result of the debate was merge. Kbdank71 16:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nuclear power stations that had a significant accident (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Nuclear compensations

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The result of the debate was relisted on dec 31. Kbdank71 16:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nuclear compensations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Nuclear weapon organizations

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nuclear weapon organizations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:GPB TV stations

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:10, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:GPB TV stations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: All of the articles contained here are already listed in both category parents. Neither parent is so large that this direct listing presents a problem. This is also the only subcategory like this and does not really serve a useful purpose. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People namechecked in Ramones songs

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People namechecked in Ramones songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: This category does not serve any purpose. We could have people namechecked in the songs of many, many different artists, but it would be extreme cruft and overcategorisation. h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 22:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Prelates by type

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The result of the debate was rename to Category:Roman Catholic titular prelates by type. Kbdank71 16:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merging Category:Prelates by type to Category:Prelates
Nominator's rationale: Merge, Category has only a single, under-populated parent and itself contains no articles, only subcategories. Upmerge to parent would eliminate an unnecessary intermediate cat. Quale (talk) 06:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've been expanding the category, and see a lot of more articles and subcategories, that would not be rightly cataloged under the category:prelates and would be too extensive (in the long run)Stijn Calle (talk) 10:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What are the "types" by which you're planning to categorize? --Lquilter (talk) 14:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What could possibly be correct categorized under "Prelates by type" that wouldn't be rightly cataloged under "Prelates" ???? "Prelates by type" is a subcat of "Prelates" so this makes no sense. The category has existed since May... Quale (talk) 03:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:FSF/UNESCO

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:FSF/UNESCO to Category:Free Software Foundation and UNESCO
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand abbreviation for "FSF" per parent category Category:Free Software Foundation and main article Free Software Foundation. Don't expand UNESCO as parent category is Category:UNESCO and main article is UNESCO. Snocrates 08:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom Johnbod (talk) 10:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete; if not deleted, rename per nom - The category is an intersection that is apparently intended to capture free software (such as GIMP and Mozilla Firefox) that are or have been supported or recognized by UNESCO (the so-called "Free Software Directory, formerly named "FSF/UNESCO Directory"). As such, it is overcategorization by membership in a published list, basically -- UNESCO sponsorship or recognition is certainly not a defining element of the nine pieces of software included in the category. (Eclipse, GIMP, Gnuzilla, K3b, K9copy, Firefox, MySQL, OpenOffice, and OpenSSL are the 9 pieces of software categorized here. The tenth article in the category is the Free Software Directory which is sort of the head article, but it's lame.) Their position as part of the debate about various governmental/international entities sponsorship or promotion of free software is not a useful categorizing scheme. An article should be written that discusses this issue and links to relevant software -- there isn't such an article now. People who visit the category will note that it lists as main articles "FSF/UNESCO Directory", FSF and UNESCO. FSF/UNESCO Directory is a redirect to Free Software Directory, but that article is minimal and doesn't really address the significant aspects of this issue. (All that said, if somehow this category is kept, it should at least be spelled out.) --Lquilter (talk) 22:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Lquilter. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Strong Delete and close. I started looking at the included articles. For the ones I looked at UNESCO is not mentioned and where FSE is, it is either a reference or a passing comment so the category should not apply to those articles. I could have continued to update manually, but simply delete and let the bot do the work. As used, from what I saw this category, this category is ambiguous not completely not defining. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Doczilla (talk) 07:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lake Worth, Florida

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The result of the debate was keep. Kbdank71 16:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lake Worth, Florida (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category has two mainspace members, Lake Worth, Florida and Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church (Lake Worth). The latter is currently nominated for AfD as a WP:COATRACK. (See below) -- Donald Albury 03:52, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Brand new category. Large city in Palm Beach county. See the big picture here. This is a no-brainer despite the possibility of a disappearing church. No city in Palm Beach county has it's own category for reasons that are not known. As a result, all article defined have categories that are too far-reaching, such as "schools in Florida" or "Baptist churches in the south." Need local collectors to narrow these selections down early so they won't have to be changed later. Having said that, it's defining category may need to be changed to "Cities in Palm Beach County." Student7 (talk) 17:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to Category:Buildings and structures in Lake Worth, Florida. Being brand new is not in and of itself a reason to delete. However, a near empty category that does not have obvious articles that can be added is. I did some digging and found additional articles that could be included. Based on that I think a rename is the better choice. The radio station can be upmerged to the county cat and everything else should be OK. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:45, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not enough there to support a cat. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tata

