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Category:Something

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Something (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: I didn't realize this category existed until Occuli lightheartedly linked to it from a CfD where I'd entered "something," because I didn't know what my rename should be. It has been linked to from a number of other CfDs because someone else entered "something" in place of foo, and it got blue linked. It has only been created recently, so this is its 1st Cfd. Anyway, it took a while to figure out what this category is about. It's terribly nebulous. Anything that isn't nothing is something, so the nominated category can pretty much encompass the whole encyclopedia. The creator's Category:Everything was already deleted. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic Church novels

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The result of the discussion was: No rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church novels to Category:Catholic novels
Nominator's rationale: The existing title is grammatically clunky and unnecessarily specific. Non-Roman Catholic (e.g., Eastern-Rite Catholic) novels should probably be on the same page. Stgimp (talk) 16:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's parent is Category:Christian novels which is wide enough to potentially include as many denominations as you would want. It makes sense that each denomination should have its own category. To force this cat to absorb Eastern-Rite Catholic would render it so amorphous as to make it untenable as a cat. Laurel Lodged (talk) 23:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not any more, it isn't. Like most "art" categories, that is only supposed to contain stuff from the visual arts. Strangely enough we don't seem to have an RC "books" or "literature" category, which probably should be set up. I don't much like either the current or proposed names, both of which suggest the authors must be Catholic. Category:Novels with a Roman Catholic Church setting would be more accurate, if we can do that. Johnbod (talk) 02:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – per the usual phraseology in the kindred Category:Roman Catholic Church art, then. (Although to me there is a suggestion that these occur in a church, whereas it is the theme that is RC (eg in Sword of Honour).) Occuli (talk) 08:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's 2 keeps. Johnbod (talk) 09:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's the same keep, modified rationale due to feckless parents. Occuli (talk) 09:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Santa Clara University Schools and Colleges

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The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. — ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Santa Clara University Schools and Colleges to Category:Santa Clara University academics subdivisions
Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Santa Clara University Centers

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The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. — ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Santa Clara University Centers to Category:Santa Clara University academics subdivisions
Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:University of California, Santa Cruz colleges

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The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. — ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:University of California, Santa Cruz colleges to Category:University of California, Santa Cruz residential colleges
Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Stanford University schools

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The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. — ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Stanford University schools to Category:Stanford University academics subdivisions
Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cal Poly Pomona College

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The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. — ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Cal Poly Pomona College to Category:California Polytechnic University, Pomona academics subdivisions
Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but never listed here. No reason given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:21, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Places in Kitakyūshū

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Places in Kitakyūshū to Category:Buildings and structures in Kitakyūshū
Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 4 but never listed here. Reason not given in edit summary. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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People by school in Singapore

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to (Schoolname) alumni. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:59, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Rename Category:Former pupils by school in Singapore and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:

(I've deliberately left the "Old Fooians" category out of this nomination as there are additional issues with that form that are best handled separately)

Nominator's rationale: The Singapore schools categories use one formats for the individual schools (an Old Fooians aside) and another for the parent. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Disney's Fantasia

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Fantasia (franchise). Timrollpickering (talk) 22:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Disney's Fantasia to Category:Fantasia
Nominator's rationale: Alternately: Category:Fantasia (franchise) Per precedent of other such media franchises. —Justin (koavf)TCM09:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nails

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Nails to Category:Nails (anatomy)
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Nails is ambiguous. I suggest renaming to match Nail (anatomy). Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename as ambiguous06:07, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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Category:People from Mullewa, Western Australia

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn by nominator. Timrollpickering (talk) 07:37, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People from Mullewa, Western Australia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. has only one entry, it is hardly worth creating a category for a town of 450 people. LibStar (talk) 07:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It's the centre of an agricultural/pastoral district (like many remote Australian towns) and has a district high school, a team in the local football league (which doesn't sound major until one accounts for how many country footballers end up in first division teams), and its own shire council; each of which could theoretically account for any number of people. The Opposition Leader of the Northern Territory farmed there for several years and still has family there, and one of the Wittenoom brothers was chairman of the road board (predecessor to the Shire Council) and has a nearby mountain named after him. Orderinchaos 15:39, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose WP:IDONTLIKEIT (because the town is too small) is not a reason to delete. Come up with a reason based in deletion or category policy or guidelines and then it can be considered. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 22:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
because it has very little potential to produce notable people. given that only two people is in the cat. if it had 5 yes. LibStar (talk) 04:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Qur'an

