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December 5

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Category:WikiProject Seduction

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:07, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: no longer required after the WikiProject was deleted at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Seduction. JohnCD (talk) 22:21, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The subcats (which contain no pages) are now all CSD-tagged - C1/G6/G8 (incidentally, it looks like there's a bug in Twinkle when there's an explanation given for G6 and G8).DexDor (talk) 17:37, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The subcats have now all being deleted leaving Category:WikiProject Seduction empty. Perhaps some admin coming across this will give it the coup de grâce. DexDor (talk) 20:24, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedia unused portal templates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:09, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This empty category has no inlinks - which indicates that it's not being used as part of any process. If a portal template is found to be unused then either take it to TFD or leave it be; there's no need to put such a template in a category like this. Note: This is the only category named "Wikipedia unu..." in en wp. DexDor (talk) 21:17, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:28, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category (which currently contains 5 pages - I've just removed several that weren't even dab pages) is redundant to the database reports (e.g. this[1]) that editors (especially the members of WP:DPL) use to fix inlinks to dab pages. Note: There's no inlinks to this category from WP:DPL etc. (Note: If not deleted then this category should be moved to a lower level parent category.) DexDor (talk) 20:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Motorsport venues in Baku

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:11, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, as there's only one motorsport venue with an article in Azerbaijan, let alone Baku; this category is really not needed. QueenCake (talk) 20:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Grand Theft Auto V screenshots

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) ssт✈(discuss) 07:38, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. As each category contains non-free media, they will never grow large due to minimal usage criteria. It is more logical to merge these small categories into a single media category for the series. The1337gamer (talk) 18:03, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Baltimore Claws players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) ssт✈(discuss) 08:12, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per all basketball wikiprojects, team categories are applied to players once he subject appears in a regular-season or playoff game for that franchise. The Baltimore Claws were a franchise in the now-defunct American Basketball Association, but they folded prior to the start of the ABA season. Therefore, no player has ever appeared in an official game for the franchise. Propose deletion on these grounds. Rikster2 (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dishes created from scraps

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:01, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Apart from the ambiguous term 'scraps' (is it leftovers, organic discards, etc.), this category is generally not a good idea. See Category:Prepared foods by main ingredient for current prepared foods hierarchy. Mindmatrix 16:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There were three articles that I removed from these categories:
The same files (and also Spaghetti alla puttanesca (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)) were removed by Berean Hunter (talk · contribs) earlier that day. Mindmatrix 13:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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American people of Huguenot descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:07, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Category:American people of Huguenot descent.
  • Nominator's rationale These American people of x descent essentially stand as near ethnic categories. We have them because people in the United States identify with their German, Dutch, Polish or Italian ancestry in clear ways, even though it is often not pervasive enough to count as an ethnicity. In fact this form of name was adopted more for precision than anything else, the previous names were confusing since Itlaina-American people was not 100%clear if it was Italians in the United States or Americans in Italy. The problem is that Huguenots ceased to be a clear religious or ethnic group in the United States before there was a United States. In the vast majority of cases this is citing a trivial fact of one ancestor several generations back, normally so far back that the last ancestor who thought of themselves as a Huguenot died before the first ancestor the subject knew was born. This ends up being a case of genealogical trivia that has no definition of anything related to the person. For the same reason we should not upmerge to the French ancestry categories because for most of these people it is a trivial non-defining fact, for some of them never know to the subject themself.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:58, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- I agree that this may go too far back to be useful. However, I am not convinced that they merged into the majority quite as soon as you are suggesting. There are still one or two churches in London for a Huguenot community. Some one changed all the dual nationality categories to "Boo people of Foo descent", except for American ones which he may have considered too complicated to tackle. However that is the form to be preferred even in American cases. For someone living in 20th-century America, having a Hugenuot ancestor would be genealogical trivia. However for an American man of 1790, who had emigrated in 1760 and whose father was a Huguenot silk weaver in the East End of London, worshipping in a French Church, it might be highly relevant. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:58, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, this is not a category about those in England. The issues there are different. I read somewhere, I can't remember where, where the Hugenots were cited as the quitessential example of a group that merged into the American main-steam and ceased to exist. John Jay, whose father was a Hugenot, insisted on writing of an ethnically homogenized America.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, also considering that the vast majority of biographies in this category contains 19th- and 20th-century people. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:13, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:58, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Christmas and winter holiday parades

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Christmas and holiday season parades. Based on the current members, no split seems necessary. (Disclosure: I just substituted a couple of members, using a redirect and a more specific article for the parades.) – Fayenatic London 18:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: For a significant number of countries, ie those in the Southern Hemisphere, putting "Christmas" and "winter" in the same category is nonsensical. Mitch Ames (talk) 05:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively "Christmas and holiday season parades", which is consistent with Christmas and holiday season. Mitch Ames (talk) 05:17, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Are there Hanukkah parades? If so, I'd imagine that they'd be insulted to be joined to Christmas. Many non Christians participate in Thanksgiving parades; they too might be insulted to be joined to Christmas. Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:01, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If Thanksgiving has nothing to do with Christmas, why would we want them to be in the same category? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:01, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Splitting Category:Christmas and winter holiday parades into anything and Category:Parades is wrong. Category:Christmas and winter holiday parades or its replacement(s) should be a subcategory of Category:Parades. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:53, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm going to agree and change my mind, but we should move Santa Claus parade. As for my suggestion to split to parades, I just mean that any parade that isn't a Christmas parade shouldn't be in the same category. --JFH (talk) 14:07, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Commment I agree entirely that Category:Christmas and winter holiday parades is nonsensical for half of the planet, but I think the category system provides us with a solution. Since we already have Category:Parades with subcats Category:Parades by city etc, let's create a subcat Category:Parades by theme and then from that we can create subcats Category:Christmas parades, Category:Winter parades, Category:Thansgiving parades etc which can also be subcats of Category:Christmas, Category:Winter, Category:Thanksgiving etc as appropriate. Then if you have a parade that is celebrating the winterness of your local Christmas, you can stick it in both Category:Christmas parades and Category:Winter parades. Tip: "and" in a category name is often an indicator that the category may not be well-designed. Kerry (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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