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Category:ERP software companies in South Africa

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 11:08, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unclear why this cat was created. The companies in it are not based in SA (some pages do not even mention SA) and it's not like there are existing "ERP software companies in country XYZ" cats, even for countries like the USA with many such companies. Categories aren't really my thing so perhaps I'm missing something. Pinkbeast (talk) 20:29, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:CRM software companies in South Africa

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 11:08, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unclear why this cat was created. The companies in it are not based in SA (some pages do not even mention SA) and it's not like there are existing "CRM software companies in country XYZ" cats, even for countries like the USA with many such companies. Categories aren't really my thing so perhaps I'm missing something. Pinkbeast (talk) 20:28, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Housing struggles

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Housing protests. ℯxplicit 04:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, 'struggles' is a too vague concept. There is no need to merge since all five articles are in the tree of Category:Housing by country already. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People associated with Pluto

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 15:35, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCASSOC, these people do not have much in common with each other beyond the fact that most of them are astronomers. It should be sufficient to mention them in the Pluto article. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Animals of Central America

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 09:54, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The two categories have the same scope and "Fauna of <region>" is the usual format in wp for such categories. DexDor (talk) 06:02, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, although the Fauna article appears to be about the term "fauna". Category:Organisms / Category:Biota is another similar case. DexDor (talk) 12:20, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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1915 in German South West Africa

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename and merge as nominated. ℯxplicit 04:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: German South West Africa was invaded in 1914. Category:1915 in German South West Africa contains the final battles; although the last German commander only capitulated in July 1915, it will be helpful and sufficiently accurate to use "South West Africa" from 1915 onwards. The disestablishments category contains only the former territory and its currency. – Fayenatic London 14:52, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as to 1910s/1915 items. However German South West Africa only existed as a polity from 1884 to 1915, though not formally abolished until 1919. It then became a Mandate territory, governed by South Africa, and then Namibia. We do not therefore need century GSWA categories (2 members) or decade categories (4 members). Where polities have changed name, the best solution is to parent them to the present polity. The parent should thus be ones related to Namibia. It is exactly the same place. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:18, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 04:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Amorium

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep for now, as there is no consensus below to do away with the category, although some editors were open to possible mergers. It might be worth re-nominating this after a suitable interval, for possible merger to Category:Amorium and Category:Byzantine Anatolians. For the record, the only current members are Blaise of Amorion and Michael II; Constantine V was removed during the discussion for the reasons stated below. – Fayenatic London 11:15, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Typical WP:SMALLCAT. Only a handful of people are known to have come from the city. Constantine ✍ 11:27, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, I can't imagine many more biographies will be added here, the city flourished for a too short period in a too distant past and it has never been a country capital. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Probably keep -- unless someone can suggest a suitable merge target. Deletion is liable to leave articles orphaned. I know that it is too small. We regularly merge small places in America to their county. Is something similar an option here? Peterkingiron (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Except that the category is for "People from Amorium", i.e., born in the city. People associated with a city but not born there should be categorized at Category:City X or even Category:History of City X. BTW, discretion should be exercised with over-categorizing: someone using a city as a base in a single year, or commanding a unit there, is not sufficient grounds for putting him/her in the respective category; there needs to be a strong link between person and city, that makes the latter an integral part of the given subject, such as being its longtime governor, bishop, having lived most of one's life there, etc. Constantine ✍ 14:23, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Most of our "city from" categories are simply recording residence in a city, not place of birth. See for example Category:People from Chicago.Dimadick (talk) 14:44, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to see some data to support the "most of" claim. My impression is quite the contrary, and at any rate categorization always implies, as can be seen in the Chicago example as well, being closely associated with a the category topic. Simply staying there briefly, or having a parent or grandparent from there, is not enough, per WP:NON-DEFINING. Constantine ✍ 14:48, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 04:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Free Linux distributions

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: relisted with alternative at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 September 11#Category:Free Linux distributions. – Fayenatic London 11:25, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Free" is ambiguous as most Linux distributions are free of charge, there is only one subcategory: Free software only Linux distributions and that being more specific, this category obviously isn't needed. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:56, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 04:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The sub-cat is already in the other parent, Category:Free software only operating systems. I also note that by Marcocapelle's rationale, that parent should be nominated for merger to its sole parent Category:Free software operating systems as it has no other content. If that is to happen, then do we need to keep the sub-cat Free software only Linux distributions, or should that be merged to the nominated category instead? – Fayenatic London 11:07, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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