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Category:Archaeological museums in England by city

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Archaeological museums in England and also merge the subcategories as proposed by Nederlandse Leeuw. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:58, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 branch. Only topical (i.e. archeological) category in Category:Museums in England by city Estopedist1 (talk) 17:37, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic F.C.

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:55, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The club changed its name to Bonnyrigg Rose F.C. in 2022. Grutness...wha? 17:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Maxwell, California

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:55, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT (1 article). User:Namiba 16:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Arabs and Arab people

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:18, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to – re-opened and still ongoing – Category:Arab CfD. Marcocapelle, Fayenatic london and I discovered that there were several issues with this category tree (see the Category:Arab CfD for details). Fayenatic convinced me that the proposed renamings above (plus some re-parentings and (better) category descriptionswhere needed) are the simplest way to solve these issues, while preserving the page histories and without having to recategorise / purge all the contents. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:African American women educators

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:56, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2C Category:African-American women and Category:African-American educators are both hyphenated Mason (talk) 13:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support: The hyphen is consistent across article and category naming conventions. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Manuscripts by collection

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 23#Category:Manuscripts by collection

Category:Wikipedia essays about controversial topics

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:02, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Ambiguous, ill defined category that is not useful for navigation created by an editor who has since been indeffed for promoting racist pseudoscidence and race based sexualisation. As it stands this category contains a smattering of fairly random essays about women, racism and wikipedia's coverage of controversial topics. I see several problems here:
  1. The category is completely subjective. Why is Wikipedia:Writing about women in this category? It's a completely reasonable piece of advice on how to apply the manual of style. Why is Wikipedia:Gender bias and editing on Wikipedia here?
  2. The category is impossibly board. On this site everything from how articles should be capitalised to what style of quotation marks should be used to if IPs should be allowed to edit to how we format citations has been controversial at some point. Most essays are written to express an opinion, suggesting that some disagreement or opposing view should exist.
  3. The category is not a useful way to navigate. Someone reading about why Nazis should be banned is unlikely to find an essay on how to format articles about women to be a natural follow-up.

I therefore propose that this is deleted. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 10:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

.Delete Created by a now blocked user to highlight their now deleted racist essay. It was populated with everything they disagreed with, rather than actually being an objective set -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 12:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you are correct. I should've read nom's rationale more carefully; I didn't realise the category was created with what appear to be disruptive intentions.... I'm not sure anymore if the category can be re-purposed, but maybe we should first WP:TNT this, and perhaps start over (under a new name) if a category like this can be created for a legitimate purpose. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:25, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah if something like this is to be created it should be started from scratch. Maybe a category for essay about Wikipedia:Contentious topics, as that has a defined scope not just one editors opinion -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 15:55, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:51, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and ActivelyDisinterested, this was created disruptively and is vaguely defined as it stands (it now only has one article). There may be value in organizing project space writing about editing in CTOP areas, but this category wasn't doing that. Dylnuge (Talk • Edits) 21:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of governors

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of governors and heads of sub-national entities. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:55, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, the difference in intention between this category and its parent category is unclear. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Viceregal consorts

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Spouses of governors. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:56, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per WP:C2C, sibling categories are named "governors" or "governors and heads of sub-national entities". Alternatively rename to Category:Consorts of governors and heads of sub-national entities Category:Spouses of governors and heads of sub-national entities. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the proposal as it stands, though some change in name would be desired. The category also includes subcats for spouses of Governors-General (Australia and New Zealand) and Viceroys (India). As such "Foo of Governors" is overly restrictive. It's also worth noting that these are colonial and post-colonial governors of national entities, so the "sub-national entity" description is inaccurate. Grutness...wha? 17:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    We already agreed above that all viceroys are governors. I can add that a governor-general is simply a type of governor. There's nothing incorrect about the current proposal. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jibanananda Das Award

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:56, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD, WP:NONDEFINING
The Jibanananda Das Award is an award for translating poetry from a native Indian languages to English and this award is for the people who received it. The award must not be very defining since a majority of these articles don't so much as mention it. The category contents are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:48, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Prix Roger Caillois recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. No listification is needed here because such a list already exists. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:57, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEFINING
The Roger Caillois Prize is a French literary award that has three categories: French-speaking authors, Latin American authors, and Essayists. A majority of the biography articles make no reference to the award at all so it doesn't seem remotely defining. This is one of many French literary award categories created in late 2016/early 2017. The contents are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:48, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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