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Kbdank71 16:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merging Category:Tata to Category:Tata Group
Nominator's rationale: Merge. To match the main article name. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is needed, though new categories should be found. I'll see what I can add —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbod (talkcontribs) 10:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. After moving the people who work for the group into that category, Category:Tata now has three subcats that have the name in common. Is this sufficient reason to keep the category? While a merge may still be OK, maybe a delete is now the better choice? Vegaswikian (talk) 21:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This category has developed since originally nominated. The members of the Tata family own the group (of companies). They are not part of it. Similarly institutions, presumably endowed by the family, are not part of the group. This category should remain as a category of categories, probably without articels of its own. Peterkingiron (talk) 00:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:WelcomeBotResearch

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 16:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:WelcomeBotResearch to Category:WelcomeResearch
Nominator's rationale: Rename. As discussed here this category name gives the false impression to users (me included)that welcome messages are being left by bots. In fact, the category is only being "used" (is it being used??) for research about welcoming, some of which could conceivably be bot-operated in the future. A consensus was evolving at the category talk page as I've just linked to rename, but no further action was taken hence my bringing it here. kingboyk (talk) 15:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I see your reasoning, but I don't like the proposed name either, because I don't think it is accurate either. I cannot think of any better ones right now though. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:25, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as user talk pages shouldn't be polluted with this; any name is bound to be confusing. Unclear that this is being used or is useful at all, considering the need to taken into account users who aren't welcomed. –Pomte 06:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Space Prophets albums

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Space Prophets albums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Album category for a non-notable band. Only one entry in category, and unlikely to be expanded. Lankiveil (talk) 13:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Album Oriented Rock radio stations

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Album Oriented Rock radio stations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete This sub-cat of Category:Rock radio stations was, after much work, up to four whole articles. As below, per some discussion at WT:WPRS, those articles have been relocated to the more useful Category:Rock radio stations in the United States (since all four were about US stations). 08:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Alternative radio stations

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Alternative radio stations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete This sub-cat of Category:Rock radio stations was, after much work, up to three whole articles. Per some discussion at WT:WPRS, those articles have been relocated to the more useful Category:Rock radio stations in the United States (since all three were about US stations). 08:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Bisexual American actors

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The result of the debate was rename. the wub "?!" 19:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bisexual American actors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: I'd like to rename this to Category:Bisexual actors from the United States. Currently almost all the occupation categories under the Category:LGBT people by occupation hierarchy are "LGBT widget makers from the United States", so this one stands out :) SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 04:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bands with gay/bisexual members

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bands with gay/bisexual members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Arbitrary intersection, likely WP:BLP nightmare. Existence of such categories is precluded by Wikipedia:Categorization/Gender, race and sexuality#Sexuality. MER-C 04:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:North Dakota State Treasurers

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The result of the debate was rename. the wub "?!" 19:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:North Dakota State Treasurers should be renamed Category:State treasurers of North Dakota to conform with the standard used in all other similarily-named categories. See Category:State treasurers of the United States for examples of what I am talking about. --TommyBoy (talk) 02:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:WikiProject Mathematical and Computational Biology articles

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 16:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiProject Mathematical and Computational Biology articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete apparently not an official WikiProject, until it is, if ever, categorization shouldn't occur. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:West German sopranos

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:West German sopranos (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete not needed for the one article so categorized, it's also in the Category:German sopranos. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Web 3.0

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Web 3.0 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete not needed for the one article so categorized, and a bit subjective at this juncture. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Vice Presidents of the Russian Federation

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 16:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Vice Presidents of the Russian Federation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete The Russian federation only had one veep, there is currently no such office so this is a classic small category with limited potential for growth. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Unsraw video releases

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 19:22, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Unsraw video releases (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete not needed for one video. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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