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Category:Organizations in Yishuv

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Organizations in Yishuv to Category:Organisations in the Yishuv
Nominator's rationale: Two changes - firstly the definite article is missing for the Yishuv, and secondly, whilst we're renaming, I thought it would be more appropriate to use the British English spelling of "organisation", as this operated in British controlled territory (MOS:TIES). Number 57 00:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Reality TV contestants

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The result of the discussion was: Rename, using Category:Super Girl (contest) contestants. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Singers from Super Girl to Category:Super Girl contestants
Propose renaming Category:Members of Running Man (TV series) to Category:Running Man (TV series) contestants
Propose renaming Category:Members of Infinite Challenge to Category:Infinite Challenge contestants
Nominator's rationale: Per some other categories of Category:Reality television participants, those who take part in the games are usually called "contestants."-- Mike Selinker (talk) 20:34, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:User knows the side effects dihydrogen monoxide

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:42, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:User knows the side effects dihydrogen monoxide (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Does not support collaboration; improper naming convention & grammar. VegaDark (talk) 20:29, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Subcategories of Category:Wikipedian underwater divers

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:User QQ

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:User QQ (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. "QQ, is the most popular free instant messaging computer program in mainland China." Does not support collaboration; improper naming convention. All "Wikipedians by instant messenger" categories have been previously deleted and subsequently endorsed at deletion review. VegaDark (talk) 20:29, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedian logicians

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The result of the discussion was: keep.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Wikipedian logicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Logician redirects to Logic. The dictionary definition of a logician is "a person who is skilled in logic." Logic would dictate that this category should be deleted as not supporting collaboration. There is no encyclopedia benefiting reason to group users via a user category who proclaim to be skilled in logic. VegaDark (talk) 20:29, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - An alternative definition is "a student or scholar of logic", and I think that the category is being used not by editors who think that they are logical or skilled in logic (which I agree would be useless) but rather by those who have a degree of expert knowledge of logic as a field of study. All but one of the users in this category also identify as mathematicians or informaticians (informaticists?).
    I think it might even be useful to separate mathematical logicians (currently identified by Template:User mathlogician) from philosophical logicians – e.g., by creating Category:Wikipedian mathematical logicians as a subcategory of this category and Category:Wikipedian mathematicians. -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    My search didn't come up with that definition. If this category is indeed intended for people who have expert knowledge in the field of logic, perhaps a better name is in order for the category, particularly since that definition doesn't appear to be universal. Additionally, I don't think it would be helpful to classify "students" of logic or any other particular field, it could only be useful for "scholars" of logic, further making "Wikipedian logicians" not as helpful as another name - perhaps something akin to Category:Wikipedian scholars of logic. VegaDark (talk) 02:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You're right, I suspect, about categorizing 'students' of any subject – the label 'student of logic' can apply to almost anyone, from an amateur self-styled 'philosopher' to a professional researcher or theorist, and is simply too vague to be useful. Perhaps a name change is in order, but "scholars of logic" strikes me as unintuitive or unnatural... I've not been able to think of a good alternative, though, so for now I've just added a category description to try to limit and clarify the category's scope. -- Black Falcon (talk) 07:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Pro/Anti-SOPA user categories

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:27, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete - 'Advocacy' user categories, which are discouraged. Extensive precedent to delete advocacy categories. These do not support collaboration. There is no legitimate reason to be going through these categories to seek out users for purposes of collaboration. Additionally, these are categories of a temporary nature if SOPA is not passed, which is likely to be the case, and user categories for temporary issues are also discouraged. I think SOPA sucks too, but user categories for these are inappropriate. These also use an improper naming convention so at very minimum need to be renamed. VegaDark (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Women in jazz

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The result of the discussion was: Rename then diffuse appropriately. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:45, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Women in jazz to Category:Female jazz musicians
Nominator's rationale: And then diffuse by instrument/vocals. Note that Category:Female jazz guitarists already exists. —Justin (koavf)TCM16:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ROSAT