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Qur'an to Category:Quran
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. If this passes, the subcategories can be speedily renamed. —Justin (koavf)TCM07:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Welsh Assembly Government

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Welsh Assembly Government to Category:Welsh Government
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Following 2011 re-naming by the government itself, and per our convention of naming categories after their parent articles. Mais oui! (talk) 06:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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People by school in Ghana

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Alumni of (Schoolname). Vegaswikian (talk) 18:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Rename Category:Alumni by secondary school in Ghana and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:

Nominator's rationale: The Ghana schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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People by school in Fiji

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The result of the discussion was: Reanme to (Schoolname) alumni. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Rename Category:Alumni by secondary school in Fiji and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:

Nominator's rationale: The Fiji schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. (Note: There was a previous proposal in February which found consensus to use a consistent format but deadlocked on which one. The closing admin recommended a follow-up nomination if consensus formed on other countries under discussion.) Timrollpickering (talk) 01:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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People by school in Hong Kong

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The result of the discussion was: Option 1. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Rename Category:Alumni by secondary school in Hong Kong and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:

Nominator's rationale: The Hong Kong schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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People by school in India

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to (Schoolname) alumni. Consensus was for some form of alumni and this one seemed to have the most support. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Rename Category:Former pupils by secondary school in India and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:

(Note Since the CFD was initiated, a new category has been created: Category:Alumni by secondary school in India at 15:47, 9 September 2011 by User:Ekabhishek. I've added it to the nomination - either it or the "Former pupils" category will need to be merged into the other or else both will need to merge together under a third name. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC) )[reply]

(I've deliberately left the "Fooians" and "Old Fooians" categories out of this nomination as there are additional issues with them that are best handled separately)

Nominator's rationale: The Indian (non-Fooians) schools categories use one format but their parent use another. It's best to standardise the two before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Use 1st option - Alumni of (schoolname). Alumni is a compact word for Former students/ People educated, etc. Also, it would be easy to search / locate too, if one were to just type 'Alumni of XXX' in the search box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VasuVR (talk) 04:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to something consistent. I can't see any logic in keeping them all a hodge-podge: let's choose one and use it. "Schoolname alumni" is fine with me, but I'd be equally fine with any other format (except the "former pupils" or "former students" ones), as long as it's used consistently. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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NBA postseasons by team

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:27, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Greater Western Sydney

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The result of the discussion was: merge. This seems quite a spongy definition, too unclear for categorization. The other three categories listed below should be nominated for merging as well.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:15, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:People from Greater Western Sydney to Category:People from Sydney
Nominator's rationale: Merge. No reason to have essentially a subregion of Sydney represented with only one entry. LibStar (talk) 00:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There is nothing here which is not a property of People from Sydney (I suspect plenty of entries could be found within the parent cat that apply to the sub-cat, but then the question of "what is Greater Western Sydney?" which has never been completely determined comes up.) Orderinchaos 15:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There is nothing wrong with sub-cats by region for large cities such as Sydney. If the definition needs to be tightened, then lets tighten it, if the category needs to be populated from the parent category, then populate it - but there is no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 22:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd normally agree, but when I came to do my schools lists, I found there was as many definitions of GWS as there were people defining them. The area around Carlingford, and whether Lakemba and surrounds were part of GWS seemed to be two of the issues to resolve. There's a definition used by the councils which includes Carlingford and excludes Lakemba, at least one state government body does the reverse. It's not like the rural regions where statutory definitions exist. Orderinchaos 03:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
what is the definition of Greater Western Sydney? there is actually no accepted definition. LibStar (talk) 23:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tim, good pick up. With the exception of Sutherland Shire, the other areas are not defined objectively, bios would say suburb born which would indicate Local government area LGA. But doesn't mean they actually grew up there. LGA are too cumbersome, there are at least 40 in Sydney and some are only a few square km in size. LibStar (talk) 13:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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