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Category:2012 phenomenon theorists

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:33, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is a category Category:2012 phenomenon that can incorporate all of these biographies. The problem with this category's name is that it elevates them to "theorists", an ambiguous if not misleading monicker, when most are only pseudoscientists and/or spiritualists. jps (talk) 22:52, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Via Francigena

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:37, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. This is basically a follow up from this discussion which was closed as no consensus since there was a mix of trails, some of which probably should be deleted and others kept. So I'm sorting through that list to see which ones merit a separate deletion discussion. Again the question here is, are the places along the trail defined by the trail? This name appears to apply to both an ancient road as well as a pilgrimage route. Based on the contents of the category, it would appear that this is intended for the pilgrimage route. I don't see the places listed as being defined by being on this pilgrimage route. The main article has a list of the original way points from one direction of the first pilgrimage along this route which does a better job of explaining the various points and the finer details then a category could. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:56, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This trail is not a permanent WP:DEFINING characteristic of the articles currently in the category (apart from the eponymous article which is already in the parent categories). DexDor (talk) 04:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- This is not even a recognised trail: it is almost certainly largely a series of roads. In view of the distance, I am not convinced that there was only a single road from London (or Canterbury) to Rome. I doubt there are many features (e.g. abbeys or shrines) that were specifically related to this pilgrimage, rather than just happening to be on the route. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:37, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1960 establishments in the Federation of Malaya

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:38, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category Tim! (talk) 19:47, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:President of Ethiopia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:39, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We have categories for both "President of Ethiopia" (which is also an article, describing the office) and "Presidents of Ethiopia". The former category is more populous, but I believe the latter has the correct name. In any case we don't need both categories. Gyrofrog (talk) 17:36, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Richford, Vermont

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The result of the discussion was: merge. ((NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small community with just 4 entries. ...William 17:22, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Eurovision Song Contest presenters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:49, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Overcategorization of performer by performance. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 15:28, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American Horror Story (season 1) episodes

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:27, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the main article. Note: I created this category. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:28, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chemical compounds found in Actinobacteria

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:25, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Previous discussions (2013 Aug 15, 2013 Sep 1 & 2013 Sep 21) have shown that such categories are non-defining. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:57, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Honorary Fellows of the Australian Institute of Building

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:41, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategozization per WP:OC#AWARD. People like Prince Philip do not need to be in more categories. Note: This category is currently a cross between a list article and a category. This could be listified. Some examples of deletions of similar categories are Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_April_22#Category:Honorary_Fellows_of_The_Institute_of_IT_Professionals and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_August_8#Category:Honorary_members_of_the_Malaysian_Nature_Society. DexDor (talk) 04:31, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Venues of the 2011 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:42, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: That a stadium etc was used as a venue in a particular festival is not a permanent WP:DEFINING characteristic of that stadium. For info: There is a list at 2011_European_Youth_Summer_Olympic_Festival#Venues. DexDor (talk) 04:19, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Junior Eurovision Song Contest presenters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:26, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Clear example of WP:OC#PERF. Could be listified (e.g. to Junior Eurovision Song Contest). DexDor (talk) 04:17, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • You may have misinterpreted my meaning of "justice", it wasn't justice as in law, it was justice as in justification, justifying. Tagging under Category:Eurovision Song Contest wouldn't contravene WP:PERF either, the articles currently tagged under the above nominated deletion are personalities who have presented a major event (Eurovision Song Contest) watched by over 120 million worldwide, so to place them under the category for which they have had dealings with would not be going against WP:PERF. Or at least that is my opinion anyway, something to which I am entitled to. Wesley Mᴥuse 02:13, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Placing presenters in the general category would contravene PERF. The rule is to not categorize individual performers in conjunction with that in which they performed. Just as for example Ricardo Montalban is not under PERF properly categorized in Category:Star Trek actors, he is not properly categorized under Category:Star Trek either. Putting the presenters directly in the contest category would violate PERF in exactly the way categorizing Montalban directly in the show category would. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 09:14, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Using Caterogy:Junior Eurovision Song Contest would not be in violation of PERF though. The category itself is not solely to categorise contest articles only. The category name was given as an all-in-one category name (only because project members couldn't reach a compromise on other proposals at the time). Articles such as artists that performed in a contest, their songs, host cities, articles such as United Kingdom in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest, and many more have all been placed under a universal category title Category:Junior Eurovision Song Contest. This is to highlight the subject in question is in relation to Junior Eurovision Song Contest in general and not in the way of highlighting performer by performance. Both Eurovision and Junior Eurovision are more than just a show, they are an entity and a brand within their own right, as outlined by the European Broadcasting Union. This is when Ignore all rules would apply, as placing articles under a generalised category fulfils the guidelines set out at Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization (and I'm not trying to imply the nominated category should stay). Besides, WP:PERF doesn't mention anything about violations, WP:PERF is in regards to server performances, not BLP performances. Wesley Mᴥuse 15:20, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • WP:AGF John, I asked Armburst a question, to which I got a reply, and as the editor pointed something out I thought it would only be polite to explain why they found more in one category and hardly any in the other. Wesley Mᴥuse 02:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Living paths!

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:42, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: With the current title (and contents and lack of parent categories) it's very unclear what the category is for - possibly it's intended to be a WikiProject category. DexDor (talk) 04:12, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is a long term project (Living Paths Project), which will collate all the articles created as a result of the project into one category; this way we will be able to keep monitor the achievments. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:52, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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