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The result of the discussion was: Keep and rename to Category:ROSAT objects. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:ROSAT (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only one article, which is also in the parent categories W. D. Graham (previously GW) 10:46, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Battle of Gettysburg hospitals

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:51, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Battle of Gettysburg hospitals (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I started removing articles and then I realized that if I continued this category would be empty or very close, so bringing it here. Most of these entries were temporary usage as a hospital including fields as well as buildings. For most of these buildings it is not defining. If this information is needed, then a list or article on the topic should be created. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:30, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cyclorama buildings

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Cycloramas. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:46, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cyclorama buildings (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Guess who? Do we really need to split out the ones that are named for the building they are in rather then for the painting itself? Given the small number, I don't think we need two categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:22, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Folk songs adapted by The Animals

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Folk songs adapted by The Animals (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization. —Justin (koavf)TCM06:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Members of the OAS

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:01, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Members of the OAS to Category:Members of the Organisation de l'armée secrète
Nominator's rationale: per main —Justin (koavf)TCM04:59, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mithraic Mysteries

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The result of the discussion was: Rename per main article. Adjust if that is moved. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:30, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Mithraic Mysteries to Category:Mithraic mysteries
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. Alternately, close this and rename the article. —Justin (koavf)TCM03:25, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternate Rename I think "Mithraism" is a more accepted description snd should be used for both the article and the cat. If "Mythraic Mysteries" is kept I would go with capital M's because "Mysteries" is being used as part of a formal noun. RevelationDirect (talk) 05:49, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    With regard to the capitalization of 'Mysteries', the article seems to alternate between upper and lower case and the latter is present in quotations from at least two sources: e.g., see citations 107 and 114 here. I think "Mithraism" would be, as you suggest, the better choice for the category and the article. -- Black Falcon (talk) 07:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Coastal defense sites in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Coastal defense sites in the United States to Category:Military facilities of the United States in the United States
Nominator's rationale: Merge or just delete. I'm not convinced of the need for this category based on the contents. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:25, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Coastal defense sites

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The result of the discussion was: Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 February 1. -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Coastal defense sites (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Unneeded extra navigation level for one category with two articles.Vegaswikian (talk) 02:19, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Defunct companies based in Adams County, Pennsylvania

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:20, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Defunct companies based in Adams County, Pennsylvania to Category:Defunct companies based in Pennsylvania
Nominator's rationale: Merge. No need at that time since there are only two members and the parent category is not excessively large. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Base Realignment and Closure

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Base Realignment and Closure (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. The main article, one of two entries, is ample for navigation. This is related to the other nominations of late. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cold War military alliances

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cold War military alliances (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Two entry category where one member may not be generally considered an alliance. Again, part of the long series of nominations. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:40, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Aftermath of the Cold War

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Aftermath of the Cold War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single member subjective inclusion criteria category. Yes, part of the series being nominated. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:36, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kentucky events

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge, after manually removing Category:Festivals in Kentucky, which is already part of Category:Festivals in the United States. -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:00, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Kentucky events (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Over categorization. If approved, Category:Events in Louisville, Kentucky‎ should be re-parented to Category:Events in the United States. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:34, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Events in Pennsylvania

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The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Events in Pennsylvania to Category:Events in the United States
Nominator's rationale: Merge. More over cat. The parent category is not so full that we need to break these out by state at this time. If kept, the sorting of this needs looking at. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:28, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tourism regions of Pennsylvania

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Tourism regions of Pennsylvania to Category:Tourism in Pennsylvania
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Maybe if we had a definition of these regions, but then we would have an article that met the need for navigation. In any case, only one of these is really a region. So merge and if there is a real need in the future we can recreate. If kept, the sort key needs cleaning up, comment not withstanding. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Turnpikes in Pennsylvania

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Turnpikes in Pennsylvania to Category:Toll roads in Pennsylvania
Nominator's rationale: Merge or Delete. Another one in a series of over categorization for Pennsylvania. Contains one article and one redirect. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:18, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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