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Archelaus I of Macedon

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#Archelaus I of Macedon

Category:Jewish refugees in Asia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge for now. We don't *really* have sufficient content to diffuse by continent. Mason (talk) 20:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Bisexual politicians by nationality

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#Bisexual politicians by nationality

Template:Barelvi-stub

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:42, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Stub template of unclear necessity. It's used on just two articles, neither of which need it as they're not actually short enough to warrant being tagged as stubs at all -- and while the template itself is a couple of months old, within the past couple of days somebody attempted to make it sort its entries into a dedicated "Barelvi stubs" category that doesn't exist, which I had to revert because redlinked categories are forbidden (meaning I couldn't just leave it there) but stub categories can't be created for just two pages, and require a minimum of 60. So for all of those reasons, it's unclear whether even the template is necessary. Bearcat (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Armenian immigration to Uruguay

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The result of the discussion was: rename/merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: better fits the content, as well as sibling categories. These categories are in fact not just about migration but also diaspora including subsequent generations, their culture etc. Follow-up to WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 1 § Category:Swedish migration to North America. Place Clichy (talk) 16:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Makes sense. --Fadesga (talk) 16:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films with screenplays by Ian Briggs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: TV writer, has not written any films. --woodensuperman 16:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hispanic Belizean

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A gathering of quite unrelated content. Follow-up to WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 2 § Category:South African people of Hispanic descent. Place Clichy (talk) 15:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Association football penalty shoot-outs

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#Category:Association football penalty shoot-outs

Category:Syrian Turkmen

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A collective name in the plural is better than an adjective to define this ethnic group. Note that, like in Iraq, Turkmen here refers to people with Turkish roots, not the Turkmens of Turkmenistan. Place Clichy (talk) 15:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:32, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ulster Scottish

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A collective name in the plural is better than an adjective to define this ethnic group. Place Clichy (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Egyptian cricketers

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#Category:Egyptian cricketers

Category:Lists of tallest buildings in Southeast Asia

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has a single category in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1880s initial public offerings

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 12:52, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support upmerges as creator. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Former royal residences in Myanmar

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Royal residences in Myanmar. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:45, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one page in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 12:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Treasure troves in South Korea

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One page in category toobigtokale (talk) 12:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support in principle, but should be merged to History of Korea Mason (talk) 12:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Afro-Indigenous

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A collective name in the plural is better than an adjective to define this ethnic group. Place Clichy (talk) 10:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:46, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:50, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women sports commentators

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#Category:Women sports commentators

Category:American horse racing commentators

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American horse racing announcers. Of course, this does not preclude a discussion on renaming the merge target. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category using different term but serves the same purpose. Merge newer one with the older one. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but I think we should leave a redirect. Mason (talk) 12:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with redirect. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:33, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sports broadcasters

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The result of the discussion was: merge leaving a redirect. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a duplicate category which uses a different term and, IMO, doesn't help in navigation. There is just about no difference between a sports "broadcaster", "announcer", and "commentator" except that countries prefer one term over the other AND that the term used differs by sport. I wouldn't create three different categories for what is basically the same job. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but I think we should leave a redirect. Mason (talk) 12:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:18th-century Dutch political philosophers

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. We don't need to diffuse at the intersection of century + nationality + type of philosopher. (there's not even a main intersection of Category:17th-century political philosophers) Mason (talk) 06:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tower Theater

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous parent category for a set of albums already appropriately categorized by the venue. If there is consensus to keep, it should be moved to Category:Tower Theater (Pennsylvania). StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 03:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, redundant category layer with only a main article and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There is no redundancy and no existing geographic or other categorization for these many popular live albums recorded at this historic venue, only a third or so of which have been placed in the category to date. See Category:Albums recorded at the Hammersmith Apollo for a similar existing category. Keystone18 (talk) 00:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Keystone18: Those albums are in Category:Albums recorded at the Tower Theater (Pennsylvania), which has not been nominated for deletion. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hazbin Hotel demons

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The result of the discussion was: merge (already deleted as WP:G5). (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Seems unnecessary and overly WP:NARROW to only allow demon characters in here. (Oinkers42) (talk) 03:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Capital Cup (soccer)

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:34, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the main article. User:Namiba 02:58, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Non-free The New Yorker magazine covers

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:34, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are not-free images which we are claiming fair use protection. Fair use means using the image as conservatively as possible, and they must be a topic of discussion (or serve an identification role). We cannot use the cover of "Dark Side of the Moon" to illustrate the article Prism, etc. Making them easily accessible for people to browse them out of context is beyond our claim of fair use. Categories and lists are similar in many ways. Would we have an illustrated article "List of non-free New Yorker Covers"?

Herostratus (talk) 02:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. We can just add a No gallery template. The purpose of categories is to help navigation and to facilitate maintenance. Mason (talk) 06:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, but it already has the appropriate magic word. But wait, I see the issue. If the cover has its own article then it is obviously discussed in context and categorization in the article page (not the file page itself) is OK I would think. You're not directing the reader to a page where a copyrighted image is not discussed. If the image does not have its own article but is used and discussed in article X, then there should be a redirect page directing to the appropriate section of article X, and the category should be added to the redirect page (only). If there doesn't exist an article where the image is discussed (but is shown), we shouldn't be hosting that image.
Possibly you could put the discussion/exposition in the "other info" field of the image file page itself, altho I'm skeptical that this would be OK.
I'm skeptical that any non-free image files should be put into nonhidden categories. Perhaps hidden categories could be added to the image, for maintenance. There may be exceptions, IDK.
Complicated. Probably this is something that should be taken up with the copyright people on the copyright talk page. So I guess it'd be OK (but not really necessary) if you close this request and I could go there.
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Category:Songs from films

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The result of the discussion was: duplicate. (non-admin closure) QueenofHearts 21:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The target category (Category:Songs written for films) has a very different scope, to the point that I think this redirect is problematic. Namely, people might reasonably put a song in this category because it was in some film at one point, only for it to be recategorized as if it was written for the film. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Australian Thelemites

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fuels phase-out

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is unhelpful for navigation with only a single category in it Mason (talk) 02:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fuel subsidies

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 03:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now, this category is unhelpful for navigation. This was opposed at speedy for not being entirely eponymous. @Ymblanter: Mason (talk) 02:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Local elections in Tanzania

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#Category:Local elections in Tanzania

Category:Frederick Lions football players

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:28, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category. Let'srun (talk) 03:08, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hence the dual merge to Category:Frederick Lions athletes. If a few more more relevant biography articles are created to avoid WP:NARROWCAT, by all means recreate this category since it will then start serving a navigational function. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dual merge per above. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs from films

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The target category (Category:Songs written for films) has a very different scope, to the point that I think this redirect is problematic. Namely, people might reasonably put a song in this category because it was in some film at one point, only for it to be recategorized as if it was written for the film. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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