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August 11

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Category:Arabic poets

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television programs by medium

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The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Television programs by medium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: After looking through the subcats of User:Stefanomione's Category:Media by medium grouping, I think this one is problematic, too. Television is the medium. Different TV genres or formats do not make for a different "medium." A blooper show or a mini-series is not a medium, in our sense of the term. I say just delete it. The contents are adequately categorized. Actually, they weren't, but I have now added the parent category for the pre-established Category:Television programs by type, using per pre-established Category:Films by type, as a model. Again, I believe the use of "medium" to describe TV formats is misleading. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Internet by medium

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The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Internet by medium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: I propose we delete this User:Stefanomione category and simply group its sole content Category:Internet broadcasting under the sort key [[Category:Internet|Broadcasting]], as I've done. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Audio by medium

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The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Audio by medium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Part of User:Stefanomione's fondness for "Foo by medium" groupings, this category has as its sole content Category:Digital audio, which is itself already adequately categorized. (I'm not sure yet about what if anything to do with his parent Category:Media by medium). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American people of Pakistani-Jewish descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Category:American people of Pakistani-Jewish descent
  • Nominators rationale This category has been empty about a week. Before that it contained 1 person who was A-not Jewish which conflicts with the parent cats that are only for Jews B-her last Jewish ancestor lived in India, that is the current boundaries of India, and converted to Islam before the creation of Pakistan. The fact of the matter is that Pakistani-descent is a modern phenomenon and should not be retroactively applied to a time when Pakistan was integrally part of India. Unless we actually find American Jews who really had Jewish ancestors living within Pakistan at a time that Pakistan actually existed, we should not have this category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:16, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Oppose deletion by Cfd. If this category is empty it should be deleted under the speedy process for empty categories - to delete the category here will materially complicate the reactivating of the category in the unlikely event that a suitable article is subsequently found or created. If the category is not empty, it should not be deleted and any discussion as to the suitability of specific articles for listing in the category should be discussed in the Discussion page of the article in question. Davshul (talk) 10:56, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Pakistan is such a new country that I do not think we are likely to find Jews with ancestors who actually lived in it. This is a structural problem with the category. Anyway, I did not know you could oppose Cfd deleting things. I always figured you could oppose speedying, but CfD was a more deliberative process and so the default lesser one. I guess Davshul could say "delete without prejudice". However I think we should have prejudice against this category because the very notion of Pakistani-Jewish ancestry is ahoistorical.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:19, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Category discussion pages have a notice recomending against discussions there because almost no one ever looks at them. The premise of these Jews by national origin cats is that there is specific ethnic differences based on the various nations. I do not think this applies to Pakistan. There is no reason why we need these subcats for every country a Jew may have had ancestors from.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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National science fiction awards

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:National science fiction awards to Category:Science fiction awards by country
Nominator's rationale: Rename. There is no such thing as a "national sci-fi award" that I know of. Inclusion of subcategories Australian science fiction awards and Canadian science fiction awards suggests that it was meant to be "by country" type of the category. Thus, I suggest it is renamed, added to the "by country" category tree, and all entries other than those already in the subcategories are depopulated back to Science fiction awards. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Prog rock record labels

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:17, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Prog rock record labels to Category:Progressive rock record labels
Nominator's rationale: Per main article/cat. —Justin (koavf)TCM08:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rename, per nom. Lugnuts (talk) 08:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy? As creator and naming conventions. No need to drag this out to a 40 minute keyboard solo... Lugnuts (talk) 18:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Templates Database

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:37, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Templates Database (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
And subcategories
Category:Templates Database by country
Category:Templates Database for the France
Category:Templates Database Population Commune of France
Nominator's rationale: Poorly-made category structure by one user. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dominion companies

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D; revisit deletion in a separate nomination if necessary. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:18, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Dominion companies to Category:Dominion Resources
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to match the name of the company. Since there are only 2 articles in the category, Delete could also be an option. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Joint Commission International accredited hospitals in South East Asia

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The result of the discussion was: Delete . Timrollpickering (talk) 15:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Joint Commission International accredited hospitals in South East Asia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Not sure of the focus here but it appears to be hospitals accredited by one association in one part of the world, a triple intersection. If these are really accredited by the Joint Commission, then they are a few of the 19,000 granted so this is not likely to be defining. I looked but could not find any other categories for hospitals by accreditation, so do we want to start that? Vegaswikian (talk) 05:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Famous street furniture

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The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Famous street furniture to Category:Street furniture
Nominator's rationale: Per other such suggestions below--if it's not famous (that is, not notable), it wouldn't have an article. "Fame" is assumed. —Justin (koavf)TCM04:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Redirects from Portuguese-language terms

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Redirects from Portuguese-language terms (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Other such categories (e.g. Category:Redirects from Spanish-language terms) have been emptied and deleted. I'm not sure why, but I can say that it's pretty silly to have just one category like this with just one entry... —Justin (koavf)TCM04:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Famous wagers

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The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Famous wagers to Category:Wagers
Nominator's rationale: "Famous" is unnecessary. McLerristarr | Mclay1 04:12, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, and agree that it’s clearer without “Famous”. Thanks the improvement!
—Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 05:22, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Famous model railroads

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Model railroads. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Famous model railroads to Category:Rail transport models
Nominator's rationale: "Famous" is unnecessary. "Rail transport" is used in the parent category and avoids the railway vs railroad debate. McLerristarr | Mclay1 04:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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